NeonGhosts

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After stewing on it for a day, I decided to redo this image and get rid of the AI element. Thanks for keeping me honest. :'D

Does a romance with Mason end poorly? Even the good option is kinda taking advantage of him
Nah, there's a possible happy ending with Mason. I totally get why people read ill intent into the Mason relationship, but if you're nice (or even just not a dick..) to him he'll throw himself at you like, three different times. The first time can be confused as him trying to uphold what he sees as his end of a quid-pro-quo, but after that I think it's safe to say Mason's just into the player. Plus, some of Mason's behavior can be explained by the link between autism and hypersexual behavior.

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Joshy92

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After stewing on it for a day, I decided to redo this image and get rid of the AI element. Thanks for keeping me honest. :'D



Nah, there's a possible happy ending with Mason. I totally get why people read ill intent into the Mason relationship, but if you're nice (or even just not a dick..) to him he'll throw himself at you like, three different times. The first time can be confused as him trying to uphold what he sees as his end of a quid-pro-quo, but after that I think it's safe to say Mason's just into the player. Plus, some of Mason's behavior can be explained by the link between autism and hypersexual behavior.

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Dude, I still can't stop thinking about that beautiful sex scene with Mason where we made love. I mean you even gave us the option to eat his arse and let him act dominant, I loved that so much.

The whole scene and update was simply superb, and I can't wait to see what you do with some of my other favourites like Pepper.
 

Lightaces

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Gentlemen and ladies and other fairy tale creatures! here I present to you one simple trick to get rid of poor trolls and idiots:
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After clicking this one button, his posts disappear as if they never existed ;D

And honestly I recommend it to all of you, after all life is too short to waste time and energy on trolls and fools
This, but also, just don't respond. Like, at all. Someone a few pages back responded with, "I'm all out of troll feed." Dude, YOU JUST FED THE TROLL!
 

Krepax

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Well, kill me... I never gave this game a chance before and... wow!

I don't think I've ever seen an AVN in which you can choose how to deal or even re-shape the other characters at such depth. I also like the fact that, once a choice is made, the game doesn't railroad you till the end. You can bail out of a relationship later or commit to one without going all in from the beginning.

I've got to the point of the first meeting with Mason and I've tried all the different routes, or so I think... I counted 5. It wouldn't surprise me if we'll be able to influence its sexuality/gender in addition to the usual friend/lover/sub scenario.

I don't get all the hate for Nick... Even if the first part of the story is "forced" onto the player, it merely exists to flesh out the MC background. I don't see people complaining that the MC's parents are almost always dead or absent! :D I mean, the MC doesn't exist in a vacuum. What part of its former life is displayed via flashbacks or intro, it's up to the author.

Speaking about Nick, I do hope it will be possible to convince her to remove her tattoos or go back to her natural hair colour. Those tattoos are a memento of a bad time in her life, so it kind of make sense that getting rid of them could be a sort of closure.

PS: another game on my "to support" list... :unsure:
 

Pixillin'

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I don't get all the hate for Nick... Even if the first part of the story is "forced" onto the player, it merely exists to flesh out the MC background. I don't see people complaining that the MC's parents are almost always dead or absent! :D I mean, the MC doesn't exist in a vacuum. What part of its former life is displayed via flashbacks or intro, it's up to the author.

Speaking about Nick, I do hope it will be possible to convince her to remove her tattoos or go back to her natural hair colour. Those tattoos are a memento of a bad time in her life, so it kind of make sense that getting rid of them could be a sort of closure.

PS: another game on my "to support" list... :unsure:
It is definitely one of the best games going. Don't worry about Nicki, Neon is currently re-working Chapter 1 (out in March I think) and the sex with Nicki will be optional. As for the Tats & hair, personally I'll leave it to her. If she wants to change, I'd pay for it, if she wants to keep it all - that's up to her. I get what you're saying but it seems to me like Nicki has had a lot of people telling her what to do with her body. It should be her choice. (IMO)
 

9ssmith9

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Nah, there's a possible happy ending with Mason. I totally get why people read ill intent into the Mason relationship, but if you're nice (or even just not a dick..) to him he'll throw himself at you like, three different times. The first time can be confused as him trying to uphold what he sees as his end of a quid-pro-quo, but after that I think it's safe to say Mason's just into the player. Plus, some of Mason's behavior can be explained by the link between autism and hypersexual behavior.
I had noticed that, as someone who wasn't romancing him (not being into guys). I read it as him not really understanding the idea of someone just doing something nice for him for no reason, which made it that much more fun to keep saying no. Sorry, Mason! You're just going to have to accept that a person can be nice to you without wanting anything in return.
 
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NewTricks

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the pattern:
1 noob makes succesful game and becomes exnoob
2 exnoob realise early game is mid and redoes the early game
3 ???
4 profit/whining
I firmly believe that the revamped chapter one is going to be worth playing. Now, when I hear about the revamped chapter two that is when I will begin unleashing all the whining I have stored up. :giggle:

I think there is a right way and a wrong way to do it, that is when it needs doing. Probably the worst way is the dev of WVM, who retroactively changed the story, hasn't bothered to change the early chapters, and just has the current chapters have the characters act as if the scenes we haven't seen happened anyway. Leaving the reader in a constant state of confusion and bewilderment. It would be like if Neon decided that Guy and Brent had a fistfight at the store after finding out about the crypto windfall and everybody mentions it in passing while we are left scratching our heads, looking at the first chapter that hasn't changed.
 

Maviarab

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I firmly believe that the revamped chapter one is going to be worth playing.
Agree
Now, when I hear about the revamped chapter two that is when I will begin unleashing all the whining I have stored up.
Be right beside you
think there is a right way and a wrong way to do it, that is when it needs doing.
The wrong time is not 3 years after first release knowing you will break everyones saves and force everyone to restart....but keeping pushing new content...
 

NewTricks

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The wrong time is not 3 years after first release knowing you will break everyones saves and force everyone to restart....but keeping pushing new content...
I sympathize with you about the broken saves, but it bothers me more in some games than in others. If they are worth replaying then it isn't an issue. If they are a Renpy VN that has a robust skip function, also not an issue. When it is an RPGM game that involves treasure finding or a sandbox that requires sleeping then I will take that resentment to the grave.
 

Pixillin'

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For me, the goal of this game should be that 10 years from now A) It's a game you want to replay and B) It's still satisfying as a game and a story when you do. This goes for all games (unless the Dev is really pushing it and fucking around - like 6 months between updates and they add one new scene). I'd hate to be replaying this someday and go "oh yeah, this part is kind of weird and rushed because people couldn't wait an extra few weeks for the update back in 2025. And I think that's what Neon is going for - something he can be proud of years from now. I don't have any problem with reworking stuff, especially from early in the game when the Dev really didn't know the characters/story that well and their skills weren't as strong as they are now. There are several games where I wish the Dev *would* go back and rework stuff, that's not up to par or where the story took an obvious bad turn.
 
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