Does anyone have the really old demos, especially v0.17a? I wanna see the old CG and cutscenes before they were rewritten
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Krongorka
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I made 2 videos for FF starting with ~0.27 (which had modified scenes from Lava area and Snow area, with demon hypnosis removed) and 0.39 for another area, but after several years my channel was finally deleted because of copyright strike, which I shared in this post (link).
And I will never understand people that think killing things in videogames and characters getting brutally murdered is fine but rape crosses some weird line as if non-consensual sex is somehow worse than DEATH.
For some it's not about it being traumatic to the woman to the point of crying and mind-break and shit.
It's about the main character (either sex) trying to avoid being caught and forced into non-con sex with the enemies.
And the thought of "oh no, they caught my character and having their way with me~..." when that inevitably happens.
HardcoreCuddler
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Ask some AI about that, because it's been answered so many times that I'm not willing to waste keystrokes on it.
Enigmanic
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Why would we listen to AI about human psychology?
My brother in Christ, when hasn't porn games been 99% of bad writing rapey games? Infact it's way incredibly harder to find anything slightly vanilla, consensual, and with actual good writing that isn't borderline creepy and dislikeable. But believe it or not, I actually agree with you here. This game is in that sort of oddity limbo where it's SUPPOSED to be rape because it's a metroidvania and its incredibly weird just seeing enemies be like "oh no you just gored my brother, are you okay as I assfuck you unconsensually" and that sucks because it makes no sense and I really wanna enjoy the game... but now it seems super irrational if I don't or do go for any sex scene in it especially because most of the major point of the plot is that everything in it is too horny and should be avoided at every cost.
Sigh. I was incredibly excited for this game too. But the gameplay is way too barebones then I was expecting and I don't know if it gets better. Saving and actually going out of your way to do specific stuff is even worse. At this point it'd be better as a gallery showcase.
Because it's a easy to see common overused explanation that lifelong trauma is worse then death. One is a scripted survival reaction that's not even yours and the other is permanent damage. There's also a joke there that AI at this point and time has become alot more rationally human then most people in the world but that's also too easy to tell, isn't it?
I really don't get why this is so hard for people to understand so I'm going to break it down in as few words as possible.
Rape fetish... is a thing.
Original demos fulfilled that fetish = attracted people with that kink.
Rapey dialogue removed with release of game = people who originally liked the rape fetish dialogue are disappointed. I'd imagine most people here would be pretty pissed if a vanilla game got bait and switched in last update to suddenly be a rapey game, or suddenly included NTR when it was not clear it'd be like that from the beginning.
I've said it in the past but HW could of easily appeased both sides if he just turned it into a corruption game he had all the systems in place to do so as well and corruption games have almost always been insanely popular, absolute missed opportunity.
Rape fetish... is a thing.
Original demos fulfilled that fetish = attracted people with that kink.
Rapey dialogue removed with release of game = people who originally liked the rape fetish dialogue are disappointed. I'd imagine most people here would be pretty pissed if a vanilla game got bait and switched in last update to suddenly be a rapey game, or suddenly included NTR when it was not clear it'd be like that from the beginning.
I've said it in the past but HW could of easily appeased both sides if he just turned it into a corruption game he had all the systems in place to do so as well and corruption games have almost always been insanely popular, absolute missed opportunity.
He says, after clicking the reply button to waste keystrokes telling people how he doesn't want to waste keystrokes on it.
I don't care if a game is vanilla or rape-heavy (even though as tentacle lover I guess I should be inclined to the second type), but damn, if the theme of the game is pretty obvious towards one side, in this case rape, at least have the decency of keeping the logic.
Devs had so much talk in them during development of this one. What came out in the end? Full of flaws, pretty weak game that fails at everything.
All those cosplay events, all those thousands upon thousands of words. For f-ing nothing.
Seems like gems are not made by promises/years of development/events/discord mods/etc. They are made by people that have "it" in them (sounds a bit wrong considering the context here
) and that "it" stands for "an idea". There is no way anyone in that dev team had anything to do with ideas - just make some sad excuse of a game, go for cheap-but-loud ads and here goes some cash. Well, considering that they are agreeing with the fact that the game is still not finished, amounts of cash collected were not what they thought are they going to get, not by a long shot
All those cosplay events, all those thousands upon thousands of words. For f-ing nothing.
Seems like gems are not made by promises/years of development/events/discord mods/etc. They are made by people that have "it" in them (sounds a bit wrong considering the context here
) and that "it" stands for "an idea". There is no way anyone in that dev team had anything to do with ideas - just make some sad excuse of a game, go for cheap-but-loud ads and here goes some cash. Well, considering that they are agreeing with the fact that the game is still not finished, amounts of cash collected were not what they thought are they going to get, not by a long shot
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IIRC the dev has been reasonably open about the level of revenue he derives from the game. It's trivial to compare this rate with other jobs at about the same intersection of skill and time investment, though of course that does not account for "luck". First-mover advantage is a helluva drug.amounts of cash collected were not what they thought are they going to get, not by a long shot
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There's no excuse for releasing an unfinished game.
I am not sure what profession you're speaking off beyond HR, but sounds like they are overpaid either way. But without being facetious: most professions in this day and age would fire you for this level of effort years ago, we don't live in age of milk and honey anymore and these jobs are more replaceable day by day given you're comparing them to a professional world.
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Wow, you're right, some of the defeat CG dialogue is a bit immersion breaking, especially if you're not building for lewd stats/run. I've followed the development of this game on and off, though the changed script isn't a big dealbreaker for me, but I can see why some followers might be disappointed.
Does anyone know when the dialogue were changed, the oldest version of the game I still have is 0.27EX, but I think it only has the lava levels. Does anyone else have a later version pre-change. I'm curious and I'd like to compare.
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well, that last bit I wrote there out of spite, you are right about it if we to speak in a serious manner