VN Ren'Py Futa's World of NTR [v1.3.3] [ScarletGames]

[chesskerry]

What engine is this game using if i may ask? is it koikatsu?

 

[Bloodsito0]

why all the girls are so fucking hot? xD normally i dont play games with futa, i tryied them before but i always delete them after 10 min, this is the first game that i am playing for more time and i must to say, all the girls and the scenes are fucking hot
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You gon' like Twisted World too then, there's a remake On going and the classic version

 

[Maulis47]

What engine is this game using if i may ask? is it koikatsu?

yes, but searching the thread should have given you the answer faster

 

[Kekekerkek]

so the next update is only the afternoon? or is it the whole day?

 

[Dragongod777]

so the next update is only the afternoon? or is it the whole day?

The afternoon

 

[sabadongelov]

I think you missed the part where futa on futa is supposed to be a bad path that ends with a bad ending in week 1 so we can get netorare in week 2. Also what's the point of Netori if futa on futa is going to give you what netori has anyway? Are you suggesting the 2 should be mixed? I think working on a path with a fresh cast to explore something very different became popular for a reason.

If so, I did, but a bad path that ends the game prematurely is an even worse idea actually, but ok.

I am suggesting that all, or at the very least most, LIs should be up for grabs regardless of which route you choose. And that much of the main story should be the same regardless of route, to not get stuck in developmental hell.

The maze of relationships you're bringing up also works best in sandbox games tbh.

What are you talking about? Most games have a core story. Many games let you choose how to approach LIs. Will the MC be dominant or submissive towards the LI? Will the MC be loving or corrupting towards the LI? And so on. Has nothing to do with sandbox.

This just isn't that kind of game and not everyone wants to play futa on futa that's why it was split right?

This game already have exactly what I'm talking about in the first portions of the game, where the route choosen defines how Millie has sex with Hana, depravity means rape, while NTR means seduction/corruption.

As for the players being able to opt out from futa on futa, that could easily be implemented by letting the players choose which LIs to go after. So instead of forcing players who enjoy futa on futa to forgo non-futa LIs, the players could simply be given the option to not go for every LI. Then every player could tailor their harem/cast of LIs according to their preferences (people can dislike more things than just futa). Many games do this.

My own opinion? It sounds like you’re just saying what you want, but that doesn’t prove the game has bad development or that your ideas are what’s best for it. Again my own opinion.

Yeah, of course it is my opinion and not some objective truth, that said I do think games that don't create completely separate paths will achieve better results, everything else equal, than games that have completely separate paths, because having, for instance, three completely separate paths means almost three times as much time and resources will be required from the dev to advance the game compared to a game where paths are just variations of the same core story (for instance on how to approach LIs). This update is a good example of this, where all/most of the update is only reserved for those on the depravity route. Had there instead been more of a common main story, you could have updates for all paths.

 

[Kekekerkek]

If so, I did, but a bad path that ends the game prematurely is an even worse idea actually, but ok.

I am suggesting that all, or at the very least most, LIs should be up for grabs regardless of which route you choose. And that much of the main story should be the same regardless of route, to not get stuck in developmental hell.



What are you talking about? Most games have a core story. Many games let you choose how to approach LIs. Will the MC be dominant or submissive towards the LI? Will the MC be loving or corrupting towards the LI? And so on. Has nothing to do with sandbox.



This game already have exactly what I'm talking about in the first portions of the game, where the route choosen defines how Millie has sex with Hana, depravity means rape, while NTR means seduction/corruption.

As for the players being able to opt out from futa on futa, that could easily be implemented by letting the players choose which LIs to go after. So instead of forcing players who enjoy futa on futa to forgo non-futa LIs, the players could simply be given the option to not go for every LI. Then every player could tailor their harem/cast of LIs according to their preferences (people can dislike more things than just futa). Many games do this.



Yeah, of course it is my opinion and not some objective truth, that said I do think games that don't create completely separate paths will achieve better results, everything else equal, than games that have completely separate paths, because having, for instance, three completely separate paths means almost three times as much time and resources will be required from the dev to advance the game compared to a game where paths are just variations of the same core story (for instance on how to approach LIs). This update is a good example of this, where all/most of the update is only reserved for those on the depravity route. Had there instead been more of a common main story, you could have updates for all paths.

i get what you say and i would agree with most games but i think this game handles very well 2 complete different path, i think that merging them would be a bad idea because it feels like choices have consequence which is very enjoyable and while some people would have to wait longer for an update i think it is worth it for the game if he plan to release it on steam or other platform.(at least i think there is 2 path? correct me if i'm wrong but i only saw the netori and futa path)

 

[Zeekl]

If so, I did, but a bad path that ends the game prematurely is an even worse idea actually, but ok.

I am suggesting that all, or at the very least most, LIs should be up for grabs regardless of which route you choose. And that much of the main story should be the same regardless of route, to not get stuck in developmental hell.



