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ImperialD

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Well, it is an alpha (like most alphas are used for testing and not for public) after all...maybe people should wait for the beta with most of the bugs fixed at least before playing.
yeah i do kinda jump the gun when these updates come out ... just love these vn's ya know :giggle:
 

Ragnar

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Mason and Gabby are at the bottom of the totem pole for me but the update is great, prolly the biggest update to date.
We have plenty of content with the main girls of the update plus several interactions with others.
Some say that introducing more people to the game is a bad idea but I don't think so. This is not a vn about a school boy and his steplandladies. There is a bigger picture to cover so you need more npcs. We have to keep in mind that npcs don't need the same screen time as main love interests. Like the girl working in The posh pit, she can be there just to mess with Viola and show you how shitty people are. She doesn't need sex scenes, proper routes or whatever, she's a npc in a bigger world than your landlady home.
 
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Jah-Ith-Ber

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I enjoyed this update a lot.

It's nice to see some of these branching stories starting to collapse on each other. Last update the whole Risa thing was super interesting but I was feeling like "oh great here's another storyline we get 50 renders about every 5 months" but already starting to see how her storyline is converging with Ashe & Nicki (and probably Gabby with the drugs/her dad) and of course the checkovs gun of Guy/Nicki saying his weakness are those he loves and then Cassie just shows up. Hopefully with less individual branches we will get some more progress I can't wait to see how it goes.

It was really nice to see another perspective of Viola and how even Guy misjudged her based on her accent. Her frank acceptance of someone's position in life when they are desperate for money reminded me of the scene with Peper where after Guy rapes her she just asks him for money like... wow that feels more dark than screaming/crying because it just speaks to the grim acceptance of a dark and shitty society. Still could never do a dark path with Viola must protect (also noticed Neon has Viola as his signature is she your favorite also :geek: )

The biggest flaw I notice in this VN is the timeline seems excessively short. Like this entire update was one day? I was shocked when Guy said at the end it was the same day still as when he was with Risa last update like it felt like a week. I've always felt this way about the intro also. The more we hear about all these amazing things Guy has already done (now also saving that Optho office historic building?) in the period of just 6 months including doing photography apprentice traveling to Brazil it's just like a lot a lot. Time skip should've been at least 1 year maybe 18 months and the current day events should be spaced more. How is Gabby supposed to have time to process her complex emotions towards guy over the course of like a day and a half?
 
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So... going through the early chapters again there appears to be quite a bit of foreshadowing going on.
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Also, anyone else have an opinion on the theory
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Taking the time to read and process this novel just reaffirms why it's so great. Also, now I'm on edge and try to see a meaning in every turn of phrase. Kudos Neon, great storywriting!
 
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So I followed the walkthrough and added the taboo content patch but the option to do it still doesnt appear. Anyone know what might be the issue?
I dunno what the walkthrough says but from what I remember to unlock the taboo content, besides installing the patch, you have to be actually evil in the beginning with Nikki. Not just like mean and manipulative but you have to use violence or actual rape. Otherwise you want get any of the taboo options later.
 

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oki see why nicki is disliked by some and with good reason... going from cool workfriend you felt you could shoot the shit to being asked by her BF to be an escort for you and ACCEPTING to get out of debt.... the context of it timing and so on is why even i felt like telling her to F off... if its a good friend that stayed close after the job and such and said she was in shit yes sure way.. but due to her BF and that she heard you got cash..it feels... ya
I am going to bring up one thing about Nikki that very few seem to bring up. She didn't ditch Guy. Guy ditched her. He got his money and pulled a Houdini. I think that this is going to be touched on more in the rewrite of CH1 but she did try to reach out to Guy after he left the store and he felt like he needed to keep her at a distance to keep her uniformed of his wealth. This drove a wedge into their friendship. Her keeping close to Guy was not an option, mostly due to how he acted. Not too many consider that in light of what happens after Guy helps her and she pulls a vanishing act of her own, because it is much easier to focus on how she bailed.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I believe that Nikki not only succumbed to pressure from Brent but that the way Guy was acting toward her in the months that he was hiding his wealth had a role to play as well. She wanted her friend back more than she wanted the money, I think. She has a people-pleasing personality and she wanted to find a way to make everyone happy. This is the road to hell for most people pleasers. You can't make everybody happy, especially two guys who are playing tug of war with you. You have to choose, and not choosing Nikki was faced with progressively worse choices.
 

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I am going to bring up one thing about Nikki that very few seem to bring up. She didn't ditch Guy. Guy ditched her. He got his money and pulled a Houdini. I think that this is going to be touched on more in the rewrite of CH1 but she did try to reach out to Guy after he left the store and he felt like he needed to keep her at a distance to keep her uniformed of his wealth. This drove a wedge into their friendship. Her keeping close to Guy was not an option, mostly due to how he acted. Not too many consider that in light of what happens after Guy helps her and she pulls a vanishing act of her own, because it is much easier to focus on how she bailed.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I believe that Nikki not only succumbed to pressure from Brent but that the way Guy was acting toward her in the months that he was hiding his wealth had a role to play as well. She wanted her friend back more than she wanted the money, I think. She has a people-pleasing personality and she wanted to find a way to make everyone happy. This is the road to hell for most people pleasers. You can't make everybody happy, especially two guys who are playing tug of war with you. You have to choose, and not choosing Nikki was faced with progressively worse choices.
That's only on the dark path. If you're on the light path, she has no reason to leave as it's possible for her to get the money without having sex with the mc if I recall and she and guy are still on good terms.
 
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So... going through the early chapters again there appears to be quite a bit of foreshadowing going on.
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Taking the time to read and process this novel just reaffirms why it's so great. Also, now I'm on edge and try to see a meaning in every turn of phrase. Kudos Neon, great storywriting!
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NewTricks

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That's only on the dark path. If you're on the light path, she has no reason to leave as it's possible for her to get the money without having sex with the mc if I recall and she and guy are still on good terms.
I disagree. No matter how Nikki gets the money she still gets screwed over by Brent and loses her phone to him. Thus, she never gets any of Guy's messages or calls. Even if he gave her the money with no strings attached she doesn't feel like she can show her face to him. In fact, the more kind Guy is the worse she feels for losing the money again. So by not choosing she was faced with her next worse decision. Then a series of even worse decisions to make. Pretty much until she only had one left.
 
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