SlowGoesSlow
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There should be more Risa, I agree.
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NewTricks
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Well, Risa's story was set up with the cliffhanger last episode so it would stand to reason that there is a lot of her in this one. It is kind of like the previous update where there had been very little of Mason up to that point and then a whole lot of him all at once then none at all in the next update. As the cast continues to expand we are bound to see more of that. Permanently in some cases, as some of the girls are disappearing due to mistreatment.
Joshy92
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I don't know how the heck to be a dad but I have to learn.
If I date Carolina that means Maya becomes my daughter. And I want to be the best dad ever.
If I date Carolina that means Maya becomes my daughter. And I want to be the best dad ever.
BlenderGuy
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The best fatherly advice would be to not shag your own kids.
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3 updates in a row, somehow the game now revolves around a girl that was supposed to be a side piece for quick extra lewd scenes.
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ha you can be relaxed, Joshy dont shag even his own Li.
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It's nothing I plan to address immediately, but I think your argument has a lot of merit. Ashe's first appearance in Chapter Two also featured my first time really using things like coded variables in the script. As a result, a lot of her relationship progression is.. Kind of clunky. I'd say the same is true of Gabby, who you can kiss, and then she basically brushes it off and never mentions it again. It's just because I didn't add nearly as many variables as I needed to, to track everything going on with them.
These are things I'd like to fix eventually. At present, Ashe kind of has a FWB path, which came from her recent dinner-date with Guy. If you just parted as friends in Chapter Two, then slept with her on her date, she leaves instead of staying over, and doesn't use much lovey-dovey language. Likewise, I plan to make her corruption path, where Guy coerces her into coming home with him in Chapter Two, have the option for an enemies-to-lovers sexual relationship. Again, there are some hints towards that in her date, if you manage to improve her opinion of you, and she asks you to fuck her. So, it'd be relatively trivial to move some things around and have the option where you see her as a hook-up. My intention with Ashe on the love path is basically that she, as someone who beleives in astrology, moon cycles, magnetic fields, etc. sees some kind of cosmic confluence in her romance with Guy. Meeting him, sleeping with him on the first date, and running into him in the park all make her think the winds of fate are blowing, so she jumps a little too readily into full-on romance.
As part of my remake of Chapter One, I'll be moving all the various chapter variables so they load before the game itself, with default values. This will be the end of the "XYZ not defined" error that's occasionally plagued me, while also allowing me to go back and tinker with things in the early chapters, adding content branches, without breaking the game. At that time, I'd like to clean up some stuff from Chapter Two and Three.
Well, like Tolkien said, "The tale grew in the telling."3 updates in a row, somehow the game now revolves around a girl that was supposed to be a side piece for quick extra lewd scenes.
I hadn't originally planned for Risa to occupy the spot in the story that she currently does. I'd planned for her to have a looser connection to events. But, ultimately I realized that having someone who was so closely acquainted with the main good-path antagonist would be useful.
As for her appearances over the last few updates, she was in a brief scene where she tried to make MC look good to Ashe, and then an optional scene where MC could visit her. Then she was in an optional scene where you woke up in the office with her present. Then the relatively brief scene where she baits you into visiting Lucien.
The same updates had scenes with Ashe, Viola, Nicki, Brittani, Cam-Pepper, and Carolina. So, I'd hardly say she's getting an outsized amount of shine. The only people we haven't seen much of lately are Gabby and Madison, but that's largely because their plot begins to take center stage with the release of Madison's husband, and his unraveling connection to the larger plot.
I'd still wager I finish it before George RR Martin gets the next SoIaF book out.
Look, I totally get that it's frustrating to wait for updates, or wait for content for a character you like. But, allow me to put this in perspective. The current script has 384,566 words in it, and nearly 3 million characters. Google tells me that the average 300 page novel stands around 90,000 words.
So, in less than two years, I've written 4.27 novels, while rendering something like 8,000 pieces of art, teaching myself how to do rudimentary coding, generating content for my subscription platforms, and interacting with four main communities/discussion hubs. And I work an average of 60 hours a week, make time to exercise every day, and saw four new countries last year.
