You can obviously have your own tastes but why the fuck are you wasting everyone's time in an obviously futa-on-male focused game thread if you don't like futa on male. just go away and save everyone the hassle, nobody needs the feedback "WELL I JUST DON'T LIKE THIS GENRE OF GAME" ok? then why bother posting here?
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He directly asked for honest feedback. Do you have a problem with honest feedback when it is asked for? If you have a problem with a direct request by the dev then maybe you should avoid posting here instead of me.
Matt WalshI never thought I'd get a lesson on human reproduction here on F95.
But yeah, 17Moonkeys, the pronoun scramble is making me want to call Matt Walsh and get his opinion.
please give us back our secret, with big plot around that milf <3 with netorare, love, vengeance , futa and e.t.c
He's asking for honest feedback from people who have any interest in the game
Would you go into a thread of a gay yaoi game and expect that the feedback he is looking for is "I DON'T LIKE GAY"
Obviously not
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Again I was asked for an opinion, I gave my opinion that included what I don't like AND gave a potential solution which could expand 17MOONKEYS available target audience to include more people. I did not come in stomp around and throw a tantrum like a baby and say "WAH WAH WAH" I actually attempted to contribute an insight and a solution. You wouldn't make a blatant attack on someone whos opinion differs from yours simply because he made a suggestion to a dev that included what he disliked about a game would you? Oh my mistake I see you absolutely would.
Folks are free to like what they like, including dangles and dongles. The poster didn't say anything trashing the genre or the material, merely that they prefer a more feminine jam to their MC, and their interests are inclined in that direction.
The noted they prefer being in the drivers seat rather than the a observer. And what it would probably take for them to play and support the game.
So, yes, a lot of this runs counter to the game design, and the poster should likely seek something else out for their interest unless things drastically change in the future, which is unlikely.
But it is their feedback and opinion, and honest besides. Probably. The Dev doesn't have to turn cartwheels or do a bloody thing here beyond grunt and nod, really.
Heck, let's give you a second target to unleash a salvo on!
Another opinion: Shock and Horror! Abandon all hope, ye who gatekeep here.
(It's not that bad, but you are coming across pretty heated prepping for a fight that doesn't need to be. Save that energy for kicking the real trolls in the nuts)
So, the good:
The renders are even better than they were before in previous versions, which were already pretty darned good. The blonde in particular looks a bit more tempting and realistic rather than plastic. The characters are expressive in the art, which helps.
And you millage can vary, but most of them look quite easy on the eyes, exaggerated bits or not.
Your futa actually have both bits. Bravo!
The middle: The dialogue. You are going for the occasionally quirky or amusing, and some of it lands. Some if it is still fairly awkward. It is honestly kind of tricky to measure this too much because you are floating between characters a bit, which is a bit jarring.
It'll probably work better when there is more content for the reader/player to sink their teeth into, but as it currently stands its kind of all over the place. We're given the pov of the lead, with some degree of control on the input or direction, but then it hops to several other characters, very much on rails.
The meh: We've been here before. It's clear the developer is refining their story and their tools, and all the better for them. But it's kind of hard to remain enthused when the content is very much what was on the tin before, with a slightly nicer, newer trim with more sparkly paint.
The controversial?
This is more of a personal thing, but I'm not the biggest fan of (manly) male on futa. Not enough to go, 'oh gods no, WHY, WHHYYYYyy' while scratching at my eyeballs and occasionally gibbering, but as personal preference goes, if I'm going to indulge in a smutty futa style romp, I'm here for the sexy ladies doing the sexy things with the sexy bits.
Let's be clear. I'm down for smut. If you are going to have those oversized bits and tits, I want to see them get utilized, for the good of the land. The story claims they have a powerful sex drive, yet every gal roams around with a wooden persona despite them wearing the barest of 'clothing'. There's no crew types snogging in closets, no spontanious fucking, no swollen bods dripping spunk even as they continue on in their stoic way.
Oh well. You can't have everything.
Which is why I'm less than enthused with guy hero protagonist McNerdDudeBro. He's not written terribly, mind. And so far he's escaping a fair amount of the typical weak willed nonsense where they just follow along. Good for him!
But again, if this is a literal space escape fantasy, with futa as the focus, I would prefer *playing* and *exploring* from the point of view of a futanari. But not just any futa. To clarify, that includes cutting away to a the futa that boinks something or somebody, and then we are back in the shoes of heroguy.
There are many futa, but which one is ours? Bonus points if the the protagonist has to go through some sort of transformation or change where they need to adapt to the lifestyle and customs, where the reader/player gets to enjoy the shift. Give us a very direct tour to the ins and outs, and rules of the society from the drivers seat.
