Rintal

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Grown men can't be insecure around women?
Of course they can. But I’m not talking about just grown men, but about mature men. And not just about insecurity, but about the friend zone. And yes, there are different forms of extremes, but I'm talking about the most common things.
 

Uriel ☁

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Wait the game is getting rebooted?
Only Chapter 1.

Ch1 art was commisioned and not done by Neon, you can easily tell it's quite different. Nicki's model is also different from the one in the following chapters. Ch1 was planned to be a stand-alone game, but has since evolved in a full and much bigger game.

Neon also complained a lot about having coded Ch1 wrong and many player choices weren't saved properly and that's biting him in the ass now.

He also plans of expanding the intro to show more important details and adding more paths for Nicki in Ch1 (like lending her the money without having sex with her) and different consequences in the following chapters depending on how you handled her.
 

GokutheG

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I'm wondering if the remake of chapter 1 will change the MC's one sided love for Nicki. I'm thinking just showing that they're best friends and that he feels that her boyfriend doesn't treat her well is a good point to start their relationship for the story and it could also tie into him giving her the money without anything in return.
 
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Old Grumpy Wolf

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I'm wondering if the remake of chapter 1 will change the MC's one sided love for Nicki. I'm thinking just showing that they're best friends and that he feels that her boyfriend doesn't treat her well is a good point to start their relationship for the story and it could also tie into him giving her the money without anything in return.
It's been talked about the dev making it to where we can get on her friend path in the rework, but not sure if that will happen. I can only hope.
 

Uriel ☁

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I'm wondering if the remake of chapter 1 will change the MC's one sided love for Nicki. I'm thinking just showing that they're best friends and that he feels that her boyfriend doesn't treat her well is a good point to start their relationship for the story and it could also tie into him giving her the money without anything in return.
Yes, Neon said the new intro will show better their friendship before MC becomes a millionaire.
 

Dessolos

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I just cant wait for the rework so I can give her money with no strings attached since I wish I could of gave her the money without having sex with her as it makes her seem like a prostitute and that isnt something a real friend would do. Even if they do have a sexual desire for their friend.
 

Bombmaster

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I just cant wait for the rework so I can give her money with no strings attached since I wish I could of gave her the money without having sex with her as it makes her seem like a prostitute and that isnt something a real friend would do. Even if they do have a sexual desire for their friend.
willing to try this wholesome path to navigate how branching into love path is going foward. Also
if Nicki is going to Idolize Mc futher into Friends path, I loved how she feels inadequate of MC love after her mistakes, and would like to explore a submission esque Nicki without dark themes, just good misguided affection, Opening a cuckqueen scenario.
A man can dream right.
 

Joshy92

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I will also be giving Nicki the money without sleeping with her in the chapter one reboot
I will do whatever I can to help her and make her happy
 
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Dessolos

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Speaking of the rework I forgot is it planned to be the next update or the one after?
 

soprano31

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Speaking of the rework I forgot is it planned to be the next update or the one after?
I try to avoid setting hard deadlines, because I invariably miss them. We'll get at least one more chapter before the end of the year, though, followed by the Chapter One rework. And I'm going to try to do another holiday special, with a limited number of renders.
 

PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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Of course they can. But I’m not talking about just grown men, but about mature men. And not just about insecurity, but about the friend zone. And yes, there are different forms of extremes, but I'm talking about the most common things.
Well, if 'mature' men can't get friend-zoned, then they sure as hell can't jerk off to 3d models on a virtual porn forum. Or watch cartoons. Or read comic books. Or play video games. Or buy toys figurines to display. I guess I don't get your logic, it just sounds like another version of that whole 'alpha beta' 'real men do x, not y, so I guess you're not a real man' shtick. But this obviously isn't going to go anywhere except an endless off-topic back and forth, so... agree to disagree, I guess :cool:

Anyways, just to get back to the game, since Neon mentioned Bonnie, I'm really curious now how long it'll be until we get to see her content. It'll probably be a very long time, since Neon said he wants to get out a good amount of scenes for primary LIs first. But damn, it sounds really fucking hot when it does come out...

