ffive

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I can only speak for myself, but I get the same visceral turn-off reaction when Mason says she’s a man as when I actually see naked men; it’s definitely not a case of “body’s into it, mind is against” like you’re describing.
I get to some extent what you're describing, the idea that "this is a man who just happens to look like a girl" certainly brings some sense of weirdness to it. Though i'm not sure how much of that is Mason's self-identification and how much is discomfort over not being quite able to see him the same way he sees himself. I guess the degree of it simply differs between individuals and some people are less affected by it (or not bothered by idea of intimate contact with a man in the first place)
 
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PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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I’ll chalk that up to my not understanding trans people in general, then.



I don’t know about that, because there are plenty of people on this site who identify as straight and still engage in content with hermaphrodites and 100% pre-op transwomen, or even femboys. (As a straight man myself, I don’t understand this either).



That’s another one I don’t get. If you respect gender identity at all, then don’t you have to accept that anyone who says they’re a man is a man? So you’re having sex with someone who tells you straight up that he’s a man, while fully acknowledging that he’s a man? You do you (no judgment), but that’s an instant no from me, regardless of what the guy actually looks like. I don’t see how that has anything to do with ciswomen dressing up in a football uniform (women’s football is a thing, too, and it could just be a thing about guys liking when their girlfriends wears their clothes), or even alt girls (who, while they might have short hair or androgynous clothing, can still look quite feminine).
You can call it closet gay/bi if you want, but most men who like transwomen/dickgirls identify as straight. Gay men do not usually look at porn with transwomen, they watch transmen. Generally. I don't really want to get into the other stuff, I was just explaining the sexuality aspect and what players want. They either want a cute transgirl that looks exactly like a chick, but with a dick; or they want a transboy that basically looks exactly like a feminine chick, but 'he/him'. Those are the neat boxes players have decided on from what I see. You don't really have to understand it, just decline Mason's sex advances and focus on the other LIs, no biggie.
 

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i dont find anything to do with mason calling himself a man arousing. its just a part of the story. i dont care if the MC is into it either. when watching erotic content, not everything has to get me off or be my kink as long as their is a story worth seeing. Like the tv series spartacus, could have done without the gay gladiator scenes, but whatever was a great show.

regardless i do not see the appeal of mason's gender identity. and i think its funny how some people say both, respect mason's gender identity but also so say you can fuck him cause he's got a pussy which makes him a girl. lol. no im not banging a woman who wants me to call her bro when im inside her, so not screwing a man with a pussy either. not my thing. and yes, words can kill erections, just like they can bring arousal they can end it.
 

ffive

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Not sure if I posted these here, but while I was on vacation I was workshopping the idea of the player changing the dress code for The Lawful Waffle, having seen Chesty Cheetahs' booming business.

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Pepper seems nonplussed.

"I should've known you're a pervert."
"What are you complaining about? You still get to wear way more than your sister."

:whistle::coffee:
 

soprano31

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Not sure if I posted these here, but while I was on vacation I was workshopping the idea of the player changing the dress code for The Lawful Waffle, having seen Chesty Cheetahs' booming business.

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Mama,mia,she looks at you as if she wants to slam your head against the table,
poke your eyes out,and then kindly delivers your food,
while guy thinks" just wait until we get to the kitchen,
then we'll play "good cop bad cop " with the handcuffs.. :sneaky::sneaky:
 

Lightaces

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She takes a lot of space indeed , Viola , Gaby have way less content and they were added way before mason.
Mason is a sex worker who is used to using his body to make his way in the world. Viola is a immigrant virgin, and Gaby is just out of an abusive relationship. It would be weird - by any logic, either porn, fiction, or real world - if Mason wasn't the readiest to thank Guy with sex.
 

TrixRabbit

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Not sure if I posted these here, but while I was on vacation I was workshopping the idea of the player changing the dress code for The Lawful Waffle, having seen Chesty Cheetahs' booming business.