But that's the rub: The game *has* supporters, and unless I'm vastly mistaken, they are here for the dude getting the dong.
Fair enough!
So I'm clearly not the target audience, and writing the whole mess above is likely a massive, silly waste of time, haha!
Would I support the game as it stands?
Probably not, sorry not sorry. I only have a little bit of extra coin and I would far rather toss it projects that are aligned with my interests, few as they are. The game, pretty as it is, also has the extra baggage of retreading the same familiar ground with several updates to go before the player encounters anything 'new', seems like.
And then there's my obnoxious preference for playing as a futa in a futa game. So it's kind of a hard sell for me and mine!
I do want to see it succeed, even if it's not my jam. The art is wonderful, the scenario is a pretty unique one, and it should make for an interesting playground when it's, uh, fleshed out enough. Best of luck dev!
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The noted they prefer being in the drivers seat rather than the a observer. And what it would probably take for them to play and support the game.
So, yes, a lot of this runs counter to the game design, and the poster should likely seek something else out for their interest unless things drastically change in the future, which is unlikely.
But it is their feedback and opinion, and honest besides. Probably. The Dev doesn't have to turn cartwheels or do a bloody thing here beyond grunt and nod, really.
Heck, let's give you a second target to unleash a salvo on!
Another opinion: Shock and Horror! Abandon all hope, ye who gatekeep here.
(It's not that bad, but you are coming across pretty heated prepping for a fight that doesn't need to be. Save that energy for kicking the real trolls in the nuts)
So, the good:
The renders are even better than they were before in previous versions, which were already pretty darned good. The blonde in particular looks a bit more tempting and realistic rather than plastic. The characters are expressive in the art, which helps.
And you millage can vary, but most of them look quite easy on the eyes, exaggerated bits or not.
Your futa actually have both bits. Bravo!
The middle: The dialogue. You are going for the occasionally quirky or amusing, and some of it lands. Some if it is still fairly awkward. It is honestly kind of tricky to measure this too much because you are floating between characters a bit, which is a bit jarring.
It'll probably work better when there is more content for the reader/player to sink their teeth into, but as it currently stands its kind of all over the place. We're given the pov of the lead, with some degree of control on the input or direction, but then it hops to several other characters, very much on rails.
The meh: We've been here before. It's clear the developer is refining their story and their tools, and all the better for them. But it's kind of hard to remain enthused when the content is very much what was on the tin before, with a slightly nicer, newer trim with more sparkly paint.
The controversial?
This is more of a personal thing, but I'm not the biggest fan of (manly) male on futa. Not enough to go, 'oh gods no, WHY, WHHYYYYyy' while scratching at my eyeballs and occasionally gibbering, but as personal preference goes, if I'm going to indulge in a smutty futa style romp, I'm here for the sexy ladies doing the sexy things with the sexy bits.
Let's be clear. I'm down for smut. If you are going to have those oversized bits and tits, I want to see them get utilized, for the good of the land. The story claims they have a powerful sex drive, yet every gal roams around with a wooden persona despite them wearing the barest of 'clothing'. There's no crew types snogging in closets, no spontanious fucking, no swollen bods dripping spunk even as they continue on in their stoic way.
Oh well. You can't have everything.
Which is why I'm less than enthused with guy hero protagonist McNerdDudeBro. He's not written terribly, mind. And so far he's escaping a fair amount of the typical weak willed nonsense where they just follow along. Good for him!
But again, if this is a literal space escape fantasy, with futa as the focus, I would prefer *playing* and *exploring* from the point of view of a futanari. But not just any futa. To clarify, that includes cutting away to a the futa that boinks something or somebody, and then we are back in the shoes of heroguy.
There are many futa, but which one is ours? Bonus points if the the protagonist has to go through some sort of transformation or change where they need to adapt to the lifestyle and customs, where the reader/player gets to enjoy the shift. Give us a very direct tour to the ins and outs, and rules of the society from the drivers seat.
But that's the rub: The game *has* supporters, and unless I'm vastly mistaken, they are here for the dude getting the dong.
Fair enough!
So I'm clearly not the target audience, and writing the whole mess above is likely a massive, silly waste of time, haha!
Would I support the game as it stands?
Probably not, sorry not sorry. I only have a little bit of extra coin and I would far rather toss it projects that are aligned with my interests, few as they are. The game, pretty as it is, also has the extra baggage of retreading the same familiar ground with several updates to go before the player encounters anything 'new', seems like.
And then there's my obnoxious preference for playing as a futa in a futa game. So it's kind of a hard sell for me and mine!
I do want to see it succeed, even if it's not my jam. The art is wonderful, the scenario is a pretty unique one, and it should make for an interesting playground when it's, uh, fleshed out enough. Best of luck dev!
