1tomadeira

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The mom work out minus the sex was added, the photography story and jobs was added and expanded a fair bit. A few other minor things was added as well. The football and volleyball was not added at least not yet. Eventually they will be but might get repurposed and used at the Uni instead.



It is more complicated than that. They only show up if you write a event they are in, then they will always show up when that event triggers. As far as when the event triggers that is up to the person that writes it and what they set as a trigger. So you can make it a random event, triggered by doing other content first, certain time of the day, certain time of the year or any combination of that. Hopefully that answers your question.
Thank you for the answers. I understood perfectly the answer for the 2nd question, but for the first my issue was that if the events could duplicate by existing in game and in the mod, or if the QSP detects that and deletes one of them. I think it isn't possible to avoid if I understood correctly, specially if they spawn automaticly with location instead of a link, but I just wondered that to see if I could try to reinvest stuff from abandoned mods or not. Just used Added Flavour as an example because I believe it is the one that had most things added to show my issue, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Sad for volleyball though. While I understand the reasoning, I hope similar stuff in the future is added, at some point those were pretty fun and something different in game to enjoy a bit. It gave more variety, even without any kind of sex stuff.
 
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Thank you for the answers. I understood perfectly the answer for the 2nd question, but for the first my issue was that if the events could duplicate by existing in game and in the mod, or if the QSP detects that and deletes one of them. I think it isn't possible to avoid if I understood correctly, specially if they spawn automaticly with location instead of a link, but I just wondered that to see if I could try to reinvest stuff from abandoned mods or not. Just used Added Flavour as an example because I believe it is the one that had most things added to show my issue, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Sad for volleyball though. While I understand the reasoning, I hope similar stuff in the future is added, at some point those were pretty fun and something different in game to enjoy a bit. It gave more variety, even without any kind of sex stuff.
Depends on how the mod handles it. If you have both there might be two photography stores for example. Or their could only be one and I am not sure in that case if the main game would be the one that shows or the mod. I honestly have no clue, I personally never use mods so I don't know a lot about exactly how they work. I just know in the most general of terms how they work.
 
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Depends on how the mod handles it. If you have both there might be two photography stores for example. Or their could only be one and I am not sure in that case if the main game would be the one that shows or the mod. I honestly have no clue, I personally never use mods so I don't know a lot about exactly how they work. I just know in the most general of terms how they work.
Alright, thank you for the answer.
 

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Feeling like another playthrough of the game, but just wondering if any of the attributes have changed, e.g. does Charisma do anything, is Reaction still the most important thing for combat. Oh and Perception. If these have changed It'd be cool to do a run about them maybe.

Also is stun and the attribute boost spell still the same? i.e. are they the only spells you need and win everything.
 
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Feeling like another playthrough of the game, but just wondering if any of the attributes have changed, e.g. does Charisma do anything, is Reaction still the most important thing for combat. Oh and Perception. If these have changed It'd be cool to do a run about them maybe.

Also is stun and the attribute boost spell still the same? i.e. are they the only spells you need and win everything.
We haven’t changed any attributes but have started adding some seeding for the lesser used ones, it’s something we have to do even more of. Those spells are op and will get hit with the nerf hammer when I get home from my holidays.
What do I need to do / edit to stop attributes's degradation over time?

(No, I don't want to max attributes via cheat menu every day, but I believe the -1 / -2 decrease in attributes over the course of a single day is way too much and I'd like to modify or even better - eliminate that)

Thx.

Edit. It's not in cikl, stat, stat_sklattrib or stat_sklattrib_lvlset either.
Just doing a little on each will halt deg. The time it will take to start to drop is directly linked to how high the atribute level is so at 100 it will drop after a day or two. This is to make it essentially impossible to maintain maxed skill/attributes.
Honestly don't know that is up to Kevin who is on vacation in RL. He is the one that makes decisions like that.
At this point we are already started on 0.8.6 so unless there is something really bad we’ll soldier on.
 
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chichong

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Just doing a little on each will halt deg. The time it will take to start to drop is directly linked to how high the atribute level is so at 100 it will drop after a day or two. This is to make it essentially impossible to maintain maxed skill/attributes.
I sort of figured the reason behind degradation myself, lol.
I'm asking for the specific location of the degradation function in order to disable it.
I've already added an extra option to Tatiana's menu to "increase all attributes", while changing the rand to (10,15), but it's still a bother to teleport to St. Petersburg, every 1-2 days.

I realize this might upset some overprotective coders, but honestly, you don't become dumber if you don't read 2 days or clumsier if you don't play hula-hop for 3. Same for skills - but for those I managed to find the location. The speed of degradation really doesn't make sense.



