VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [S1 v0.85c] [NeonGhosts]

[KhaiFirst]

oh reMilk... while main story not even done yet... good story tho

 

[HissingPossum45]

I've actually talked about this before though, and I do feel kinda bad about it. It was entirely accidental/coincidental. I'm a big comic book dork, and for Lucien I was channeling some of Lucifer, from Mike Carey's long-running Vertigo title

In the game if I remember correctly, Lucien was blind in 1 eye right?

Because if that is the case, Lucien is probably a reference to Lucian Greaves who is the spokesperson and a founding member of the Satanic Temple in the US.



He tends to be kind of a contrarian, as well as one of the key public speakers for the Satanic Temple in the states.. I kind of want to see how his role develops as the story progresses.

 

[Jack Townsend]

In the game if I remember correctly, Lucien was blind in 1 eye right?

Because if that is the case, Lucien is probably a reference to Lucian Greaves who is the spokesperson and a founding member of the Satanic Temple in the US.

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He tends to be kind of a contrarian, as well as one of the key public speakers for the Satanic Temple in the states.. I kind of want to see how his role develops as the story progresses.

Never thought I'd see Abby Philipps on a porn site.

 

[HissingPossum45]

Never thought I'd see Abby Philipps on a porn site.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Obviously taste is subjective, but I would argue the game went from focusing on the MC and how his decisions affected those around him, to focusing on Lucien and how the MC measures up to him. The fact that Chapter 10 was bookended with a newly introduced, likable character purely to play up the dramatic irony as she inadvertently falls into Lucien's clutches shows just how big a presence Lucien has become overnight.

I know Neon believes a hero is only as good as his villain, but I think he's taking that metaphor way too literally. Prior to Lucien, the MC was effectively his own villain because of how different the story was depending on whether he broke bad rather than becoming a genuine philanthropist. Now it's about how he deals with our resident supervillain. The fact that Lucien's introduction is so tightly tied into Risa's personal storyline just makes it feel that much more intrusive on what used to be the MC's story.

Personally, I consider this change both discordant with the early game and and entirely unwelcome. You and many other disagree, which is certainly your prerogative. But that doesn't invalidate our reasoning for disliking the change.

I don't see the focus having shifted. You're still obviously making moral decisions about the LIs (and others, but mainly the LIs), that hasn't changed. The only thing that's happened is the plot has gotten more complexity and depth. Have to keep in mind that the amount of time it takes to make the game is a LOT longer than the amount of time it takes to play. The amount of content so far, while very impressive, is something a player could easily get through in 1-2 days. How would that feel to the player? It would feel like things are just getting started, almost like a... narrative setup or something. But for all of us, who have been playing it in chunks for months if not years, it can be deceiving and feel like we've already established everything that the game will or should entail. I think that's actually the main issue going on with regulars here that perceive a big (unwelcome) shift, just my two cents.

Anyways, personally, I like seeing guys duke it out, especially bad guys which is what I'm looking forward to on the dark route. Is it something I'd ask for in my VN? Personally, no, mostly because I play them for hanky panky more than a narrative experience. But, having said that, this game has really surprised me how receptive I am to a compelling story even if I'm trying to jerk my gherkin. And I think the game does a very, very good job of not getting in the way of that kind of player. Most other games that try to pull it off tend to get really annoying really fast, for whatever reason; pacing, dialogue, overuse of tropes, shit characters, boring scenes, and so on. I'm glad this one has avoided that so far.

I realize others disagree, but that's not what I'm pushing back on; if you're going to say the game is objectively flawed without offering a solid reason, or if you're going to make claims that just aren't true, like that the game isn't foreshadowing, then the argument is already invalidated and just waiting for someone to point it out. I mean, we've all done it; I'm all too aware of my own poor arguments I've made over the years and I'm all too aware of the people that have pointed it out.. sometimes really rudely.

 

[DETROIT123_io]

Is MC the not the bad guy anymore ? As people is talking about a A bad guy in the recent chapters . Does MC get cucked and soft on his dark path?

 

[DETROIT123_io]

And Does this game have music?

 

[NewTricks]

Is MC the not the bad guy anymore ? As people is talking about a A bad guy in the recent chapters . Does MC get cucked and soft on his dark path?

LOL no. The dark path is still a dark path, and this isn't an NTR game. It is only notable that there is a toned-down version on Patreon and a full version for Subscribestar.

 

[Joshy92]

Imagine if Neon puts an achievement in the steam version and to get it we can't have sex with any of the main LI

Such an evil thing but I would have to try and get it.

 

[Jarulf]

Imagine if Neon puts an achievement in the steam version and to get it we can't have sex with any of the main LI

Such an evil thing but I would have to try and get it.

Good thing I never pay attention to achievements on Steam, if he does.

 

[soldano]

What happened ? Is this game not dark anymore ? What do you mean by tonal shifts and what narrative changes was done? I am coming to this game after a long time , Please get me up to date

Well, you should judge for yourself. In some ways, it has even darker plots, but with a different tone than it had at the beginning.
The biggest change is the remake of Chapter 1. But I don't want to sway your opinion. Play it and judge for yourself.

 

[DETROIT123_io]

Well, you should judge for yourself. In some ways, it has even darker plots, but with a different tone than it had at the beginning.
The biggest change is the remake of Chapter 1. But I don't want to sway your opinion. Play it and judge for yourself.

Please dm me what you mean by different tone

 

[tanrgith]

not a fan of the remake stuff so far, feels like it's a lot of extra bloat to the opening that isn't needed, and also thought the original premise of her showing up specifically to try and get money from you, and then allowing you to choose how to deal with that was a more interesting approach

 

[Ciaran8023]

So, I took the time and decided to give Ashe a go for once and.. man she really does grow on you, goddamnit.
Now I have to have ANOTHER group of saves for her, fuck sake.

 

[#1 Cheek Clapper]

This guy is still doing remakes?

 

[Pixillin']

This guy is still doing remakes?

 

[OWSam000]

How to play the game by sequence? Play chapter 1 remake then play the version 0.72? Will the remake save transfer the current version?

 

[Pixillin']

How to play the game by sequence? Play chapter 1 remake then play the version 0.72? Will the remake save transfer the current version?

I'd just wait if I were you. I mean, if you really want to play you can fuck around and check different paths but we're either getting a full Ch 1 - 10 in June or a Ch 1-11 in late July/early August and you'll have to start over anyway. The saves from the old game won't transfer and there will be some new material (new renders, scenes and dialogue) in Ch 1 - 10 regardless.

 

[armond]

I'd just wait if I were you. I mean, if you really want to play you can fuck around and check different paths but we're either getting a full Ch 1 - 10 in June or a Ch 1-11 in late July/early August and you'll have to start over anyway. The saves from the old game won't transfer and there will be some new material (new renders, scenes and dialogue) in Ch 1 - 10 regardless.

Just to be realistic, not throwing shade, the world is chaotic, I would expect late September if I'm being optimistic

 

[Wall Of Text]

Remade 1-10 sometime in June (I'd assume with the current information available) and 1-11 sometime Septemberish (I'd assume with all currently available information, and the safe assumption that most devs tend to run a bit behind their own projections)