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I played that before the Remaster so I don't remember the combo pretty well, but iirc it wasn't a "Oh, my Oni-chan! <3" type of reunion. She acted like a brat and Guy was annoyed by her shenanigans.
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Well, when they realize they're jailed together they have literally single line of reaction, and it's identical for both of them: "Oh, fuck me." And then the chapter would end.
You can interpret the reaction in many ways, really. E.g. for Cassie it may very well be that the person she came to visit and who could potentially bail her out turns up literally in the next cell. Or acting like a brat (or, more precisely, acting exactly like Guy does) is her regular behavior, something Guy has noted himself. For Guy similarly, it's hardly strange that he wouldn't be pleased to find out first thing his little sister did after coming to town was getting herself arrested. But none of that has to reflect on the general attitude they have for each other -- i.e. Guy appears upset with Cassie at the moment, but we can clearly see earlier in the game that this isn't how he thinks of her by default.
So, like you said and i agreed, any talk how Cassie may feel about Guy is very much just writing fanfiction at this point.
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Man, what I would love to happen here, is Cassie makes a move, kisses Ashe, she gets caught in the moment, maybe we catch a quick glance, then Ashe regains her composure, stopping it pretty quick, setting up our future fun together.
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It needs to be added to the first post at this point
Make sure you download Friends in Need, not Friends Indeed (which is the patreon friendly version)
Then the dark dark stuff, download the patch and put it in your game folder
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Technically how to install the patch and describing the Patreon version are both in the OP already but you could literally make a 2 minute video describing what to do and people would still get lost.
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I wasn't lost on the instructions, the previous conversation just confused me, it seemed that people were talking about how neonghosts was somehow forced into removing the dark path because of some australians. If that's not the case however then I'm glad.
NeonGhosts just a question, i'm finally getting around playing the remainder of the remake, and there's this bit in Brittani's photoshoot:
The thing is, when it comes to other characters, the game sets/uses relationship points this low to indicate that MC and character in question are on bad terms. However, this branch happens if you have 12+ points with Brittani and get fully consensual and enthusiastic boob job from her, with no indication whatsoever afterwards that she suddenly changes her mind about how she views MC.
I can't check if it's the same in the original build of a game, so just wondering if this is some sort of a bug/mistake/oversight, that might bite the player in the ass when the rest of the episodes gets ported and maybe game does the bript check to determine her behavior around the MC.
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"Giving you a little wave, the young woman departs."
bri"See ya, [MC]."
mc"Yeah.. See ya, Brittani."
$ brirel = 1 # fwb - some regret
$ jarel = 1 # hates you
$ bript = 5I can't check if it's the same in the original build of a game, so just wondering if this is some sort of a bug/mistake/oversight, that might bite the player in the ass when the rest of the episodes gets ported and maybe game does the bript check to determine her behavior around the MC.
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I thought the regret was due to her getting "caught" by Jaime at the end. Not that he's justified but he comes back, hears her messing around with Guy, and looks defeated before storming out. Brittani looks dejected but doesn't take it out on Guy.
I'm not referring to the regret comment, though. It's the 8-10+ points relationship drop with Guy that doesn't seem to make sense, because in all other instances to get this sort of reaction from a girl Guy needs to come barely shy of outright rape, and it causes the girl to stay away as far from him as possible and treat him (quite rightfully) as a devil incarnate going forward.
I just can't figure out what's the supposed point in setting such low value, which is why it made me wonder if it's not a coding mistake, like e.g. placing it in wrong branch instead of one which does come close to a rape, or one where Guy is being overly abrasive and pushy.
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The entire direction of the game seems to be moving in the direction of retconning events to be more in favor of a good guy path with dark or grey punishing the player more than guy being punished. It's slowly degrading the narrative strength the game used to have in my eyes.
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Nah, it’s working as desired. As was pointed out, Brittani leaves that encounter feeling shitty about herself, and by extension, Guy. In later encounters with the player (at the store and Chesty Cheetahs) she’s markedly cooler on him than if they didn’t fool around. That doesn’t mean it’s permanent or anything. Saying the right thing next time could make that score jump right back to a neutral score of 10, as they put the awkwardness behind them.
hope u can of piece of Brittany mom too! Please pretty please
we will never have enough MILF lolOh, that's weird. I don't really remember her acting less friendly in those scenes in the original version, but then i don't think i've ever checked the script for alternatives, because their interactions already seemed friendly enough (at least for a public space and/or with her harpy of a mom hovering right next to them) and it didn't really occur to me she could be even more forthcoming. In any case good to know, and thank you for clarifying that~
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I know at the store, with no boojob, she may be a bit chiller, she even lifts her shirt for you, in like a teasing way. As for Chesty interaction, I don't remember any difference, it has been a while, but just can't remember, really anything different.