There are games that have been around since 2019 that have put out less content than me, while having more supporters, multiple people working on them, and a frankly less challenging plot/branching storyline to write and render.
If anyone wants me to start putting out monthly updates where everything is POV, so I never have to render/pose more than one girl at a time, all the sex scenes are just a video of a dick sliding in and out of a pussy, and the location is the same mansion you've seen in a couple dozen games already, I can totally do that.
But, if you want me to keep making FiN, then it's going to take how long it takes.
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I'm looking forward to the update. I took an instant dislike to Risa, and for the first time, I'm looking forward to seeing what Dark Path options are available.
Joshy92
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I think Risa is awesome.
I'm looking forward to seeing what happens next with her story.
I hope I can help her with her drug problem.
I'm looking forward to seeing what happens next with her story.
I hope I can help her with her drug problem.
The Anti
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I look forward to getting her even More hooked on drugs.
Dessolos
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We will keep her clean we will take shifts to simp over her while keeping her clean.
Dark Silence
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Hey, I'll be gettin her clean. I mean, she'll be chained in a corner, fed, watered and cleaned daily. While bein my personal anal slut. So, she won't be goin out gettin drugs.
No Brittani, we lost.
Dessolos
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I know but I at least get 2 girls I like in this update tho 1 is only gonna have a small portion and 1 girl may change my mind if I like her or not depending on what happens. While the last update won me over to her side she could easily lose me depending on her actions.No Brittani, we lost.
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I don't think anyone is concerned about monthly updates, Neon, or at least I'm certainly not. You can take as long as you need to craft each chapter. Quality is worth waiting for. The concern is about whether the quality of the game is higher for all the additional characters you've added and then bumped to increasingly prominent roles.
I believe you when you say that Risa can be a useful tool to introduce the antagonist, but there's still a price to pay for adding her scenes. As you note, most of the MC's interactions with her were optional. That means a lot of MCs had nowhere near a strong enough relationship with her to explain why he'd stick his neck so far out to help her. The earlier chapters had been spent developing his relationship to other girls, yet it's Risa's relationship that turns out to be the lynchpin.
The result, IMHO, is that Risa's contribution feels like a disruption of the story rather than the next step of it. It's not that her scenes are bad, or even that they're inferior to the alternative methods of introducing Lucien when considered in a vacuum. But those scenes aren't experienced by the player in a vacuum, they're experienced following 6-ish chapters that focused on very different characters and situations. Speaking as someone who liked those characters and situations, it wasn't great to see them sidelined so a minor character I didn't like could take center stage for a pivotal plot point.
Now maybe these issues will be fixed in the rework, when you'll have time to integrate Risa from the beginning. Risa may not be my favorite, but she would certainly benefit from proper groundwork. But then again, when the time comes maybe Risa will wind up taking a backseat to Isabella. Or Dorothy. Or to whatever new flavor has caught your eye by then. Because there's always another awesome idea out there that you think of just a little too late, and trust me, I know that sucks. But at the end of the day you *need* to draw a line somewhere and focus on what you have rather than what you ought to have had. If you try to include everything in a single work it will wind up feeling bland and unfocused - especially if you keep incorporating stuff late in the process. You mention how Tolkien's tale grew in the telling, but the amount of stuff he left out was more than he could sort through in his lifetime.
I'm sure you're sick of being second guessed by us pirates, and I know you aren't adding these girls to pad out the game without having to write a story. I am not questioning your intent nor your work ethic. You are a skilled developer making a game I like. But from my point of view, I've yet to see you reduce the scope of a girl's content once she was added; her content might get delayed, but we're always assured it is still coming eventually. The ratchet has only ever gone in one direction. That is not sustainable. So as much as it might rankle, my sincere advice to you is to think long and hard about what exactly you'd be willing to cut from another girl's content before you decide to elevate any more characters to a larger role.