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Some of this can be very much debated, or at least the making of too general statements of acceptance or widespread practice based on a few examples. Yes being passive was especially shameful, Im not saying the whole thing is false. But at the same time what remained of art might not be representative of the acceptance of homosexuality more broadly in incient rome or greece. It could easily be argued that we got a slice of the debauchery in artist circles, mixed in with accusations of homosexuality (political opponents spreading rumors of eachother) being mistaken as accepted as some presigious thing. There are even recorded court cases one ending with death sentence against pederastry, or multiple death sentences for participation in a sex cult. I dont fully buy the being active was a-o-kay, but its likely that some places & some periods didnt enforce laws against it & that some people were above the law unfortunately (speaking of the stuff with minors & slaves). Especially late-empire. There were writers on the -pro side just as there are of any wild idea today, other works simply lost important cultural context to know if a fiction was meant to be taken as positive.
Understandable, you really shouldnt get flak for this. The games are free and with having a single support page for all your games, the offer is clearly to support your passion for those who like it. If you set up separate pages for each game and abandon them but still take cash from those games, people would have a cause to complain.
Yes it sounds pretty pathetic to everyone who have never fantasized about any story, also to polar bears, probably, idk.
Apologies for the sarcasm i had to let it out. and theres more...
Ill take one for the team guys, send the futas to me.
Yes we are.
You psycho how is not being a bottom problematicSimple: Penis Envy!
- honestly though, you are threatening the Male fragile ego.
(Damn near every comment from a male player is "Make it optional"
"I am Heterosexual; I Only Want to be (or see) Male x Futa.)
.(no offense)
Please apologise to at least 10 transwomen in person, how dare you have a sexuality of your own and be less fucked up in the head than some other people. (Btw, many of them dont like having a dick or using it id imagine.)From my own perspective, it's being on the receiving end of a cock that is the problem.
If I was more comfortable with my sexuality it really wouldn't matter one way or they other. I wish I thought that way. Life would be simpler and more fun
-CMO i guess just to be in control of the MC? Even just someone having a gun puts you in a different mindset so youre more cooperative.
-Security girl says it all ingame, but we can also speculate shes attracted to mommy
-about the dynamics being weird id point to the princess vs captain, this is where the captains personal tone suprised me. The game clearly signals that things are out of the ordinary because everyone is going crazy for MC, but their interaction was still a little over the top maybe. A princess could be super entitled , but we havent seen that being true so far shes only been accused with it. On the other hand a captain would have better selfcontrol. The other slightly of thing is having an alien brought to your bedroom right away. We can let it pass, things would get the pretty soon in a porn game anyway, but what im saying is there is a lack of establishing how their ranks & protocols work, and its just an afterthougt that technically they have things like that until the story needs it.
- I really like the concept of another world working on different logic and this resulting in the translator not having a distinction between male and female pronouns. Im not into feminization and would rather go naked than try on that night gown, but being called "her" makes narrative sense in this case. (though id try to resolve it eventually if i were there). It does imply that they dont know much about earth though and didnt come in an official and fully prepared fashion.
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What does founding UCB have to do with human reproduction and pronouns?I never thought I'd get a lesson on human reproduction here on F95.
But yeah, 17Moonkeys, the pronoun scramble is making me want to call Matt Walsh and get his opinion.
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Man, saw an update to this and after noticing "Honest feedback required", decided to give it a try again, regardless of kinda empty and uneventfull changelog.
I played the old pilot release back in may of 2023 according to my folders, and was expecting a lot more with such nice and juicy futa models, but it just cuts so unexpectedly....
I guess in 1 year we got an addition of nice backstory, hint at incest with mother, and a little bit over 2-3 more "scenes", which is kinda sad, but maybe you are busy with other games that are not abbandoned yet, i am not following their update schedules.
Now for the feedback, i guess the typos and grammar is obvious. I am not a native speaker, so maybe my experience and guts telling me that something sounds amiss can be just wrong in some places, like "I can insist that she appoint you a general or..." i think it misses "she should/must/can/has to appoint you", or maybe simply "appoints" at the very least.
And "Chapeter 1" after being abducted.
Them adressing the male humanoid as "she" is kinda weird and very confusing, especially during first introduction to Cocki, considering that they also captured his mom, made it look like a bad english/translation problem, but i just brushed it off as them being all female on their planet, where they have no words to adress a male being, which was somewhat confirmed when they called a dick as "clitor". But like, they have concept of "Male being" because they call him male, so why do they not have a word to address males?
Adding mid review, why then Cocki adresses male MC as him when making a deal?
