Hungover00

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And letting your wife pay off your debt in a smut film is not evil? This guy totally deserves to become a beta bitch. No way would I let my wife even remotely get involved in this scenario. I hope it offers a path to make him my sissy bitch. You don't have to be a "toxic" alpha male to know this guy deserves what's coming to him. Teaching him sharing is caring.
You want to fuck Tommy?
 

Beep002

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There's a big difference between 'fuck' and 'fuck with.' It seemed ninjasmurf73 wanted to put his penis inside of Tommy.
So I misinterpreted it. I didn't expect the 'fuck' to be literal, in fact I just caught the conversation going by and I don't know what each person defends, but I think I've already made my opinion clear and what my 'side' is.
 

Beep002

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I'm going to leave my opinion here and not that it's any use, if the developer decides to remove Netori (which he has every right to do, after all he's the developer) he'll be removing the main thing that makes this game different from other generic corruption games. And mainly the fact that it's dark (in terms of the characters' emotions) is what makes it even better, it's very difficult to find games of this style. There's a lack of characters that only care about themselves these days.
 

Hungover00

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I'm going to leave my opinion here and not that it's any use, if the developer decides to remove Netori (which he has every right to do, after all he's the developer) he'll be removing the main thing that makes this game different from other generic corruption games. And mainly the fact that it's dark (in terms of the characters' emotions) is what makes it even better, it's very difficult to find games of this style. There's a lack of characters that only care about themselves these days.
I have no problem with the MC stealing the woman off a man that tries to pimp out his wife to cover his debts. That seems just. He offered her up, and is surprised when the offering is accepted more enthusiastically than he hoped?
 

ninjasmurf73

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There's a big difference between 'fuck' and 'fuck with.' It seemed ninjasmurf73 wanted to put his penis inside of Tommy.
Why not both? Look I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea. It's really a matter of Occam's razor here. I do not know how well the point system is fleshed out in this game. I heavily focused on the lust aspect. Her eyes flashed red just before the end of the last update. She's mine. He is now a liability or an asset. He will get spiteful. He will eventually get angry and want revenge. Nip it in the bud right here. Kill him or make him "useful" either sexually or asexually. Either way he needs broken mentally or needs to permanently disappear.
 

Beep002

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I have no problem with the MC stealing the woman off a man that tries to pimp out his wife to cover his debts. That seems just. He offered her up, and is surprised when the offering is accepted more enthusiastically than he hoped?
EXACTLY, this was all Tommy's choice. It’s not like the MC manipulated events to make him arrive at this decision. He knew exactly what he was getting into and chose to ignore the consequences. Not to mention that, unfortunately for Tommy, he happened to cross paths with the MC.

And I’ll say it again: if you remove the Netori and the darker aspects, you’re stripping away the very traits that make this game stand out from the others.
 

xsikal

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And I’ll say it again: if you remove the Netori and the darker aspects, you’re stripping away the very traits that make this game stand out from the others.
Agreed. TBH, that update concerned me a bit. The developer can do whatever they want with their game, of course, but changing the established tone or veering away from it because you feel bad for one of your characters (who was created to be in that situation and fit that narrative) makes me really question the developer's commitment to the themes they established.

And again, that's entirely their choice, but a writer has to understand the characters are there to serve the narrative not undo it. Feel empathy for a character, sure, but do what needs to be done anyway, or you risk losing the focus that gives stories their strength.

Just my $0.02. Again, it's their game, and again, we'll see how dramatic (if at all) the changes to the game end up being. It's just not a comforting take to read in a dev update for a game where netori has played a strong role so far.
 

FunkyMunky60

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This game imo is one of the better AVNs going at the moment, but the Dev's thoughts in his update of 15 Jan was a worrying read. As a supporter of the game, the Dev having such an epiphany this far into the game is quite disappointing.
 
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burbero

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It's a good game, but it's basically no different from a porno. I would be talking about something else if there was a bit more story progression instead of creating so many sex scenes. I mean, Meredith and Maxime, with these characters, we already get scenes naturally, so why are we doing all this in dreams for the sake of more sex scenes? When I read the reviews, I found a lot of people praising the story of the game, but I didn't find what I was hoping for.
 

ArchX

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Oh, I like to find gems like this so much!
I'm not particularly fond of milf characters, (still not) but in this... they're well constructed, interesting. Maybe the story and a build-up helps in that way... the facial expressions is absolutely one of the best I've seen so far.
Still...still I like the others better especially Julia. Oh boy.
Ruby is kinda "Yay or Nay" now. Not much "screen time", but with small screen time... Brie... Yay, all the way!

Storywise... not bad. Kinda confusing in some bits... for example: I read with care, but there is not enough info about the MC's past and when they/he speak about his mother (like with Brie) ... I'm just confused. I can't recall where was the lore for it.

I know that at the beginning there was 2 maybe 3 dialog options with the "father" that mentioned something about it, but if you wanted to know something else that part never gonna be mentioned again later or an another form... or I seriously missed something. Idk.
 

OleJackRipper

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This game imo is one of the better AVNs going at the moment, but the Dev's thoughts in his update of 15 Jan was a worrying read. As a supporter of the game, the Dev having such an epiphany this far into the game is quite disappointing.
15th of Jan?
Patreon or the game already out?
 

OleJackRipper

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And letting your wife pay off your debt in a smut film is not evil? This guy totally deserves to become a beta bitch. No way would I let my wife even remotely get involved in this scenario. I hope it offers a path to make him my sissy bitch. You don't have to be a "toxic" alpha male to know this guy deserves what's coming to him. Teaching him sharing is caring.
There's a difference between evil and being pathetic due to not being able.
With the mc's father demon causing this scenario. Tommy literally had no choice.
Unless you plan on going for something like kill Tommy and Meredith, organ trafficking or something.
But yeah. I can tell you really don't mind the difference.
 

Adhdclassic

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We all knew Tommy would suffer a consequence. Since taking his wife was the theme him being cucked was already cemented. The best they can do for him after is make him forget Meredith.
 

Rehwyn

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We all knew Tommy would suffer a consequence. Since taking his wife was the theme him being cucked was already cemented. The best they can do for him after is make him forget Meredith.
Unless of course he discovers he's into being cucked/sharing and decides to roll with it (as hinted might be a possibility on some paths).
 
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Varrilete

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And letting your wife pay off your debt in a smut film is not evil? This guy totally deserves to become a beta bitch. No way would I let my wife even remotely get involved in this scenario. I hope it offers a path to make him my sissy bitch. You don't have to be a "toxic" alpha male to know this guy deserves what's coming to him. Teaching him sharing is caring.
Agree, would be awsome to turn him into a bimbo shemale LOL
 
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