What are you talking about? Most games have a core story. Many games let you choose how to approach LIs. Will the MC be dominant or submissive towards the LI? Will the MC be loving or corrupting towards the LI? And so on. Has nothing to do with sandbox.



This game already have exactly what I'm talking about in the first portions of the game, where the route choosen defines how Millie has sex with Hana, depravity means rape, while NTR means seduction/corruption.

As for the players being able to opt out from futa on futa, that could easily be implemented by letting the players choose which LIs to go after. So instead of forcing players who enjoy futa on futa to forgo non-futa LIs, the players could simply be given the option to not go for every LI. Then every player could tailor their harem/cast of LIs according to their preferences (people can dislike more things than just futa). Many games do this.



Yeah, of course it is my opinion and not some objective truth, that said I do think games that don't create completely separate paths will achieve better results, everything else equal, than games that have completely separate paths, because having, for instance, three completely separate paths means almost three times as much time and resources will be required from the dev to advance the game compared to a game where paths are just variations of the same core story (for instance on how to approach LIs). This update is a good example of this, where all/most of the update is only reserved for those on the depravity route. Had there instead been more of a common main story, you could have updates for all paths.

Your opinions are just fine. My only issue is that you're suggesting a more complex approach for something that has been made so simple. The two paths are completely different stories with different approaches. You can’t write a story where the protagonist wins everything while also deconstructing their character at the same time. It just doesn’t work. That’s why they’re separate, and there’s nothing wrong with that. Bad Endings are not new to visual novels either.

In a game like this where characters are starting to interact so much, trying to write selective love interests and their own dialogue based on relationship would be a nightmare for the Dev. Especially in a game that tries to give consequences to choices.
The game is just fine with separating kinks into only 2 or 3 paths. And the moment a Dev starts tearing apart his formula, the game starts to collapse. Maybe I'm being parasocial because I have conversed with the dev before and he seems to go through hell just to balance personal life and the game. And I'm just happy the game still remains so amazing. So I'll be fair and ask if you have such a problem with the dev’s approach, have you tried taking it up with him/ her directly?

 

[forkedtongue]

Is there any general guides for the available paths in this game?
for example, I'm mostly interested in doing netori/netorare but I'm afraid of going into another path without even realizing

 

[sabadongelov]

Your opinions are just fine. My only issue is that you're suggesting a more complex approach for something that has been made so simple. The two paths are completely different stories with different approaches. You can’t write a story where the protagonist wins everything while also deconstructing their character at the same time. It just doesn’t work. That’s why they’re separate, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

I don't agree that it is simple. After the previous update I spent quite some time testing different choices within both paths to see what different outcomes it resultet in. This time I didn't bother, because of the time it took last time and the fact that this was a shorter update.

If you're only ever interested in one path, then it might be simple, but I am not.

Bad Endings are not new to visual novels either.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a bad ending if that ending is given immediately after the wrong choice is made. But wrong choices that lead to bad ends hours into the game after the choice was made is bad game design.

In a game like this where characters are starting to interact so much, trying to write selective love interests and their own dialogue based on relationship would be a nightmare for the Dev. Especially in a game that tries to give consequences to choices.

Having some dialogue and sex scenes vary somewhat is a lot less effort than constructing what is essentially two or three different games at the same time. There is also nothing special with this game in regards to character interaction. My suggestion would likely decrease work load rather than increase it.

The game is just fine with separating kinks into only 2 or 3 paths. And the moment a Dev starts tearing apart his formula, the game starts to collapse. Maybe I'm being parasocial because I have conversed with the dev before and he seems to go through hell just to balance personal life and the game. And I'm just happy the game still remains so amazing.

The dev should do whatever they want and continue the vision they have for the game. If this is how they want the game to progress, that is of course their choice and whether or not they will listen to player input or not is up to them (and I don't mean not listening to player imput as something wholly negative, it is usually better to have a dev that completes their vision without listening to player input at all than a dev that is trying to please everyone regardless of how that jives with the original idea for the game). That will however not stop me from expressing my opinion.

So I'll be fair and ask if you have such a problem with the dev’s approach, have you tried taking it up with him/ her directly?

And I'll be fair and ask, are we getting to the fanboy stage where no constructive criticism at all is allowed, only fawning praise? I don't have "such a problem with the dev's approach", if I had I wouldn't play the game and I wouldn't write that I enjoy the game and call my own criticms "nitpicking" (se the first comment I wrote that you replied to). I just commented on something I think could have been done better.

As for the dev, they have previously been active in this thread. Once more, it is up to them if they want to interact with players and listen to their input. If they do not want to do that, I will not impose further by DM:ing them or anything such.

 

[Daryle1]

Is there any general guides for the available paths in this game?
for example, I'm mostly interested in doing netori/netorare but I'm afraid of going into another path without even realizing

To stay on Netori, 'check out some flowers' with Hana on Day 1 and you are safe. If you choose the other option then the choices you get when Nadya proposes to you in class on Day 2 will be the branching point for the two paths. A notification in the upper left corner of the screen will show which path you're on.