Dessolos

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I really liked Nicky as a friend even when she was dating when she was introduced ( i dont like ntr but i not one of those psychos who think someone else wife is his so if she fuck her husband is ntr those people are CRAZYY ) my problem with her is she keep messing up and coming to the mc for help, making the same mistakes, and then go off with some dude them come back all fucked up, instead of coming to the mc for help as soon as her bf did something wrong and breaking up, i would be okay even if she had another bf and was not into the mc, but this MESS she made and them coming back again for help this make me really dont like her, what is sad cuz she is cool when she is not being stupid, also she was like this to those 2 guys and sudden she want to be brave agains the mc what is a turn off like the mc is worse than those guys ?
I only recall her coming to the MC once for help maybe twice depending on your pov. I don't really counting what Brent made her do at the start as she didn't want to do it or was her idea. I really only count the 2nd time cause that's when she actually needed the help.

Your points are fair since it's just a different point of view but I can understand it. The way I see it she didn't come to the MC for help again right away because she didn't want to take advantage of again and probably felt like shit doing it the first time. That and she probably wanted to try to do things on her own. As to me the it seemed like she actually cared and valued the MC's friendship. That and she barley even asked for help the 2nd time she more or less was just asking for a place to stay for just a few days. It was the MC that made it into a job and something longer term until she decided to move out on her own so didn't feel like she was taking advantage of the MC even more than she already did by living with him for longer than she wanted 2.

Again that's just my point of view and felt like sharing it.


After having played nice Guy, Nicki's action make no sense, because on that route, she has an out and doesn't take it. Guy doesn't even guilt her for taking the money.
That may be true but I also think she didn't want to take advantage again of the MC and felt bad for doing it the first time since she valued their friendship. From that point of view it makes sense.
 
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Well, damn. Haven't really been browsing the threads lately so this surprised me. I had a pretty shitty day today too so this is just the most welcome kind of surprise. (edit: typos)

Thank you Neon for making one of the very few VNs I still follow at this point. And also for being a bro and just hanging out in the thread with us bozos.
 
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Vanilla:hand holding,head patting,Joshy 92 cuckold-cheater sex,boring sleep sex..:sleep::sleep:
Non-vanilla:rape,beating,spitting,humiliation,The best dark things in life..:love:(y)
mmmm the best things definitely. So this means that today's update is useless?
 

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That's the Friends Indeed version, bro. Will you guys do the Friends In Need .55 later?
 
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I'll admit, I'm a little flummoxed nobody seemed very excited by the totally free 'teaser' version I made, available on both Patreon and SubStar, that contained almost half the total images of the update. SHRUG!

Anyways, the $5 version out on Monday will have an extra couple of small scenes, and the public version on the 7th will have a bit more. A couple of small art improvements too, but nothing that's overly noticeable.
Hi NeonGhosts

The update drops down to my tier in a couple of days
And I'm looking forward to playing it and coming here to discuss it with you and all my buddies in here.

Also have a happy new year mate.
 

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I liked the game a lot, even supported it on SS, but I might have to tap out and weight for it to be done lol. Game has a bit too many routes for me which makes the updates seem smaller than they already are. Not to mention I need to do too much digging to see if I missed some obscure trigger or something to make sure I didn't miss anything since I don't feel like waiting for the walkthrough to get updated.

Still I'm sure it'll be a great game when completed
 

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I'll admit, I'm a little flummoxed nobody seemed very excited by the totally free 'teaser' version I made, available on both Patreon and SubStar, that contained almost half the total images of the update. SHRUG!

Anyways, the $5 version out on Monday will have an extra couple of small scenes, and the public version on the 7th will have a bit more. A couple of small art improvements too, but nothing that's overly noticeable.
Well i will try it and post my review here because i'm kinda playing two or 3 routes so far, Dark, So-so, Vanilla.
But i wait for both so i can play them together on weekend or something.
So far i will be honest i liked the game until the last update 0.4, (didn't play the ch8 yet) the characters unique way introducing them their story etc...
The renders actually good , Story wise doing good so far keep it up man.

Note: my girl is Viola
 

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I liked the game a lot, even supported it on SS, but I might have to tap out and weight for it to be done lol. Game has a bit too many routes for me which makes the updates seem smaller than they already are. Not to mention I need to do too much digging to see if I missed some obscure trigger or something to make sure I didn't miss anything since I don't feel like waiting for the walkthrough to get updated.

