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Joshy92

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Actually, it's an adult visual novel first and foremost. It has sex in it and other adult elements, but at the end of the day it's still a novel. There are many differing styles of these as well, some more sex focused and fast paced. Others more story-driven and/or slow-burn. This definitely falls into the more story focused side of things, with the sex and lewd scenes being an element that adds another layer to the story, but doesn't take the forefront.

Meanwhile, there are other novels/games where sex is in the forefront, it IS the focus of those games. It sounds like those games/novels might be more your speed. I say this because to me it seems like you're looking for porn instead of a story or even a game. This makes me wonder why you don't just go watch porn at that point though, or just go download games/novels and use a gallery un-locker, there's your porn.
Well said bro.
This is a fucking awesome game as it is.
Who cares if this update wasn't all about sex?

To me the sex scenes are a bonus.

Although I will admit I'm looking forward to the day I can make love to Mason.
 

PathOfLust

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So. I still don’t understand. Do I download 0.55? Will there be all the content of the game? From the beginning to the end?? Or is it like season two or some shit and I have to do both 0.4 and 0.55??
 

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It's not so much about realism as is about keeping the story somewhat grounded and believeable. Characters have to follow the rules of the universe they are in, otherwise is shitty writing, If the story offers no consequences for your actions than what is the point in having choices and paths in the first place if the end result is all the same?
I agree, but then again by appropriate writing and story telling you can make anything happen. For example Nicki returned to MC in the beginning because her bf tried to force her into prostitution and she considered MC a better choice than being violated by random strangers.

Now, Nicki leaving MC as a result of him acting like a jerk certainly could have been prevented if he somehow managed otherwise to establish a grip on her, without it becoming unrealistic. Or in other words: Girls leaving MC is ONE option for realistic behaviour in a universe similar to ours. I think other options which are not totally over the top also could have been possible.
 
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Well said bro.
This is a fucking awesome game as it is.
Who cares if this update wasn't all about sex?

To me the sex scenes are a bonus.

Although I will admit I'm looking forward to the day I can make love to Mason.
so do I download the vanilla version and apply the patch or do I wait for the full version
 
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DatGuy20

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I agree, but then again by appropriate writing and story telling you can make anything happen. For example Nicki returned to MC in the beginning because her bf tried to force her into prostitution and she considered MC a better choice than being violated by random strangers.

Now, Nicki leaving MC as a result of him acting like a jerk certainly could have been prevented if he somehow managed otherwise to establish a grip on her, without it becoming unrealistic. Or in other words: Girls leaving MC is ONE option for realistic behaviour in a universe similar to ours. I think other options which are not totally over the top also could have been possible.
You can get her to stay by praising/teasing/apologizing to her in the last scene you have with her instead of molesting her.
 

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It's not so much about realism as is about keeping the story somewhat grounded and believeable. Characters have to follow the rules of the universe they are in, otherwise is shitty writing, If the story offers no consequences for your actions than what is the point in having choices and paths in the first place if the end result is all the same?
First I want to state again, I'm not saying the dev is out of line for making the story they want. I fully believe a dev should tell the story they want to. Of course I also don't think that devs should go back and change things (this "Nicki remake" makes me nervous).

That said I don't give a fuck about believability or realism. I want entertainment which until Nicki left I was getting 100% from this vn. The dev may want to shy away from it but is damn good at creating hot depraved scenes.

You asked the point in it? To be entertained, if I want morals, consequences and deeper meaning the last place I'd turn is an adult visual novel. I know it's not a porn vn but the dev is really strong in writing hot scenes which I enjoy and is the reason I play this vn.

Everyone is different. I'm happy for those that love the vanilla path, but don't you think they would be a little upset if an li left because the mc was too nice?

I think this dev has talent. I wish no ill on them nor am I mad. Something I enjoyed is no more and it's just sad. No biggie.
 

DatGuy20

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First I want to state again, I'm not saying the dev is out of line for making the story they want. I fully believe a dev should tell the story they want to. Of course I also don't think that devs should go back and change things (this "Nicki remake" makes me nervous).

That said I don't give a fuck about believability or realism. I want entertainment which until Nicki left I was getting 100% from this vn. The dev may want to shy away from it but is damn good at creating hot depraved scenes.

You asked the point in it? To be entertained, if I want morals, consequences and deeper meaning the last place I'd turn is an adult visual novel. I know it's not a porn vn but the dev is really strong in writing hot scenes which I enjoy and is the reason I play this vn.

Everyone is different. I'm happy for those that love the vanilla path, but don't you think they would be a little upset if an li left because the mc was too nice?

I think this dev has talent. I wish no ill on them nor am I mad. Something I enjoyed is no more and it's just sad. No biggie.
Once again, the choices aren't between the vanilla path and the dark path. There are at the very least 2 more paths than that for most girls. (Not counting the platonic path)
 

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Once again, the choices aren't between the vanilla path and the dark path. There are at the very least 2 more paths than that for most girls. (Not counting the platonic path)
Which is wonderful for those that want to choose it. Let me put it this way would love pathers be happy if you had to punch an li to keep her? Probably not, that's how it felt being a dark pather being forced to do lovey things to keep her.
 
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Which is wonderful for those that want to choose it. Let me put it this way would love pathers be happy if you had to punch an li to keep her? Probably not, that's how it felt being a dark pather being forced to do lovey things to keep her.
Yeah we all have our wants+likes and dislikes and dev can not make us all happy, he has to make his choices also considering time he has and can produce in a given time frame and some we will like better as others. Same as some one a few replies above would love to have Nicky get a breast enlargement and I love them as they are and would not be enthusiastic if happened. Nothing wrong with that, nor voicing it, up to dev what and if he does anything with it considering his own wants and constraints.
 

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Yeah we all have our wants+likes and dislikes and dev can not make us all happy, he has to make his choices also considering time he has and can produce in a given time frame and some we will like better as others. Same as some one a few replies above would love to have Nicky get a breast enlargement and I love them as they are and would not be enthusiastic if happened. Nothing wrong with that, nor vouicing it, up to dev what and if he does anything with it considering his own wants and constraints.
Exactly, I was just voicing my opinions not trying to state that it had to be my way. There is a shoe for every foot
 
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DatGuy20

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Which is wonderful for those that want to choose it. Let me put it this way would love pathers be happy if you had to punch an li to keep her? Probably not, that's how it felt being a dark pather being forced to do lovey things to keep her.
You don't have to be lovey towards her? You just need to be not a total dick for like one scene...
 

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You don't have to be lovey towards her? You just need to be not a total dick for like one scene...
If it was just one scene and it went back to the way it was that would be awesome for me. Yet that isn't the case from my understanding.

It's the end of that dark fun with her regardless if she leaves or not. It's not so much her that I miss but the dark content with her.
 
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