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Dawoodi
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Man i wonder what the patrons think of this game? they should be the most important people to the devs but i still see the devs respond to the Freeloaders on F95 From time to time, i wonder what they think of all these delays?
well they should still have a lot of Faith in the project since they still support it.
well they should still have a lot of Faith in the project since they still support it.
Nildzre
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I believe it when i see it, i remember when it was supposed to come out last year.
Bulbanych
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Yeah, no, the problem isn't the fanbase being "impatient", the problem is that the game had far too many delays. I can give you a link to a post from ULMF (I'm just unsure if there are rules here about giving links to ULMF) dating back to february 22, 2022 with a post from a guy who collected posts where HW's delay announcements, and that post lists 5 delay announcements from HW.
That post is from 2022, we're slowly getting closer and closer to the end of 2023 and the game as of now is still isn't out, and despite people saying that the game should be out in the next 2-3 months, there's no knowing if it will actually release on time, or if it will be delayed once more.
EDIT: Actually, I beg your pardon, that post lists TEN DELAYS, because the ULMF thread with the post I'm talking about started after this thread on F95 started.
EDIT2: Fuck it here's the link,
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Tsugumi
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I would abandon your project as a fan way before that if you kept failing to meet deadlines you set yourself over and over. You "abandoning the project" would be icing on the cake for me, the last nail in the coffin for you as a developer. Unless you plan on being one of the people milking their "fan base" on Patreon in return for promises and a couple 3D renders every month.
This whole thing is way more complex than "just do it" or "just shut up and wait". For example, assuming the devs are 100% genuine about having issues, are 100% honest with every single word they say, et cetera...at the end of this, failures like these can affect THEM, of all people. Imagine creating something, but losing your interest and motivation due to mental and/or psychological trauma from the multitude of failures you had along the way.
Either way, considering you could afford to abandon the work you spent years, not to mention money, on a whim, I would be genuinely happy for your financial well-being, if nothing else, since you have that luxury. Not everyone can say the same.
It'll be funny if HW move the full release of the game next year lol.
you mean the release of the firelevel demo?
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Steam says I've added this game to my wishlist on 6/28/2020. If I remember correctly it was supposed to release that year, in autumn. After that I checked the game's Steam page every now and then, and every couple of months the dev posted something like "The game is almost finished, we will definitely release on date X" or "This time we are seriously releasing the game on date X, even if it will be unfinished!" which was followed by "We are delaying the release by another 3 months for more polishing". And after like 10th delay the dev started to post some made up numbers for fake progress reports. Nobody in their right mind would actually believe 10% of "scenes" (whatever that means) can take 2 years to make.
It is especially funny to see the precise number of bugs steadily declining in each update - that's not how it works, at all. That dev clearly thinks his audience is dumb.
It is especially funny to see the precise number of bugs steadily declining in each update - that's not how it works, at all. That dev clearly thinks his audience is dumb.
What I'm currently wondering is whether the game even has a chance of coming out in 2023. I distinctly recall the dev stating that the game had to come out at August 31st of last year (regardless of its state), since anything in the remaining quarter would apparently be a dead spot for sales.
Flash forward a year, and here we are again. August 31st.
On an amusing note, the Dev can still technically release the game for free, since he can upload here while charging for it elsewhere per usual. In the event that's its released, its inevitably going to happen anyway, so thus that particular promise could be fulfilled despite its seeming impossibility.
However, if it is a scam, I would think that by now someone would contest their policy on offering refunds if they donated on Patreon but were withheld a refund about asking for one. The dev has said that for years repeatedly, and in all the time I've followed this thread, I've yet to anybody dispute it (and someone would've disputed it, if it were the case).
Wonder what there is to take-away from this? Don't try and voice every single bit of dialogue? Don't give release dates (in fact, limit any kind of promise to the minimum since nothing is absolute)?
Its interesting to note that one of the biggest issues (voice-acting) has since been met with an acceptable substitute through "AI". How times change.