I'm also curious about that twerp's (Gabby's and Brit's ex-bf) hot little helper. I've been excited about her, but she's another one that'll probably be quite a long time before we see content with her :cry: Brit's mom, too. If only I could clone Neon for faster content, I would :LOL:
 

PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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willing to try this wholesome path to navigate how branching into love path is going foward. Also
if Nicki is going to Idolize Mc futher into Friends path, I loved how she feels inadequate of MC love after her mistakes, and would like to explore a submission esque Nicki without dark themes, just good misguided affection, Opening a cuckqueen scenario.
A man can dream right.
If you're in the dark path enjoyer club, don't forget that even the wholesome romance and friend routes are opportunities to hop onto alternative versions of the dark/corruption routes :devilish:

For example, on Ashe's most recent date, you can be her perfect prince charming up to that point, and then you can give her the shock of her life by drugging and graping her (need to find the drugs in the library restroom first from an earlier chp)... it's a different perspective than the pure dark route and has its own very interesting querks. Or, if you want to be less extreme, you can also just be a toxic asshole to her and manipulate her along the way as well.

There's soooo many possibilities that people are forgetting here I think because they're used to playing other less complex games. No route is really very permanent unless you want it to be (within reason, ofc), at least for now anyways.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if at least one dark route for one character can lead to a romance route over an extended period of good boy behavior from MC. Even for just one character, that would be morbidly fascinating to watch from a character perspective!
 

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If you're in the dark path enjoyer club, don't forget that even the wholesome romance and friend routes are opportunities to hop onto alternative versions of the dark/corruption routes :devilish:

For example, on Ashe's most recent date, you can be her perfect prince charming up to that point, and then you can give her the shock of her life by drugging and graping her (need to find the drugs in the library restroom first from an earlier chp)... it's a different perspective than the pure dark route and has its own very interesting querks. Or, if you want to be less extreme, you can also just be a toxic asshole to her and manipulate her along the way as well.

There's soooo many possibilities that people are forgetting here I think because they're used to playing other less complex games. No route is really very permanent unless you want it to be (within reason, ofc), at least for now anyways.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if at least one dark route for one character can lead to a romance route over an extended period of good boy behavior from MC. Even for just one character, that would be morbidly fascinating to watch from a character perspective!
Man youre after my heart scoundrel, Is like into Viola Path, You can be a prince "Projecting" Not enough content yet, But probably will be possible to be her savior or just throw money be my slut slavic girl, abuse her a little...
Or going all the way breaking all morals, and having only a transaction going foward.
Is a harsh mistress imagining How much work is going to be! almost three variants paths for every Main girl.
 

PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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Man youre after my heart scoundrel, Is like into Viola Path, You can be a prince "Projecting" Not enough content yet, But probably will be possible to be her savior or just throw money be my slut slavic girl, abuse her a little...
Or going all the way breaking all morals, and having only a transaction going foward.
Is a harsh mistress imagining How much work is going to be! almost three variants paths for every Main girl.
Haha, yeah definitely man. Viola's pure dark route ends where it began, but I have a hope that dark pathers won't truly have seen the last dark action against her, as long as they're willing to try other routes too. That's of course if Neon continues to believe that's worth his effort. He may have decided after this last Ashe update that he's going to simplify things going forward, which is simultaneously a boon and a bummer.

And after all, we can't forget that the Ashe romance date grape probably only happened because the renders were also used for the pure dark route, so it was a very efficient use of assets from his perspective. If Viola's dark route is truly over (and Neon has confirmed it is unless he changes his mind), adding another grape scene for her would be much less worth his time because only a niche romance-onto-dark path or corruption-onto-dark path would utilize it basically.

My hope is that he'll find the time (and desire) to pepper occasional grape "ramps" into character's normal paths every so often. There's something about the first grape in a setting of wholesome innocence that's arousing, when the character doesn't remotely see it coming (I know that sounds really fucked up, but I promise I'm innocent and normal in rl! :LOL: I'm only a POS when it comes to virtual people). A mid-romance grape here, a mid-corruption money-into-flowers-into-romance there keeps things fresh and interesting, but it also adds its own workload. I definitely don't envy Neon :p
 
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