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probably how she got scouted to be a model or something also I really like how young Isabella looks
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I know she's not a LI but I could totally help Isabella be a better person. She might seem angry or manipulative but I know deep down she's a nice girl.
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Chapter 10 > Hiatus > Chapter 1 Rework
Why keep putting off the inevitible knowing everyone will have to restart....
*sits back in the corner crying into his coffee*
Why keep putting off the inevitible knowing everyone will have to restart....
*sits back in the corner crying into his coffee*
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Nice Girls don't sell their daughters. but yeah, she can be redeemed I guess.
Don't you want to buy daughter. Might not be nice for the daughter, but it is nice for someone.
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Thanks and yeah saw the backstory on patreon really got me invested into her character.
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As long as it doesn't get too cheesy. Some character has to play the jerk and so far:
The psycho dealer is quite 100% villain.
The samoan giant bodyguard if you get nasty with that Cherry girl shows that, overall, he's not a jerk, i guess he'll have an arc.
The uber-rich father of that half asian girl might be a jerk but i don't think he's a villain. He takes care of his daughter his way.
The palm tree tall burgers flipper at the diner is a jerk, but he's just a petty thief.
Gabby ex/ Brittani soon to be ex is a jerk, but he's just an immature moron that could still grow up.
Nicki's ex is a douchebag but not a mean person. He's mostly dumb.
Gabby's father is a dealer, but i'm sure he will have his convincing backstory.
Viola's landlord is a piece of crap, but irrelevant to the story.
Who's left?
Ok, the main antagonist role is covered but i think a story where everyone eventually gets a free-pass might be decremental.
As always, let's see what's NeonGhost is cooking.
Speaking of the side character:
Owen may be a nice guy, even he is following the order from Risa's father. Maybe he is willing to help Guy if Guy sincerely helps Risa.
The youtubers may work on charity later if Guy was kind to them, and become jerks if Guy treat them bad.
I hope that the story goes like if you are being kind, people around you are getting positive influence and becoming a nice guy also.
I don't know about that bodyguard; he works with a sex trafficker that facilitates rape for evil men. Carries them off crying and begging. I definitely like seeing interesting character motivations and hearing villains excuses is always fascinating, but I don't think I want that kinda guy redeemed lol
But yeah, honestly, Brent & Jamie when you focus really, really hard to try and see things from their perspective.. it makes you feel more sorry for them than anything, well at least for me. They come off as oblivious assholes trapped in their own heads. I think that's redeemable. Risa's father is also an asshole, but he seems well-meaning. He comes off, to me, as a bit of a narcissistic jerk that doesn't have the awareness or openness (like to being mistaken, and so on) to realize he's, at least in part, a major source of his daughter's issues.
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1. Agree he even has a scar on/around his eye (the most villainous placement)
2. Unless there is some god tier blackmail/other way of being forced he is still working for the "main villain" (despite the fact that he could easily pick him up and break his neck) there is obviously more to it but at the end of the day I think it would be a real stretch to say "he has an issue that Guy can fix (his sister/mom/adult daughter is need of sex, or he the big boi just needs money)
3. I mean he takes of the daughter the same way the guy who "changed" nicki was taking care of her? He forces her to do certain things, go certain places, eat certain things etc, even beyond his stuff with Risa he is very much an old money (thinks Guy is basically on the same level as the poors), IMO the only way he is not a "villian" is if you think he should "own" his daughter like he does his fetishized statues
4. I wouldnt even say he is a "jerk" just a regular ole drug addict? Honestly the least "bad person" listed even if you assume he has stolen more than the amount shown/talked about
5. He has (with as far as we know) 100 certainty (every GF we know about) has taken unwanted/non consensual pictures/videos, that is not immaturity it is much closer to a pattern (not even getting into him being a "good ole country boy")racist with gabby (again despite her repeatedly asking to stop) he is LITERALLY a single step away from being just as bad as the main antagonist
6. I think him being dumb outshines him being "mean" but both are true. He is "bad" for stealing a car, and dumb for stealing a car from his place of work, that belonged to his coworker, to go fight a criminal and save a girl who does not want, need, nor even know if he is still around
Im personally in the camp of "there probably wont be pantomime heros or villains in this story", even the comically evil (in comparison) antagonist is given some justification and Guy has only met him for 5 minutes (he was not as bad before the indicent that gave him the scar according to risa)
Nah, you seems to forget something really important. He basically sold his girlfriend to a rich guy as a hooker to "earn" money. It did not happen only because I do not touch the dark route. And without telling Nicki, he stole the twenty thousand for gambling again. Even worse, he put a huge debt on Nicki's name through forgery. He also took away Nicki's phone. He is the direct cause of all the bad things happened to Nicki.6. I think him being dumb outshines him being "mean" but both are true. He is "bad" for stealing a car, and dumb for stealing a car from his place of work, that belonged to his coworker, to go fight a criminal and save a girl who does not want, need, nor even know if he is still around
These are clearly not just dumb or mean. I would say he deserves it even if he is killed, just because of these. The dark side of me is convincing me that it is morally right to send Brent to the drug dealer for some gay porn.
