VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Mini-Sode: Blue Valentine] [NeonGhosts]

[SlapE]

Ask biology about it. Monogamy has been the way to go for most people since ancient times.

What? It's literally the opposite, lmao. Humans were a largely polyamorous species all the way back then. Then as time went on, humans became more and more monogamous as society developed and advanced. It's a social construct, it's not the natural way of things whatsoever, but it's what works for most of society, and I don't see a problem with that.

 

[soprano31]

Ask biology about it. Monogamy has been the way to go for most people since ancient times.

 

[MF_DOOM]

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It's biologically not very correct, sticking to one mate will restrict your ability to produce as many offsprings as possible.
I read a few studies about it and there is no conclusive answer on that one tho.

 

[Bombmaster]

Bro not because our hunter gatherers fucked when possible because their circumstances were very different. How the fuck that could work in a current timeline. Poly relationship are the new fad but let be real is one girl 4 Joshy's.

 

[soprano31]

sticking to one mate will restrict your ability to produce as many offsprings as possible.

What does producing as many children as possible have to do with relationships or being monogamous?
Fewer and fewer people want to raise children in this world,especially with all the current problems.
just enjoy each other,
in a monogamous relationship or with several persons,
you really don't have to have children in life to be happy !!

 

[Maviarab]

It's biologically not very correct, sticking to one mate will restrict your ability to produce as many offsprings as possible.
I read a few studies about it and there is no conclusive answer on that one tho.

Which with 8 fucking billion people on the planet...and the most longevity of our species ever...why your great grandparents had like 58 kids...because 55 of them would most likely be dead before the age of 20.

Really isn't needed anymore is it?

 

[MF_DOOM]

What does producing as many children as possible have to do with relationships or being monogamous?
Fewer and fewer people want to raise children in this world,especially with all the current problems.
just enjoy each other,
in a monogamous relationship or with several persons,
you really don't have to have children in life to be happy !!

It has nothing to do with today's times, we are biologically programmed to do it and that's about it.
Some biological impulses are hard to bypass.

 

[Joshy92]

The reason I want to be able to choose a single girl is simple.
I don't like harems I don't even usually try games that have the tag.

And honestly, I'm already thinking of how awesome it would be if I can marry Mason or Nicki.

Actually, I'm pretty sure Neon said once that Nicki's romance ending could include marriage.
That would be awesome.

 

[ename144]

In the real world? Yeah, sure, jealousy is killer in relationships and the more people, the more sources of jealousy. Hell 'that' jealousy often comes just fine from the two sources of insecurity and misunderstanding in perfectly faithful monogamous relationships. In fiction? I don't get it. Especially fiction which otherwise exemplifies a celebration of... well... sluttery. Here for instance. Guy is totally getting his wick wet in a dozen girls. But somehow it's preferable that he excludes all others for a single one at some point because "that's romance" isn't something I understand. Granted, I don't know where this story is ultimately going, NeonGhosts might well pair Guy off with a single girl in a way that works in the narrative, and thusfar that's more or less what I'm expecting. But as it stands that only seems to be really a thing with Ashe, and even then she seems open sexually to threesomes, and is more against the emotional infidelity. Which strikes me as realistic and pertinent to her character, but also ends up more or less forcing a choice where Guy has to decide if she's 'worth it' (along with sub branches of infidelity). which is where I'm going "nah, brah"

I at least understand the harem games where the MC is all like "I'm the only one you can sleep with, but I get anyone I want" without jealousy ever coming into play. Dickishly selfish it may be, it's fiction, and fictional people can be well fleshed out and deeply complex and be satisfying without being overly wishfullfillmenty. Like "WVM"s first two LI have absolutely workable motivations and justifications that can be woven into far more interesting and complex stories. (To be clear, WVM is not that interesting, narratively speaking.)

Personally, I think it comes down to verisimilitude. Sure, in a work of fiction it's entirely possible to have a harem full of girls who are all happy to share the MC without issue, but in my experience games that do that come across as, well, fake. People just don't generally act like that, so having more than one (or maybe two) LI eager to join a time share either requires all the LIs have the same 'rare' personality, or it requires they act wildly out of character for the sake of the harem.