.... and speaking of "sense" - I *still* struggle to comprehend the logic behind "if you want to fuck a certain girl, you must let a certain guy fuck you first" or "you must drink vine each time you want to sleep with x".

Also it seems there is *still* no way to stay virgin and avoid rape in Christina storyline. All three "defenders" require at least one intercourse in order to become available for phone call.
Black sash in kb AND combat magic *still* can't help because reasons (I raised this issue more than 1 year ago).

I understand the idea behind game being modular and modules being made of different people with obvious communication issues. But it hurts us, the players, unfortunately. :((

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That being said... Sveta's a 10 ffs. If a freak like Delphine (an indulgent 6 - maybe 7) made morons pay for her bathwater, Sveta should be able to start world wars with a smile, not struggle to find a decent boyfriend or girlfriend.
 

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The one with the most content is the jocks, dancer or runner having the easiest time. With that though all the social groups are going to have their own content. Like the nerds have nerd gaming night for example. Right now it is mostly RPing but in time each social group will have specific story arcs and events just for them.
Thanks for the input. Dancer and Runner do appeal to me as well. Maybe I'll give that one a try.
 

tomcatz

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Yes, though I am not sure if you are asking about stats or images, but the answer is yes to both.
I remember that in a very old version years ago when you reached the herculean phisyque people said that you were fat and disgusting, is still the same thing?
 

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Right now the only content that is more or less gated behind social group is
nerds game night - nerds
nerds study night - nerds
runner - jocks though others can do it but it isn't easy
volleyball - see runner above
starlets - jocks or cool kid but it is hard to get stats up enough in time if not a jock dancer start has the best chance
cheerleading - jocks and cool kids

Gopniks are the only group so far with no content tied to their social group. the jocks and cool kids have a lot of over lap and they do in school already.
Just nlike to point out that while Gopiks don't have anything tied to their group, they start with fake ID so modelling/porn is available early on.
 
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Nutluck

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To reply to a few points you made.

I sort of figured the reason behind degradation myself, lol.
I'm asking for the specific location of the degradation function in order to disable it.
I've already added an extra option to Tatiana's menu to "increase all attributes", while changing the rand to (10,15), but it's still a bother to teleport to St. Petersburg, every 1-2 days.

I realize this might upset some overprotective coders, but honestly, you don't become dumber if you don't read 2 days or clumsier if you don't play hula-hop for 3. Same for skills - but for those I managed to find the location. The speed of degradation really doesn't make sense.
They go down that fast because currently they go up really fast. No one in RL goes from a 110 pound teen girl to one of the strongest women around in less than a year which is how fast you can do it in game. In RL that takes many years, so because you can do it fast to balance it you lose it faster. As we add more ingame years worth of content so more things to do for longer, we will be slowing down stat gain, which means slowing down stat lose.


.... and speaking of "sense" - I *still* struggle to comprehend the logic behind "if you want to fuck a certain girl, you must let a certain guy fuck you first" or "you must drink vine each time you want to sleep with x".
Which girl requires you to have sex with a guy first? The second part I know is Julia and the person working on her stopped her story is far from finished that is just all there is, basically the flirting stage until sex starts and then it stops.

Also it seems there is *still* no way to stay virgin and avoid rape in Christina storyline. All three "defenders" require at least one intercourse in order to become available for phone call.
Black sash in kb AND combat magic *still* can't help because reasons (I raised this issue more than 1 year ago).
That fight is winnable, but not easy. Few people let alone a teen girl can beat three men in a fight. With that said Christina's whole story is getting revamped, her's is still the same as it was in ETO more or less. Someone is working on her story.

I understand the idea behind game being modular and modules being made of different people with obvious communication issues. But it hurts us, the players, unfortunately. :((

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That being said... Sveta's a 10 ffs. If a freak like Delphine (an indulgent 6 - maybe 7) made morons pay for her bathwater, Sveta should be able to start world wars with a smile, not struggle to find a decent boyfriend or girlfriend.
Delphine might be a 6 or 7 in your eyes but in others eyes she will be a 10. In RL how good looking someone is, is very subjective. Also it should be fairly hard to hit 10 appearance with out cheats. It is suppose to be fairly easy to hit 6-7 but not so easy to hit above that.
 

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I remember that in a very old version years ago when you reached the herculean phisyque people said that you were fat and disgusting, is still the same thing?
It shouldn't but I can't say for sure, that is a area that coders work on because stuff like that is 95% code with only small blurbs of text.
 

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Just nlike to point out that while Gopiks don't have anything tied to their group, they start with fake ID so modelling/porn is available early on.
True, but anyone can get that, it is just easier for them. But I was mostly talking about stuff that is designed for social groups and others can't do it or it is super hard for them to get their stats/skills up in time. Some you just can't do unless you are in the right social groups and more of that will be added in time.
 