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2 I'm willing to see what's behind the character before concluding. He seems to be somewhat protective towards their victim and that makes me think there is more behind. Of course partaking in horrible mass rapes, even only enabling, is not small deal.1. Agree he even has a scar on/around his eye (the most villainous placement)
2. Unless there is some god tier blackmail/other way of being forced he is still working for the "main villain" (despite the fact that he could easily pick him up and break his neck) there is obviously more to it but at the end of the day I think it would be a real stretch to say "he has an issue that Guy can fix (his sister/mom/adult daughter is need of sex, or he the big boi just needs money)
3. I mean he takes of the daughter the same way the guy who "changed" nicki was taking care of her? He forces her to do certain things, go certain places, eat certain things etc, even beyond his stuff with Risa he is very much an old money (thinks Guy is basically on the same level as the poors), IMO the only way he is not a "villian" is if you think he should "own" his daughter like he does his fetishized statues
4. I wouldnt even say he is a "jerk" just a regular ole drug addict? Honestly the least "bad person" listed even if you assume he has stolen more than the amount shown/talked about
5. He has (with as far as we know) 100 certainty (every GF we know about) has taken unwanted/non consensual pictures/videos, that is not immaturity it is much closer to a pattern (not even getting into him being a "good ole country boy")racist with gabby (again despite her repeatedly asking to stop) he is LITERALLY a single step away from being just as bad as the main antagonist
6. I think him being dumb outshines him being "mean" but both are true. He is "bad" for stealing a car, and dumb for stealing a car from his place of work, that belonged to his coworker, to go fight a criminal and save a girl who does not want, need, nor even know if he is still around
Im personally in the camp of "there probably wont be pantomime heros or villains in this story", even the comically evil (in comparison) antagonist is given some justification and Guy has only met him for 5 minutes (he was not as bad before the indicent that gave him the scar according to risa)
3 Com'on. Risa is a drug addict with a self destructive behavioral pattern. She had been in rehab and she had multiple occasions to get back on her feet and stay clean, but she went back to use. At a certain point a parent needs to shorten a leash to keep his daughter safe. What does he do? He gave her a rent free place to stay, he doublechecks her very healthy aquanintances (see the psycho dealer), he check her to see if she's hiding substances, he gave her a job and he tries to keep her clean until she stands again on her own legs... The horror...
4 Just a petty tief. In the real world he would get fired and forgotten about. Probably not even police involved.
5 And... no kid does that right? For as much as it might be illegal a lot of dudes and even girls take videos of their sexual performances and share them with friends, not to mention behave like a terminal moron (calling Gabby a black slave, inviting friends to watch live Brittani giving head...). He's an immature douchebag that desperately needs validation, so he has to show to his friends what a player he is. A dime a dozen...
6 He's a douchebag. He tried to make money with shortcuts and he failed. He tried to 'sell off' Nicki as a further shortcut to recover money and he failed again losing it another time. Sadly i met sad excuses of men like him. Not as far st to send their girlfriend to sleep with other for money (as far as i know) but close enough. Things like that happen. No villain material here, and, anyway, you know... Nicki could have said 'fuck no'. The dude lost his money, not hers. She had a job and she could just dump him. She was into the scheme as much as him. So i guess she is a villain?
3. Where is the defense for him controlling her diet???
5.yikes
6. Nobody saw that i said "mean" (quotes included) because you did... but read the post above he committed actual crimes in amounts much bigger than "petty theft" to people "important" to him
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3 Forgot about it, but why not? She has a tendency to abuse substances, so she could easely trade drugs abuse for obesity.3. Where is the defense for him controlling her diet???
5.yikes
6. Nobody saw that i said "mean" (quotes included) because you did... but read the post above he committed actual crimes in amounts much bigger than "petty theft" to people "important" to him
5 Not saing it's cool. Just awfully common.
6 Wasn't tall burgers flipper the petty thief? And yep, stealing cash from a register is more definately a crime, but how many managers would bother to report when you can just get the rid of the guy and be done with it?
Has it even been confirmed that the tall guy is the one who stole the cash? I thought it was still a bit of a mystery. Could be the tall manager; could be Gabby's father; honestly, could also be Pepper too. We already got a scene where she denied, can't remember the evidence though. I'm not convinced it's her, but, never know what's up Neon's sleeve I guess regarding surprises. She is in a desperate situation, after all. Of course, my memory is shit so I'm a bit of a flightless bird in these discussions
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I believe not.
He's jailed
Could, but more likely not.
Of course we will see. I'm still puzzled about Pepper's cam twin.
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