RPGM Completed Futanari and Byuru Byuru Semen-Squeezing Dungeon [v1.1] [pernio's futanari]

[Repreive]

Actually biologically, they are mutally exclusive. Because scrotum and labia are from the same organ. Futanaris develop their clit + surrounding glands into penis. But if they also develop the labia to become scrotum and close up the vagina, then you won't have open vagina.

Testicles are also mutally exclusive with eggs. So, futanaris with testicles = no eggs to give birth. So non-gay have no interest in them.

This... Is the dumbest thing I have ever read.

 

[LeakCode]

This... Is the dumbest thing I have ever read.

Then study a bit of biology. In particular the development of the reproductive system.

Sexual organs develop from intermediate mesoderm into different male and female counterparts. They develop into different parts depending on hormones.

Both the penis and the clit develop from mesodermal tissue in the phallus. All embyros only have one set of these sexual organs to develop from.The phallus can only develop into one set of these not 2 for example. Therefore, they are mutally exclusive.

The only people with 2 sets of organs are those conjoined twins with connected bodies, born from two nucleu joined together.

That's sexual development disorders. It is not what futanari are.

Futanari means true hermaphrodism. True hermaphrodism is one specific category of intersex.

 

[ViviX12]

Then study a bit of biology. In particular the development of the reproductive system.

Sexual organs develop from intermediate mesoderm into different male and female counterparts. They develop into different parts depending on hormones.

Both the penis and the clit develop from mesodermal tissue in the phallus. All embyros only have one set of these sexual organs to develop from.The phallus can only develop into one set of these not 2 for example. Therefore, they are mutally exclusive.

The only people with 2 sets of organs are those conjoined twins with connected bodies, born from two nucleu joined together.


Futanari means true hermaphrodism. True hermaphrodism is one specific category of intersex.

Another futa definition discussion where I have to bring up the "Futanari? What's that?" book.
Find it, read it. This discussion will probably end up nuked by the mods like all the others.

 

[LeakCode]

Another futa definition discussion where I have to bring up the "Futanari? What is it?" book.
Find it, read it. This discussion will probably end up nuked by the mods like all the others.

So? A book can be wrong.
ふたなり is a Japanese word to describe Hermaphrodism. Maybe US uses the word "futanari" differently. But in the rest of the world, where we adhere to the meaning of the original Japanese word, it means hermaprhodism.

It's a word used in many of the historical text. It's definitely not fictional.

 

[ViviX12]

So? A book can be wrong.
ふたなり is a Japanese word to describe Hermaphrodism. Maybe US uses the word "futanari" differently. But in the rest of the world, where we adhere to the meaning of the original Japanese word, it means hermaprhodism.

It's a word used in many of the historical text. It's definitely not fictional.

Yea I'm just gonna dump more pages at you.
"Book may be wrong" a japanese futanari artist is gonna be more credible than an internet rando ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[LeakCode]

Yea I'm just gonna dump more pages at you.
"Book may be wrong" a japanese futanari artist is gonna be more credible than an internet rando ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Literally on this page, 二形 aka ふたなり was used in the scrolls to describe the intertex "disease" or what we now call disorder.

 

[ViviX12]

Literally on this page, 二形 aka ふたなり was used in the scrolls to describe the intertex "disease" or what we now call disorder.

And 'idiot' used to describe a medical condition. It takes reading just right past the sentence you clung onto confirming your view of things to read that the term is not used that way nowadays.

 

[LeakCode]

And 'idiot' used to describe a medical condition. It takes reading just right past the sentence you clung onto confirming your view of things to read that the term is not used that way nowadays.

It's definitely still used today. Look, if you just say intersex, people don't know what kind of intersex the person is. 二(two)形(form) describes perfectly that it's the type with both the vagina and the penis, and in English, we call this condition true hermaphrodism. So, it is actually not accurate enough to say in real life that a person with both genita just have intersex disorder. Because there are many intersex disorders. For example, some people with intersex disorder just have penis as small as clit and mangled scrotum but internally have female production organ. Those people with scrotum don't have openings for vagina because scrotum is exactly where the vagina would be. But specifically the ones with both a penis and vagina, are called 二形 in Japan, and in English, true hermaphrodites. They do not have scrotum and they exist in real life.

