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TessaXYZ

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Wow a game with a futa protagonist after so long and the first thing the Developer focuses on is implementing mind numbing puzzles to unlock scenes. Just amazing. And its not just a simple puzzle no it has to extra complicated bullshit just to unlock one scene. Bravo. Game developer barely make Futa Protagonist games and the one that comes along which is a VN type game and not even Sandbox type has complicated puzzles implemented from the very start just to unlock scenes.
I'm sorry you feel this way. These puzzles are (1) optional challenges, and (2) have provided solutions so you can choose whether or not to play the game or just see the story. We've all played loads of games with no interactivity, or games with horrible sandbox elements that ruin the story, etc. I figured it was time to provide something fresh, for those **who want it**. And yes, that's on top of putting a ton of effort into good renders, a well-written story, good music and sound effects, etc. None of that has to be ruined because you don't like the puzzles, since I literally provide multiple avenues for avoiding doing the puzzles for those who don't want to do them.

I might look at putting a "show solution" button in-game, but I'm sorry you didn't enjoy this feature. I hope you reconsider in the future.
 
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Should there be a spell to recite? A chant? :ROFLMAO:
Chant this ancient litany:

First place a black mirror in front of the magic circle of Welsh Sea Salt, then upon sheepskin parchment draw with thine own blood a muscle girl and place this in the centre of the circle. Inscribe with salt, blood or pen around the edges of the magic circle and inbetween candles made from sheep fat the following words in a circular shape: Ewe, Dragon, Rwy'n hoffi trenau & Charlotte Church.

Then with the muscle girl depicted and in front of you sitting in the centre of the magic circle, stare into the black mirror and recite 3x:

"Ava, lady of clunge I bid thee appear!"

Then recite the chorus once:

(Chorus)

Hubble bubble Welshcake and Sheep.
Summon she who doth makes girls hole weak.
Hubble bubble, the dildo is double.
Summon the ginger demon of trouble.

Then begin again with the recitation of "Ava...." 3 times and the chorus once afterwards. Do this for a total of 13 times and you will begin to see the room fill with smoke from the candles, a faint wind shall build up, and the scent of pussy juice and Haagen Dazs ice-cream will permeate the room.

Then you may make any supplication or conversation you so wish. Be aware this fiery demon is apt not to depart the room upon the caster giving the license to depart unless she be supplicated with Chocolate.
 
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Alucard421

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You know you could just look for the answers of the puzzles in the first post of this thread, right?
Whats the point? The game starts and we already have to look for help. Atleast if it had been lets say mid to end portion of game, one can understand. But the game started and looking for help for first hurdle. ANd it is not even a sandbox game. Its a VN game. based on decisions. WHy there are puzzles just to unlock content? If from the first release the Developer is locking content behind puzzles( complicated ones) just to showcase their puzzle making abilities, why bother for a erotic game. They should focus on a proper puzzle game.
 

TessaXYZ

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... If from the first release the Developer is locking content behind puzzles( complicated ones) just to showcase their puzzle making abilities, why bother for a erotic game. They should focus on a proper puzzle game.
I hate to sound like a broken record, but it's not really locked. I'm giving the answers away to everyone who wants to use them to skip doing the puzzle themselves.

As to why I'm developing an erotic/puzzle game... well, the best things in life come in pairs! But really, it's something I'm passionate about, and I'm open to suggestions about how to improve this for everyone. Would you be less upset if I provided the hints and solutions in-game?
 

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I'm sorry you feel this way. These puzzles are (1) optional challenges, and (2) have provided solutions so you can choose whether or not to play the game or just see the story. We've all played loads of games with no interactivity, or games with horrible sandbox elements that ruin the story, etc. I figured it was time to provide something fresh, for those **who want it**. And yes, that's on top of putting a ton of effort into good renders, a well-written story, good music and sound effects, etc. None of that has to be ruined because you don't like the puzzles, since I literally provide multiple avenues for avoiding doing the puzzles for those who don't want to do them.