Current Scenes Implemented as of August 14th, 2023: 378 out of 388.
Current Scenes Implemented as of August 28th, 2023: 379 out of 388 (an Earth cut-scene was implemented).
Flash forward a year, and here we are again. August 31st.
On an amusing note, the Dev can still technically release the game for free, since he can upload here while charging for it elsewhere per usual. In the event that's its released, its inevitably going to happen anyway, so thus that particular promise could be fulfilled despite its seeming impossibility.
However, if it is a scam, I would think that by now someone would contest their policy on offering refunds if they donated on Patreon but were withheld a refund about asking for one. The dev has said that for years repeatedly, and in all the time I've followed this thread, I've yet to anybody dispute it (and someone would've disputed it, if it were the case).
Wonder what there is to take-away from this? Don't try and voice every single bit of dialogue? Don't give release dates (in fact, limit any kind of promise to the minimum since nothing is absolute)?
Its interesting to note that one of the biggest issues (voice-acting) has since been met with an acceptable substitute through "AI". How times change.
Current Scenes Implemented as of August 14th, 2023: 378 out of 388.
Current Scenes Implemented as of August 28th, 2023: 379 out of 388 (an Earth cut-scene was implemented).
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without wanting to defend the dev, this last progress report was apparently only one scene because theyve been working on releasing a demo of the first level (whichthey announced a week ago to release within 24 hours and it still isnt here). The progress reports before that have been like around five scenes per report, so every two weeks. Thatd mean the game would be releasable within four weeks assuming its true that the game is ready for release when those scenes are in (which is what the dev said).
having followed the development for quite some time (i think i was a patron in 2017 or ‘18), my assessment wouldnt be so quick to jump to scam or any malice, just extremely poor work ethic or inability to wade through tedious work. The dev was streaming some of his work a few months ago and the streams were often cut short after a little bit of productive work by <insert random irl event here> or the dev would claim to return within x time, which ended upthe stream just running for 20 hours and no dev returning.
If the dev was actually scamming, I cant really understand why they would announce a demowithin 24 hours only to fail that deadline by more than a week now.
Obviously this is all speculation based on my very limited information, but at least I know how it feels like not being able to work on something consistently for more than a couple of minutes. Been there, done that. Again, not defending the dev, just my thoughts about whats going on.
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Yeah, I watched this game's development for quite some time before I straight up forgot about this game somewhere around last year, and this game's dev isn't exactly a scammer, because he definitely has a lot of passion towards this game, but he's fucking awful with deadlines, extremely shit at tempering his own ambition, and absolutely horrible with responding to criticism without going into holier-than-thou attitude.
It's still doesn't excuse failing to meet TEN DEADLINES OVER THE COURSE OF SIX YEARS, and I hope, that if he's gonna make another game, he either makes something less ambitious, or stops wanting to have every single line of text in the game voiced and screaming "we have 80+ voice actors" when people ask why most of the new content in a porn game is more voices, instead of good sex animations.
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It's been around 320 hours since then. Any word on the new demo? I didn't see it after then.
I'm excited though, guys. After nine years of development, we finally get to play the first level of the game!
I have a theory: guy is actualy alien from Saturn, explains all the delays and why his day over 300 hours . For us its over 9 years of development, for him its not even second one.
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They sent it to the testers and they are squashing bugs nonstop
The full game is nearly done. Just saiyan
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Pavon
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Damn this game got abandoned tag lmao
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I haven't followed this game closely at all since I played the demo 8 years ago or whatever. The whole thing about releasing a new demo rather than working on releasing the actual game tells you all you need to know. This game isn't coming out any time soon.
Edit: He PMed me lol. Guess he really doesn't have anything better to do.
Edit: He PMed me lol. Guess he really doesn't have anything better to do.
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sirretinee
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The 'Abandoned' tag is only for F95.
Something something if a project goes X time without an actual update, it gets the tag.