 

[ViviX12]

It's definitely still used today. Look, if you just say intersex, people don't know what kind of intersex the person is. 二(two)形(form) describes perfectly that it's the type with both the vagina and the penis, and in English, we call this condition true hermaphrodism. So, it is actually not accurate enough to say in real life that a person with both genita just have intersex disorder. Because there are many intersex disorders. For example, some people with intersex disorder just have penis as small as clit and mangled scrotum but internally have female production organ. Those people with scrotum don't have openings for vagina because scrotum is exactly where the vagina would be. But specifically the ones with both a penis and vagina, are called 二形 in Japan, and in English, true hermaphrodites. They do not have scrotum and they exist in real life.

That has nothing to do with the fictional concept of futanari.

 

[LeakCode]

That has nothing to do with the fictional concept of futanari.

I literally just said it is still used today as an actual term and it is not fictional. As for fictional stuff, we have full package futanari literally shown in the page 8 where it is stated that some authors respect the origin of the word futanari so they invented this new term full package futanari.

 

[ViviX12]

I literally just said it is still used today as an actual term and it is not fictional. As for fictional stuff, we have full package futanari literally shown in the page 8 where it is stated that some authors respect the origin of the word futanari so they invented this new term full package futanari.

The term is not used in context of real people. It may have been at inception, it is not currently. "Original meaning" you refer to does not refer to the meaning you keep thinking of, but the situation of the term being applied more loosely after western exposure while already being established as a term for fictional characters with both genitalia.
Frankly, I shouldn't be defending anything right now. Bring up any source that supports anything you've been saying. Any modern text that'd supports your claims about the term that isn't just misusing it.

 

[LeakCode]

but the situation of the term being applied more loosely after western exposure while already being established as a term for fictional characters with both genitalia.

You already said it yourself that the meaning changed after western exposure. So, they had to introduce a new term.
You can argue all about it being more loosely but to me that is changing the original meaning that targeted specifically those without testicles, which are well within the realm of realism. Once you add testicles, it is no longer possible in real life and is 100% fictional.

 

[Magister Masquerade]

Another futa definition discussion where I have to bring up the "Futanari? What's that?" book.
Find it, read it. This discussion will probably end up nuked by the mods like all the others.
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I'm not sure what book this is or who wrote it, but you should be careful to blindly believe what you see online or even from 'experts' lmao, especially with socially ambiguous terms and/or concepts.

No one uses these definition with any 'formal' capacity in Japanese porn, where the term futanari was most used and known from. I've seen porn as early as the 2000s called futanari having both genitals, or just being dickgirls, or having balls or not having balls.

The origins of a word are also ultimately meaningless compared to the social context it's actually used in. That's how we get slang, by the way, which is incredibly common to all cultures.

I'm not even sure what you two are even really arguing about any more, but everything in fictional work is fictional and it's a good thing we separate sexualized terms/fetishes/kinks with a layer of fictionalization.

That's one reason why I think this site using trans alongside futa as if they were the same thing idiotic, because they're not in the context they're actually used in and have been used in for decades.

Then study a bit of biology. In particular the development of the reproductive system.

Sexual organs develop from intermediate mesoderm into different male and female counterparts. They develop into different parts depending on hormones.

Both the penis and the clit develop from mesodermal tissue in the phallus. All embyros only have one set of these sexual organs to develop from.The phallus can only develop into one set of these not 2 for example. Therefore, they are mutally exclusive.

The only people with 2 sets of organs are those conjoined twins with connected bodies, born from two nucleu joined together.


Futanari means true hermaphrodism. True hermaphrodism is one specific category of intersex.

True hermaphordism is a disorder/genetic defect in humans, full stop, as are most forms of biological intersex. It's not normal for our species the way it is for others.

Regardless of the term's original meaning, it has an utterly different context today, which is normal. I'm sure you're aware that homosexuality also had a lot of different, not-so-great meanings with off the wall sources of 'affliction' during the same periods, lmao? It was also considered a mental disorder for a long while due to sheer lack of understanding of mental disorders.

"Respecting" origins of words is mostly silly and pointless, as that's just not how language works or, more importantly, society. Tons of words have been coopted or had their meanings changed in modern context.

Futanari is one of them, and has been for decades. It has nothing to do with real people in the context of porn, so developing a new term for it just means the devs have no idea what they're talking about.

This whole argument just seems silly to me. You're not going to find anyone saying "futanari" outside of porn 99% of the time even in Japan save for a few rare cases, and they're seemingly trying to create new terms for stuff like this anyway exactly because of the sexualized association.

Being respectful to the ancient origin of the word in a whacko porn game like this is honestly face-palmy. Like, the heart is there, but it's also incredibly pointless virtue signaling that acomplishes nothing.