I might look at putting a "show solution" button in-game, but I'm sorry you didn't enjoy this feature. I hope you reconsider in the future.
Well the game starts and the first daydream scene is locked behind a puzzle. How that is good game design I don't know? Or maybe it is? Just like Souls borne games put a tough boss fight to check who has the patience to play their games, maybe the Developer of this game has put the puzzle to remove idiots like me from ever trying out the game? I wouldn't have regretted if it had been a Male protagonist game. They are dime a dozen. I regret it because it a is a Futa protagonist game with Futa on female content and I was fully dissuaded from ever trying out the game.,
 

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I assume you looked at the in-game tutorial? Tutorial #2 covers this rule. In that puzzle, there is a "2" arrow clue in a column. That means 2 out of the 3 sub-regions that inhabit that column are highlighted, and the third one is *not* highlighted.
Yes, but my question is "what is a column" because for example in this one

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The 4 arrow I get, because there are 4 areas painted green, but the arrow with the 1 overlaps with the 4 one, so there my brain goes numb.
 

TessaXYZ

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Well the game starts and the first daydream scene is locked behind a puzzle. How that is good game design I don't know? Or maybe it is? Just like Souls borne games put a tough boss fight to check who has the patience to play their games, maybe the Developer of this game has put the puzzle to remove idiots like me from ever trying out the game? I wouldn't have regretted if it had been a Male protagonist game. They are dime a dozen. I regret it because it a is a Futa protagonist game with Futa on female content and I was fully dissuaded from ever trying out the game.,
For the record, I am the dev. I'm open to suggestions.
 

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This game has a lot going for it all the women are beautiful and the MC is one of the most beautiful futa's I've seen in any game but then bam! I run into the super shitty mini game that can't even be skipped because we will lose out on the bonus scene.

I came up with my own solution of fixing the problem but still making it mandatory to play them to get the bonus scene is a shitty thing to do. Locking sex scenes behind a mini game is a shitty thing to do, anyway I think about it really.
 

TessaXYZ

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Yes, but my question is "what is a column" because for example in this one

The 4 arrow I get, because there are 4 areas painted green, but the arrow with the 1 overlaps with the 4 one, so there my brain goes numb.
The 4 and 1 clues are independent of each other. Look horizontally from the 4 clue, you can see there are four sub-regions with highlighted cells. Similarly, look vertically from the 1 clue, you can see there is only 1 subregion with highlighted cells.
 
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Alucard421

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I hate to sound like a broken record, but it's not really locked. I'm giving the answers away to everyone who wants to use them to skip doing the puzzle themselves.

As to why I'm developing an erotic/puzzle game... well, the best things in life come in pairs! But really, it's something I'm passionate about, and I'm open to suggestions about how to improve this for everyone. Would you be less upset if I provided the hints and solutions in-game?
Do people immediately go to help forum the moment they start a game? They don't right. They try out the game for a few hours before struggling and then they go for help. But the first release of game already had people searching for help, even if the Developer provides it. Huh anyway, good luck for your game. Wish your game becomes popular. Futa protagonists game are rare as it is. May your game grow well. Its a regret I won't be able to play it.
 

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This game has a lot going for it all the women are beautiful and the MC is one of the most beautiful futa's I've seen in any game but then bam! I run into the super shitty mini game that can't even be skipped because we will lose out on the bonus scene.

I came up with my own solution of fixing the problem but still making it mandatory to play them to get the bonus scene is a shitty thing to do. Locking sex scenes behind a mini game is a shitty thing to do, anyway I think about it really.
I'm curious what you mean by your own solution. I provide the answers in the OP for anyone who wants them.
 

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That was the point........

It was a dumb comment.......

THAT'S WHAT I DO.

Damn but some of you just suck the fun out of my job and make me go all serious. I hate going all serious.
Don't let them steal your joy, dear friend. As for me... my joy has already deflated for another reason...

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Edit: After a bit of Orange Kush to cool my jets and conversing with the dev here in forum, I was pleasantly surprised to see that a version requiring no puzzle solving will be available shortly! Huzzah!:cool:(y)

Humble apologies to you, Ava, to the others in forum and the dev as well. I rambled on a nasty rant earlier which was honest but rather aggressive. So, I stashed it under a spoiler and edited in a new updated comment. I really do want to love this title. Apologies for over reacting, y'all. Have a great day.