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Just curious, is the first time I got invitations from both gopniks and nerds. I noticed that if I join one of them the popularity on others decreases, but does the game allow to join another after increasing the popularity again? Or am I forced to be in none if I want to be popular with all?

Also, there isn't a specific event for jocks? Or is jocks/cool mixed?
 

Nutluck

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Just curious, is the first time I got invitations from both gopniks and nerds. I noticed that if I join one of them the popularity on others decreases, but does the game allow to join another after increasing the popularity again? Or am I forced to be in none if I want to be popular with all?

Also, there isn't a specific event for jocks? Or is jocks/cool mixed?
You can join as many as you want, it goes down when you join one mostly by player request. As it could spam you with invites every day to different groups. So we put in a drop to all the other groups other than the one you joined so you have to put in some effort to switch again.

Jocks have the most but none of it is locked to jocks only.
Running story arc - anyone can do it but jocks have the easiest time getting their stats high enough to start it in time.
volleyball - same as above
starlets - in theory a cool kid could join but unless you start at the begining of summer you won't get your stats and skills high enough in time.
cheerleading - similar to starlets but not as bad.

The jocks and cool kids have a fair bit of overlap in school as does their story arcs. You find them hanging out in school and the disco together. If a cool kid throws a party the jocks are often invited etc.
 

1tomadeira

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You can join as many as you want, it goes down when you join one mostly by player request. As it could spam you with invites every day to different groups. So we put in a drop to all the other groups other than the one you joined so you have to put in some effort to switch again.

Jocks have the most but none of it is locked to jocks only.
Running story arc - anyone can do it but jocks have the easiest time getting their stats high enough to start it in time.
volleyball - same as above
starlets - in theory a cool kid could join but unless you start at the begining of summer you won't get your stats and skills high enough in time.
cheerleading - similar to starlets but not as bad.

The jocks and cool kids have a fair bit of overlap in school as does their story arcs. You find them hanging out in school and the disco together. If a cool kid throws a party the jocks are often invited etc.
Thank you for the fast answer. Sorry if it sounds confusing, for what I understood I can change, but that also means I can be in several groups at once? Or am I forced to change between groups? Because you mentioned spam invites to different groups, but they are only 4. I don't mean the arcs like volleyball, starlets etc, but being on nerd and gopnik social groups at the same time for example.
 

LymeTime

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Cool, already seen quite a few new things. Is music good now? I guess it's lessons at the community centre to do music?
 

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Thank you for the fast answer. Sorry if it sounds confusing, for what I understood I can change, but that also means I can be in several groups at once? Or am I forced to change between groups? Because you mentioned spam invites to different groups, but they are only 4. I don't mean the arcs like volleyball, starlets etc, but being on nerd and gopnik social groups at the same time for example.
You can't join multiple groups. It's one or the other and you have to choose.
 

LymeTime

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Not sure if I remember what the different things train:
Skipping - reaction and endurance?
Yoga - agility and spirit?
Hoola hoop - agility and endurance?

I remember there was a wiki that listed what the training did and how much of each, but I guess that died in the wiki porn purge.
 

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Not sure if I remember what the different things train:
Skipping - reaction and endurance?
Yoga - agility and spirit?
Hoola hoop - agility and endurance?

I remember there was a wiki that listed what the training did and how much of each, but I guess that died in the wiki porn purge.
According to the wiki you're right about yoga ( but it states that skipping and hoops both train reaction and agility (but hoops give less xp so seems kind of pointless if it's accurate).

Link to current wiki:

Here's where it gives the only info about it I've found:
 
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They go down that fast because currently they go up really fast. No one in RL goes from a 110 pound teen girl to one of the strongest women around in less than a year which is how fast you can do it in game. In RL that takes many years, so because you can do it fast to balance it you lose it faster. As we add more ingame years worth of content so more things to do for longer, we will be slowing down stat gain, which means slowing down stat lose.
That actually makes a lot of sense. Still doesn't answers my question regarding which module contains degradation code, but at least provides a logical reason for it's speed. Thanks.

Which girl requires you to have sex with a guy first? The second part I know is Julia and the person working on her stopped her story is far from finished that is just all there is, basically the flirting stage until sex starts and then it stops.
Katja. In order to progress in her storyline you need to sleep with Ivan. And btw, no matter what answer you chose when kissing her in school, you are still forced to kiss Ivan.

That fight is winnable, but not easy. Few people let alone a teen girl can beat three men in a fight. With that said Christina's whole story is getting revamped, her's is still the same as it was in ETO more or less. Someone is working on her story.
Last time I checked, with or without "win every fight" cheat activated, there was still no fight. Just blackout then rape.

But thanks for the answers. I mean it. And happy new year btw :)
 
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