I'd much rather bite the bullet and allow the girls to react 'normally,' even if it's sometimes hard to choose. It keeps things grounded, and makes the romance feel more meaningful. Plus, it allows the rare girls who are into sharing to stand out - as they should.

That's how I see it, anyway. I suspect personal preference plays a very large role in this.

 

[Maviarab]

Personally, I think it comes down to verisimilitude. Sure, in a work of fiction it's entirely possible to have a harem full of girls who are all happy to share the MC without issue, but in my experience games that do that come across as, well, fake. People just don't generally act like that, so having more than one (or maybe two) LI eager to join a time share either requires all the LIs have the same 'rare' personality, or it requires they act wildly out of character for the sake of the harem.

I'd much rather bite the bullet and allow the girls to react 'normally,' even if it's sometimes hard to choose. It keeps things grounded, and makes the romance feel more meaningful. Plus, it allows the rare girls who are into sharing to stand out - as they should.

That's how I see it, anyway. I suspect personal preference plays a very large role in this.

Or if going to force the harem...at least have writing skills (and actual knowledge of the human pysche and how people act) and force a lot of drama at times betwen the girls, forcing us (the MC) to deal with said jealousy/time-share/personality problems that inevitibly, as you say, in real life will always occur (and if you screw up girls will leave etc).

Now that would be a haram game at the top of my to play list.

 

[Bombmaster]

Or if going to force the harem...at least have writing skills (and actual knowledge of the human pysche and how people act) and force a lot of drama at times betwen the girls, forcing us (the MC) to deal with said jealousy/time-share/personality problems that inevitibly, as you say, in real life will always occur (and if you screw up girls will leave etc).

Now that would be a haram game at the top of my to play list.

That and why 5 girls would share the same resources of said man if they can get better deals. Unless said man is king, wizard, post apocalypse survivor might makes right. Make no fucking sense. Yeah they can all fuck him but being loyal to one man?

As I said before a man have two arms one for each bride. Perfectly balanced.

Trauma is a good way to ensure a semi harem mesh, like incest the sister can't marry bother so having a second wife is needed and so on.

 

[Ragnar]

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Yeah David, but somehow that's how is has been since forever

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

It has nothing to do with today's times, we are biologically programmed to do it and that's about it.
Some biological impulses are hard to bypass.

I think you've been puff puff passin too much, bruv.

 

[MF_DOOM]

I think you've been puff puff passin too much, bruv.

I have been stone-cold sober for the last couple of years, thanks for asking.

 

[TigerWolfe]

don't even usually try games that have the tag

You're in a lot of the same threads as me sir.

*gives bombastic side eye*

 

[snakeplisskin]

You're in a lot of the same threads as me sir.

*gives bombastic side eye*

He is slowly poping up in every thread I follow lol

 

[TigerWolfe]

He is slowly poping up in every thread I follow lol

Yeah and I think this is the only non harem game I follow.

 

[Joshy92]

Yeah and I think this is the only non harem game I follow.

I should probably clarify.
I do play a few harem games, but I can't enjoy them as much as I can a game that is strictly monogamy focused.

Honestly if this had the harem tag, I probably wouldn't have even tried it.
I'm glad I did of course because it's one of my favourites now.

And I know NeonGhosts wouldn't force us to be with any girl romantically.

 

[TigerWolfe]

I should probably clarify.
I do play a few harem games, but I can't enjoy them as much as I can a game that is strictly monogamy focused.

Honestly if this had the harem tag, I probably wouldn't have even tried it.
I'm glad I did of course because it's one of my favourites now.

And I know NeonGhosts wouldn't force us to be with any girl romantically.

The only reason I'm still here is cause he writes the characters too good.

I'm hopeful that as the game nears completion, it doesn't do the AVN standard sad LI thing if you choose to not engage romantically, cause hating that is why I only play harems. Once I know what the thruple or quad or whatever options are, I'll do a single run romancing those LIs and just helping the rest.

 

[sagerock820]

The only reason I'm still here is cause he writes the characters too good.

I'm hopeful that as the game nears completion, it doesn't do the AVN standard sad LI thing if you choose to not engage romantically, cause hating that is why I only play harems. Once I know what the thruple or quad or whatever options are, I'll do a single run romancing those LIs and just helping the rest.

Same here. I don't like being forced to choose one LI.