Love you, Ava. See you around the ballpark, player.:devilish:(y)
Adventure ever on dear friend, Phat:cool:(y)
 
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Wow a game with a futa protagonist after so long and the first thing the Developer focuses on is implementing mind numbing puzzles to unlock scenes. Just amazing. And its not just a simple puzzle no it has to extra complicated bullshit just to unlock one scene. Bravo. Game developer barely make Futa Protagonist games and the one that comes along which is a VN type game and not even Sandbox type has complicated puzzles implemented from the very start just to unlock scenes.
Worst puzzle ever. Why puzzles in the first place?
 

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TessaXYZ looking at the feedback, firstly don't take what they say personally, secondly they could have simply said "Can you make the puzzles skippable?" and thirdly, for those that do want puzzle AND those that don't, perhaps a variable in the game code can be used to make two difficulties: Normal, for those that want puzzles, and Easy, for those that want to skip puzzles i.e. they don't come up at all?
 

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Don't let them steal your joy, dear friend. As for me... my joy has already deflated for another reason...

I DL'd and tried Futagenesis Unveiled for the gorgeous renders but I absolutely HATE all of this puzzle shite! That is why I no longer play RPGM titles, I HATE the fucking puzzles! I play AVN's for sexy good times and hopefully an interesting story to go with that. Choices and multiple paths are also cool. Puzzles SUCK!!! FUCK puzzles! Making me stop and think ruins my immersion in the story and blows a perfectly good fap! Whoever thought locking daydreams behind puzzles was a good idea should have their PC taken away and banned from gaming until they repent of their ignorance!

The renders in this game are amazing! IDK about the story yet because it is too early to tell and every time I get two steps forward another fucking puzzle pops up! Fuck that shit! I already deleted this one, Ava. I really hate these puzzles that much! I was actually hopeful for another cool futa protagonist title to add to my small but growing collection, mais non. This isn't just a puzzle here and there, it's EVERY SCENE! Fuck that, fuck that, fuck that and you know what? FUCK THAT!

This is supposed to be an AVN title in Ren'Py, not a Unity or RPGM title. I expect puzzles in those engines. That is why I seldom play Unity titles and no longer even bother looking at RPGM titles.

Humble apologies to you, Ava, and to the others in forum as well. I swear on rare occasion, sure. But, puzzles, especially totally confusing and frustrating puzzles, just burn my britches. Word to the wise. That was NOT an invitation for anyone to attempt to explain the puzzles. Unless there is an option to automatically solve the puzzles to reveal the daydream scenes, I will NOT return. Hoping the author sees this and repents of these evil games within the game. Puzzles just suck in this kind of title and do not belong. If not the dev, maybe a judicious modder can create a way to auto reveal the locked scenes when skipping... That is STILL a ton of skipping required! What a let down!

Love you, Ava, I'm out of here. See you around the ballpark, player.:devilish:(y)
Adventure ever on dear friend, Phat:cool:(y)
I'm hearing you loud and clear. I'm going to heavily consider making the SKIP button just skip the puzzle, and not the bonus scene. I hope you reconsider, since I've been putting a ton of effort into every part of this game, and want it to be something truly special!
 

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TessaXYZ looking at the feedback, firstly don't take what they say personally, secondly they could have simply said "Can you make the puzzles skippable?" and thirdly, for those that do want puzzle AND those that don't, perhaps a variable in the game code can be used to make two difficulties: Normal, for those that want puzzles, and Easy, for those that want to skip puzzles i.e. they don't come up at all?
This is a great suggestion! I may indeed go this route.

Edit: I went this route as of v0.03.
 
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Alucard421

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Worst puzzle ever. Why puzzles in the first place?
Who knows? I thought VN game works on decisions? But somehow now it has to include complicated puzles. And that to from the very start of the game. Well its developer's choice though. They are the creator. I wish them well for Futa protagonist games are rare. Just have a regret that I won't be able to play it at all.
 
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Who knows? I thought VN game works on decisions? But somehow now it has to include complicated puzles. And that to from the very start of the game. Well its developer's choice though. They are the creator. I wish them well for Futa protagonist games are rare. Just have a regret that I won't be able to play it at all.
Maybe backlash will be too great to force non-puzzle version or maybe mod that removes them idk
 
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