Also, replaying the 0.01 pilot, they are saying "him" in there. Why change it? To make them look more "alien" and "not like us"? The change is a hit or miss for me, it does help in establishing the "all futa society" and them all using "she/her", but at first sight looks just confusing. (And after finding the incostintency, even more so)
As for more feedback... That's pretty much all that is questionable, i like everything else, as already mentioned, juicy models, thick looking cum so far, tho in the scene where captain gets caught in sniffing MC's pants, maybe after she stood up, keeping the cum on her belly would be a nice consistency touch. But since she stood up having her back facing us before turning towards camera, maybe she just wiped it somehow....? Not a big deal for me.
And for last, somewhat outside of feedback, as already mentioned above about preference between liking futa and disliking futa on male, for me it basically boils into this: the people don't like when an obviously male character is in the focus of action, like they are not attractive. I can cover my eyes if it has other fetishes i like, but it's not my favourite thing. I am fine if it's a taker POV or the male getting fucked has feminine features. But in my opinion it's kinda too soon to judge what they will do with MC. But with this pace who knows when will we get actual action...
UPD: Ah, there was already a post about incostintency of MC pronouns, and i missed the Allegra one.
I played the old pilot release back in may of 2023 according to my folders, and was expecting a lot more with such nice and juicy futa models, but it just cuts so unexpectedly....
I guess in 1 year we got an addition of nice backstory, hint at incest with mother, and a little bit over 2-3 more "scenes", which is kinda sad, but maybe you are busy with other games that are not abbandoned yet, i am not following their update schedules.
Now for the feedback, i guess the typos and grammar is obvious. I am not a native speaker, so maybe my experience and guts telling me that something sounds amiss can be just wrong in some places, like "I can insist that she appoint you a general or..." i think it misses "she should/must/can/has to appoint you", or maybe simply "appoints" at the very least.
And "Chapeter 1" after being abducted.
Them adressing the male humanoid as "she" is kinda weird and very confusing, especially during first introduction to Cocki, considering that they also captured his mom, made it look like a bad english/translation problem, but i just brushed it off as them being all female on their planet, where they have no words to adress a male being, which was somewhat confirmed when they called a dick as "clitor". But like, they have concept of "Male being" because they call him male, so why do they not have a word to address males?
Adding mid review, why then Cocki adresses male MC as him when making a deal?
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As for more feedback... That's pretty much all that is questionable, i like everything else, as already mentioned, juicy models, thick looking cum so far, tho in the scene where captain gets caught in sniffing MC's pants, maybe after she stood up, keeping the cum on her belly would be a nice consistency touch. But since she stood up having her back facing us before turning towards camera, maybe she just wiped it somehow....? Not a big deal for me.
And for last, somewhat outside of feedback, as already mentioned above about preference between liking futa and disliking futa on male, for me it basically boils into this: the people don't like when an obviously male character is in the focus of action, like they are not attractive. I can cover my eyes if it has other fetishes i like, but it's not my favourite thing. I am fine if it's a taker POV or the male getting fucked has feminine features. But in my opinion it's kinda too soon to judge what they will do with MC. But with this pace who knows when will we get actual action...
UPD: Ah, there was already a post about incostintency of MC pronouns, and i missed the Allegra one.
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I disagree with you. I would Much rather be on the receiving end of a trans woman, or a Futa cock.From my own perspective, it's being on the receiving end of a cock that is the problem.
In my mind, the act of taking cock is gay, be it from a man or a trans woman. At the same time, it's okay to fuck a trans woman because they are feminine and identify as a woman (somehow that isn't gay in my mind).
Not saying it makes sense (it doesn't) but that's how my (relatively) straight mind works. Give dick okay, take dick is bad. Which to a trans woman must seem incredibly unfair. That's why I would never get in a relationship with one, as I'd feel selfish for ignoring their cock.
If I was more comfortable with my sexuality it really wouldn't matter one way or they other. I wish I thought that way. Life would be simpler and more fun
(or a female partner wearing a strap-on). It Could be FUN, if approached with an Open mind.
I view and RESPECT trans women as People, not sexual objects; I see them and Admire their beauty and femineity.
IMO having sex with a trans woman, or any female, Is all about pleasure, both Hers and yours.
Having sex, anal or otherwise, with a man Is ALL about HIS pleasure (feeding his ego)!
-whether it be just 'getting off' and ejaculating in/on his partner, or just 'getting off' on dominating them.
I would much rather play with, fondle and suck a trans female cock, than a cock belonging to any male
(not because it may be construed as "Gay",..) I just do Not Like Men!
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it was a Demo a few months ago, so yeah.
There is a bit more content now; not sure If I would call it enough to be a 0.1, just being honest.
Yo, we get your hangups about dudes. You've basically posted the same thing 10 times over.