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Meabe37
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Hm, that a bit concerning to me. It mean we are half way through the game and most girls don't even have a beginning of real relationship (or even a sexy time) they are like just kinda 2, Ash and Nikki... And it's not a lot either imo. Just worrying that by the end of the game, the amount of content for the relationships will feel a bit unsatisfying, not to mention the amount of lewd times. Especially given the high numbers of LIs...
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Well it's not set in stone, I only think NG said that a while ago. I could be wrong. I'm sure he'll say next time he's here so we know for sure.Hm, that a bit concerning to me. It mean we are half way through the game and most girls don't even have a beginning of real relationship (or even a sexy time) they are like just kinda 2, Ash and Nikki... And it's not a lot either imo. Just worrying that by the end of the game, the amount of content for the relationships will feel a bit unsatisfying, not to mention the amount of lewd times. Especially given the high numbers of LIs...
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Plus, the fact that the game ends after Season 2 doesn't mean Season 2 will be equal in content's density to Season 1. The start of a story needs to establish relationships, eventual history between characters, set the tone, etc. The more you advance in a story the more...densely it can be packed, so to speak. I mean that there is more room for "action" in later chapters than there is at the start of a story. I wouldn't worry too much but then again, I never do.
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At the end of the day it's fine. Could be just a case of "Always wanting more of what's good". The game is great and i'm sure it will continues to be great no matter what. And i probably just played to much VNs who end or will end with an amount of content i deem below what should be the minimum for each girls individually. Hence why i'm "worry" . We'll see.
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Quick FYI: I just dropped the teaser build for October, containing 1250 images. It’s still missing the final scene, but I think I’ll have an alpha available by next weekend.
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What about the last chapter of season 1? Is it going to drop with the new chapter or before?
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Just to nitpick a little, Mason has had a bunch of content added in recent patches. And it's great content. ♥
Hmm, I wonder if Mason would be into getting all dolled up as a bride for our wedding or whether he'd prefer a nice suit.
Assuming there will be a wedding. There better be!
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I was literally just giving a factual description of the required steps to get the Ashe alleyway scene. That's it. I can be pretty antagonistic towards people making insane takes on the game, but this post was just me being helpful.
I am curious on how Neon will write the wincest, as it's firstly the age difference between the 2 siblings is pretty big. And secondly especially if our dude is on a dark path it's gonna be wild.
I'll just provide some suggestions:
1) Nice guy path- Sister takes the initiative, probably has a hidden brocomplex
2) Corruption path- Guy takes the lead, but it's mutual. Maybe guy blackmails her or something.
3) Dark Path- This I recommend should continue from the blackmail route, from where you can either diverge into corruption route, if you wanna turn the blackmail into genuine attraction, or the other one is Guy just being a full on controling, obsessive freak. And he justifies it as "his love" for her. I don't think it should just be "oh she is hot that's why I do all that", but like make it a dark obsession, kinda like a male yandere or something, where he is controlling and obsessive over her.
I'll just provide some suggestions:
1) Nice guy path- Sister takes the initiative, probably has a hidden brocomplex
2) Corruption path- Guy takes the lead, but it's mutual. Maybe guy blackmails her or something.
3) Dark Path- This I recommend should continue from the blackmail route, from where you can either diverge into corruption route, if you wanna turn the blackmail into genuine attraction, or the other one is Guy just being a full on controling, obsessive freak. And he justifies it as "his love" for her. I don't think it should just be "oh she is hot that's why I do all that", but like make it a dark obsession, kinda like a male yandere or something, where he is controlling and obsessive over her.
I'm not sure exactly when this game was started, but half-way completion isn't scary when we have this much content after 2-4 years of development. There's still a lot to go!
And when that time comes, sure it'll be bittersweet and we'll have to say goodbye to some characters. But, hey, we won't have to say bye to Neon, he'll probably want to continue making VNs, even if they're smaller and have fewer characters. If we're lucky, he might even make some additional add-on content for FiN.
I personally hate when VNs or TV series go on forever only until they stop making money, rather than respecting the natural end of the story (if they even have much of a story). I think it's something to be excited about rather than dread.
And when that time comes, sure it'll be bittersweet and we'll have to say goodbye to some characters. But, hey, we won't have to say bye to Neon, he'll probably want to continue making VNs, even if they're smaller and have fewer characters. If we're lucky, he might even make some additional add-on content for FiN.
I personally hate when VNs or TV series go on forever only until they stop making money, rather than respecting the natural end of the story (if they even have much of a story). I think it's something to be excited about rather than dread.