Still I'm sure it'll be a great game when completed
Loosely related, you should look into Universal Renpy mod, it lets you know when paths are available while playing
 
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Guys, I'm so sorry in advance for the wall, but I'm animated by some THC-addled nerve-firing: IF we look at our MC through a character-study lens (ignoring the player and focusing purely on the character within Neon's world), then it makes sense to ponder what the different choices say about the MC's personality and how it could even possibly reflect different responses to childhood trauma (this may explain his bad relationship with his mother, if we assume it's not his own doing). Could even explain potential future story beats or why the LIs react the way they do. I'm not a childhood development or personality expert obviously, nor am I a good writer like Neon, and it's probably gonna sound like armchair psychology bs, maybe 'cause it is, but eh I can still have fun poking at the subject with my own (limited :censored:) understanding. :)

-- Friendship routes: While there are so many potential explanations of this route, both normal and not-so-normal, if we assume the MC isn't simply gay or asexual, and we assume it's motivated by some personality querk or past trauma, it's possible that he has learned an avoidant approach to women (if not to intimate relationships altogether), whether because of his general negative association or because he heavily internalized his own negative treatment (i.e., he's not good enough for any of the women he encounters in his life; he's unlovable; etc.). Possible his mother abused him and set this in motion. Gotta get the drama juices flowing! :p

-- Romance routes: Well, this route could obviously just represent a normal, well-adjusted successful Guy. Buuut, if we go the more dramatic route, it's possible MC has learned through past experiences with a 'dark-triad' personality type that heavy flattery and placing women's desires at the center of his life helped to stave off negative treatment (whether from SOs or even his own mother) and was often the only source of love from this traumatic relationship or perhaps all of his relationships (the poor bastard). Everybody loves being 'courted', even abusive people! Especially abusive people, even. This probably left him feeling emotionally spent all the time, though. But this perspective happens to have benefited the women around Guy and explains his success with them; feeling like a million bucks with a nice-looking guy who also has a million bucks is like a Princess fantasy come to life for so many women.

Sources of drama from Guy in the relationship may be struggles that stem from Guy's heavy expenditure of energy towards the happiness of his significant others which can eventually reach a breaking point. The relationship could go too fast even for him, even though he's sometimes the one compulsorily setting the speed limit, and he may respond by backing off. The woman/women in his life would especially feel a sense of disillusionment and rejection.

-- Toxic romance routes: Similar in some respects to the normal romance, but with a twist where Guy uses it as a tool of emotional manipulation in service to his own selfish interests. In this case, he could be a dark-triad, perhaps inherited from his mother. Relationship issues would instead result from him getting bored with the LIs, or perhaps feeling victimized by them (an illusion on Guy's part), and also likely the LIs reacting to his jarring shift between (what seems like) love and devotion intertwined with belittlement and disrespect.

-- Corruption routes: Almost the same as above, except in place of Guy's focus on emotional manipulation is financial manipulation & blackmail (not that they're mutually exclusive, of course). This can probably be considered with the same understanding as toxic romance, just a different flavor. The women aren't going to be under the illusion of a loving relationship here and are instead responding directly to fears (and desires to some extent; a sort of 'pact-with-the-devil' defense mechanism used to internally justify their ongoing abuse).

-- Light-side corruption: I'm not sure this is actually a route (some of Neon's comments and ingame choices seem to hint at it, though), but if it is, then obviously this could just be a well-adjusted horned up version of Guy that doesn't want (or isn't ready for) a serious relationship and happens to have a lot of money to throw at the ladies. Buuut, if we put a drama lens over it, I can think of two possibilities:
1) he's a dark-triad that's found a more mutually beneficial way to satisfy his selfish desires without outright abuse or manipulation; perhaps his mother 'checked' him early on when he went too far, and so he learned to get a little of what he wants while giving her a little of what she wants, without any malice.
2) he's basically a more outgoing and pent-up version of the 'friendship' route with the same avoidance of intimacy, but with an outlet of sex as the closest he can psychologically get to feeling close to a woman without his wall defense surfacing, a need he could actually fuel once he obtained some wealth.

-- Dark routes: Guy seems to have an EXTREME anger and resentment towards women (or maybe people in general). Very likely stricken with some kind of dark-triad, especially if our Guy shows no signs of remorse and seems to enjoy toying with his victims.

But Neon has also potentially opened up, via apologies towards Nicky & Ashe (which may not be genuine, but it's interesting to assume they are), another interpretation where Guy actually can feel some level of guilt, albeit in a disturbing and fucked up light. In this case, Guy probably wouldn't be a psychopath or a machiavellian, but he does lash out at women violently and then finds ways to justify it so he doesn't have to confront his own wrongdoing; probably an extreme narcissist. Contradictorily, he may even have a distaste for other abusers. This is because he understands right and wrong, maybe even has some semblance of a moral conscience, yet is constantly projecting his own twisted selfish perceptions onto everything he does and everyone he interacts with. We don't know much about his father, so it's also possible he witnessed the abuse of his mother in which case he had a defense mechanism to mirror. Again, it's also possible his father or mother themselves abused him, which would only amplify this anger and resentment.

All of this sort of falls apart when you consider the fact that the player can choose wildly different routes for different women. But, I'll just chalk this up to a sacrifice on the part of the author's sanity towards the benefit of more player choice :alien:. After all, the player isn't playing from what they think the character Guy should do, but from what they want to do at any given moment. Thx for attending my TED talk, etc.

PS: if anywhere in this wall it sounds like I know what I'm talking about, remember this: I do not. :p
 

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Is the Vanilla version something different than the last version we had ? Because my first time playing this game was 4.0 and I don't remember it being "vanilla" version, not sure though.
 
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