I feel like the changes in her attitude and some things are very minor from what I remember, not really noticeable. She honestly acts pretty friendly in both, at least to me, with or without boobjob.
So I feel like that choice at the photoshoot, won't really have a big impact for any particular Brittani path.
Fooling around with Brittani in that exact moment is basically taking advantage of her being depressed and vulnerable. It's not a big surprise she'd feel bad after that, although as Neon says it seems like it's not a fatal thing that can't be fixed later. If you don't fool around with her, it seems like you get kind of the opposite thing, where she's a little upset in the moment but later realizes you were trying to be kind to her.
As for the stuff about Australians, since it seems like some people haven't heard, there's a group of right-wing religious nutcases called "Collective Shout" from Australia that are trying to get rid of pornography as well as gay/lesbian/transgender content in games and also things like rap music because why not. They made a big fuss about the worst games they could get their hands on and put pressure on payment processors, who then put pressure on Steam and Itch.io to drop all porn games. There's a lot of back and forth going on about that right now. So a lot of adult creators are feeling the heat and trying to just keep their heads down and hope things just go back to normal, or whatever passes for normal these days. It's probably best not to make a big fuss about content like incest or rape or even coercion or blackmail in games at this time because people are just trying to avoid being targets. That doesn't mean that kind of content is going to disappear from all games everywhere, just that people are not going to necessarily draw attention to it because it's hard to fight this kind of fight if you can't make any money from the work you do.
As for the stuff about Australians, since it seems like some people haven't heard, there's a group of right-wing religious nutcases called "Collective Shout" from Australia that are trying to get rid of pornography as well as gay/lesbian/transgender content in games and also things like rap music because why not. They made a big fuss about the worst games they could get their hands on and put pressure on payment processors, who then put pressure on Steam and Itch.io to drop all porn games. There's a lot of back and forth going on about that right now. So a lot of adult creators are feeling the heat and trying to just keep their heads down and hope things just go back to normal, or whatever passes for normal these days. It's probably best not to make a big fuss about content like incest or rape or even coercion or blackmail in games at this time because people are just trying to avoid being targets. That doesn't mean that kind of content is going to disappear from all games everywhere, just that people are not going to necessarily draw attention to it because it's hard to fight this kind of fight if you can't make any money from the work you do.
It's actually something that makes relatively little sense to me, given the setup and what we've seen of Brittani so far.
* during the first interaction with Brittani, we can see that she doesn't exactly get hung up over her previous choices that could be considered mistakes -- when asked if she'd break up with Jamie now that she knows he was still with Gabby when Brittani and Jamie hooked up first, she's basically "no, what's done is done and it wouldn't change anything".
* when Guy wakes up after the punch, Brittani explicitly tells him that at this point she considers herself single, because per her words, she doesn't want to date guys who get violent
* then, after fairly long consideration, she makes a decision to make a move on Guy. She does not show any signs of doing it out of being depressed, but out of gratitude for how Guy has acted towards her, which was, again per her own words, something no one has done for her before
And then i'm supposed to suddenly believe this girl who already mentally kicked her shitty excuse of a boyfriend to a curb and who up to this point displayed nothing but high emotional resilience, is suddenly completely devastated because the very same guy she, per her own statement, didn't want to have anything to do with anymore, who scared the shit out of her with his violence, who is a known cheater himself --given he was more than ready to hook up with her while still together with Gabby-- and who was her boyfriend for whole 1-2 months tops, had the gall to call her a "whore" for making a move on someone else after he got already dumped? And stormed out as if he was wronged here? Honestly, it'd be much more believable if she dished him out more of that Goth Brittani treatment in return, for all the gall and stupidity he's expressed throughout. Because Jamie is absolutely in no position to cast any sort of moral judgments, and Brittani is more than enough smart to know this, or let it get to her like that given the actual circumstances.
This reaction we see instead, this feels like something you'd far sooner see from Gabby, given how both sensitive and explosive she's shown herself be.
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I agree that Brittani was shown in the previous interaction to be very "well what happened happened" in regards to Gabby. It's true that she told Guy she was done with Jaime and seemed to enjoy the decision she made afterwards to go further with Guy.
After that though, I don't necessarily disagree but think you're making it out to be a much bigger deal than it is. She sees Jaime, who came back, looking defeated, and he calls her a whore. She doesn't really have a comeback for this since in her mind, at the time, she probably feels like one, immediately doing something lewd with Guy after casting Jaime off minutes earlier. So it's a shock to her system and there's regret. She doesn't snap at Guy or take it out on him, it's just awkward after that point and the next time they meet up (compared to if you don't do anything lewd with her and she's more playful).
Neon's already said it's not that big of a deal. I certainly don't see a "completely devastated" Brittani.