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Neon has suggested he doesn't know how to do the nice guy path in a way he likes, so it may not happen in the main game (though there maybe some DLC of absurdities - maybe). This isn't set in stone, but if he can't find a way he is happy with, he shouldn't do it, in the opinion of his Discord (by and large, with some being unhappy about it, but still, his show, his call). But he has said any dark version will be very close to the end of the game, so if the light path were to happen at the same time, he has a lot of time to figure it out, if he wants to.
Corruption could go any number of ways, including Cassie instigating and corrupting Guy. Probably the most interesting, and most varied possibilities. Blackmail would really be here, on the darker corruption path rather than the lighter one. On the lighter corruption path, he bribes her into it, on the dark corruption path he blackmails her over something.
Dark dark guy has an impulsive cruel streak which would absolutely not bother having any "love" motive. If you haven't played the sneak peaks, you haven't really met Cassie yet, but she is absolutely the kind of brat who could drive a cruel, violent, and impulsive asshole like Dark dark guy to just bend her arm behind her back, force her to bend over the kitchen table, and rape her. No preamble, no pretending it was out of love, just, "see what you get when you pull shit like that?" The only justification he'll need is, "she keeps pissing me off, I gotta show her who's boss, and my dick is hard."
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Well, considering there's multiple flavors of corruption/domination routes, and multiple flavors of romance (loving vs toxic), it only makes perfect sense for dark route to have multiple flavors. And it already does, really; for example, during Ashe's date on her dark route, MC can apologize and feel remorseful, albeit in his own psychopathic version of it. Or he can be lenient or fuck with her expectations (however you interpret his motives in the scene) by just letting her leave right away. Or he can drug her and do his thing. Or he can just brutally rape her again like he did in the alley.
So, personally, I think a dark psycho-love route could easily fit in, especially if it focuses on control and the selfish whims of Guy as Gormius mentioned. Psychopaths and sadists can still feel love, it's just the way they show or express it is obviously a very alien aberration of it compared to the rest of us.
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Totally fair, but one of them is sure being set up to be a pure violence version. She is SUCH a brat, and there is no way the darkest guy isn't going to decide to punish her for her behavior.
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I’m going to try to get it out a bit before. I've just been trying to make as much forward progress on the new chapter as possible at the moment. It might seem weird, but when I feel like I'm in a good rhythm, whether it's writing, coding, or doing the art, it's very hard to switch gears. It tends to make me mentally stall out for a couple days as I ease back into one task or another.
A while back I actually did a rundown of how many love interests' stories have been advanced, how many have had nude, lewd, and full sex scenes, etc. And honestly, most are pretty well on their way. The outliers are Viola (a shy virgin), Madison (a married woman), Carolina (a stoic single mom), Pepper (a very guarded girl), and Alex (who just hasn't been around much.)Just to nitpick a little, Mason has had a bunch of content added in recent patches. And it's great content. ♥
Hmm, I wonder if Mason would be into getting all dolled up as a bride for our wedding or whether he'd prefer a nice suit.
Nicki, Ashe, Mason, and Risa have all had a full gamut of nude and lewd scenes. Gabby's is coming in the next update, Britt's in the one after that, and Carolina's in the one after that. Nicki will give you another chance to be her boyfriend, if you missed it. Ashe, Gabby, and Mason will be doing the same. So, in terms of the relationships advancing, and the characters' individual stories advancing.. I think I'm doing alright, so far.
That said, I'm honestly not super interested in giving every single love interest a super detailed love story. As you'll see in the upcoming chapter, I use a montage to handwave some offscreen relationship development, and let readers fill in the gaps a bit. It's just not super feasible (or interesting, in my opinion..) to dwell on every little moment in a relationship. Instead I want to give every love interest a robust sex scene, a few cute moments, and an ending that leaves you with the warm fuzzies. And I want to work on advancing the micro and macro plots with each update.
I'm also trying to leave little chronological gaps between chapters, so I can fill them in with more mini-sodes later. For instance, if you're on Gabby's romance path, this chapter ends with you and her together in bed. The next chapter picks up a week later, and you're shown that you've been fucking like rabbits all week, while enjoying dates on the sly. That gives me a gap of a week, where I could go back and add an event with a love interest.
My biggest problem with how I structured Season 1 was that I didn't have those gaps in there. Things basically went day-to-day, and it made the events of the story feel hyper-compressed, and didn't really allow me to go, "Aaaand during this gap, you an Gabby were sneaking around and making out. Aaaaand during this one you took Nicki on a date. Aaaand during this one you took Jun to a gangbang. Aaaand.."
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I'm gonna shove my nose alllllll the waaaay up his aaasss Morty. And imma like it