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Pepper looks hot but I'm not sure I like this one the "light path" - my goal there was to help Pepper, rather than exploit her. On the dark path it definitely works.
 

Lightaces

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Dev let's Mason state at one point early, that he is full aware of his sex but always know he has a different feel.
Also I think to remember him talking about surgery, but I could not find the scene.

My initial approach is the white-knight.
As I'am a courious and adventures individual and don't restrain my mind I also explore other pathes. And with what NeonGhosts delivers here I feel rewarded.
He says at one point that he has never really thought about medical transition, because he doesn't believe he would ever be able to afford it.
 

TrixRabbit

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Mason is a sex worker who is used to using his body to make his way in the world. Viola is a immigrant virgin, and Gaby is just out of an abusive relationship. It would be weird - by any logic, either porn, fiction, or real world - if Mason wasn't the readiest to thank Guy with sex.
Viola is trying to save herself and her mom while preserving her dignity - that's why she was so grateful when you save her from her landlord but also why she insists on working to pay you back. I can see Gabby being ready to fuck Guy if that's what it takes to keep him happy because she's just out of an abusive relationship and because it's the only thing she has that the millionaire might want - especially after Guy makes it clear that he wants that.
 

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Viola is trying to save herself and her mom while preserving her dignity - that's why she was so grateful when you save her from her landlord but also why she insists on working to pay you back. I can see Gabby being ready to fuck Guy if that's what it takes to keep him happy because she's just out of an abusive relationship and because it's the only thing she has that the millionaire might want - especially after Guy makes it clear that he wants that.
But they are BOTH going to be holding back on it, if for no other reason than that they don't have the practice of going up to basically a stranger and going, "let's go into that alleyway and fuck."
 
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TrixRabbit

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But they are BOTH going to be holding back on it, if for no other reason than that they don't have the practice of going up to basically a stranger and going, "let's go into that alleyway and fuck."
Sure, I'm just saying that Gabby is more likely to give it up than Viola who is trying desperately to dig herself and her mom out of their hole by working hard and not by selling herself.
 

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Pepper looks hot but I'm not sure I like this one the "light path" - my goal there was to help Pepper, rather than exploit her. On the dark path it definitely works.
It's definitely not a 100% sure thing it'll even make it into the game. If I did it, I'd almost certainly offer an alternative, or contrive a plausible reason for Pepper to be okay with it -- like her tips increasing tenfold in a month.
 

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It's definitely not a 100% sure thing it'll even make it into the game. If I did it, I'd almost certainly offer an alternative, or contrive a plausible reason for Pepper to be okay with it -- like her tips increasing tenfold in a month.
If I recall the backstory correctly, MC bought the cafe because of the nostalgia having lunches there with Nicki. Profits were never great since it was owned by MC. Is that accurate?

If MC goes the "dark" path, and suddenly prefers profits over the nostalgia, it could work. But on the "light" path his sudden need for profits over the nostalgia would be a harder lore sell.
 

Pixillin'

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If I recall the backstory correctly, MC bought the cafe because of the nostalgia having lunches there with Nicki. Profits were never great since it was owned by MC. Is that accurate?

If MC goes the "dark" path, and suddenly prefers profits over the nostalgia, it could work. But on the "light" path his sudden need for profits over the nostalgia would be a harder lore sell.
Yeah, on the light path my goal is to help them all, without exploiting them. I'm with Nicki but that's all. Everyone else I'm just helping because I'm nice.
 

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It's definitely not a 100% sure thing it'll even make it into the game. If I did it, I'd almost certainly offer an alternative, or contrive a plausible reason for Pepper to be okay with it -- like her tips increasing tenfold in a month.
So you're thinking of having new uniforms to go along with the restaurant remodeling? What you're showing is a possible idea of what would be on the more exploiting route do you have an idea for an alternative?
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ffive

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On the light path just have Cassie convince MC that those uniforms would be a good idea. As if he's going to tell his little sister no. :sneaky:
 
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