QSP Girl Life [v0.9.3.1] [community project]

[Kassan06969]

Whenever someone calls and arranges a time to pick her up, they never show up. Is it supposed to be at a specific place? I tried in the apartment and outside.

 

[Nutluck]

there is option for the chat but when i click page is blank..
there is also isue when you visit grandma she call MC Sveta even if MC change name...
also isue in sport club volleyball etc i can only visit once and thats it next event i cant click "no option"

The chat is likely just some legacy code that was missed.

I passed it all along to the coders to check out.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

The reason Anya called her a antagonist is she pushes Sveta aka you to be what she wants instead of letting you be what you want to be. She gets angry if you get a slut rep, lose your virginity etc, despite the fact she herself is a big slut and if find out about her past, she was a big slut in school herself. She means well she wants what is best for her kids but she is overly controlling about it and ignores their wants and wishes.

She is a slut, but she is also straight. She is one of the straight characters in the world, she has no interest in other girls sexual at all, let alone her own daughters.

yes other have asked but then just about every kink has been asked for with every NPC. As I mentioned in my other post, if all the NPC's where bi, they all would do any kink or fetish etc, they would feel less real. People are just not all the same, they have different likes and dislikes, wants and desires etc and we do our best to capture that in the game.

We have a big list of NPC's sexual orientation and it is more than just gay, straight, bi. like some can hook up with the same sex under the right circumstances... just for fun, only when drunk, etc but would never consider a relationship with them. While others are gay but might hook up with opposite gender from time to time for the same reason, and then some are truly bisexual. We have a much higher number of bi girls than is realistic but it is a porn game so we error that way, but we still want variety so some are not. We even have a few asexual characters who have no interest in sex of any kind.

And yes many sluts especially girls are bi, but not all of them are and we have that in our game.

You are free to ask questions and make suggestions, we like it when you do.

I still maintain that it's a silly decision. Why limit the game like that? If Sveta can be corrupted to do basically anything, then why can't the mom? Just make it a slow gradual process. I get that the writers of the game, yourself included, don't want to do that and that's fine but it just seems like an arbitrary decisions to me. Your being able to have sex with your entire family minus one character just makes the decision seem weak at best.

 

[zaqwsxcde1]

Whenever someone calls and arranges a time to pick her up, they never show up. Is it supposed to be at a specific place? I tried in the apartment and outside.

It's usually your current home location (click that character description/ head icon for more details). If it's meeting someone at Pavlovsk--> market .If he/ she picking u up from home at Pavlovsk--> residential area. So meeting can be anywhere but picking sticks to your home location.

 

[zaqwsxcde1]

I still maintain that it's a silly decision. Why limit the game like that? If Sveta can be corrupted to do basically anything, then why can't the mom? Just make it a slow gradual process. I get that the writers of the game, yourself included, don't want to do that and that's fine but it just seems like an arbitrary decisions to me. Your being able to have sex with your entire family minus one character just makes the decision seem weak at best.

That's the point of mother character - being " hypocrite " .

 

[Nutluck]

I still maintain that it's a silly decision. Why limit the game like that? If Sveta can be corrupted to do basically anything, then why can't the mom? Just make it a slow gradual process. I get that the writers of the game, yourself included, don't want to do that and that's fine but it just seems like an arbitrary decisions to me. Your being able to have sex with your entire family minus one character just makes the decision seem weak at best.

You are of course free to disagree.

but your argument that since Sveta can be why not mom. Could be applied to every NPC in the game, then if every NPC in the game can be corrupted to be total bi sluts, they start feeling similar and lose part of what makes them unique.

I personally don't care if it is the mom or another NPC, but I believe the game needs variety among the NPC's. As I posted above, some are straight, asexual, bisexual, gay or anything in between. Some can be corrupted and some will corrupt others, some are innocent and nice, etc.

As a group at varies stages of the game development we discussed the personalities of the NPC's and set up them up. Making notes on what that NPC is like so they are the same from scene to scene, even when used in a cameo in someone else's story. We on purpose gave them a bit of a variety of differences. We didn't want all the family for example to be into incest and the majority felt mom made the most sense based on her established personality. I mean she is the only immediate family member you can't have sex with.

 

[Kassan06969]

TBH having any asexual NPCs in an adult game, unless they can't be interacted with at all, makes no sense. It would be like adding an Amish total pacifist character to a Mortal Kombat game.

 

[Daekas]

Okay, i can respect that the mom doesn't want in on whatever sveta is doing.
Here goes another question, tho;

If she's not interested in Sveta, what about letting Sveta Join them in the bedroom?
No lesbian content, just sveta and mom sharing.

I mean, one could go for, let's say..
The mom's overly protective and all, but what about she get's furious over and over again about Sveta slutting around, gets frustrated and scared that she ends up like herself, pregant way too young and so on.
That Sveta and Mom cut a deal.. Yeah, you've seen it coming.
Sveta is allowed to 'slut around' but only when the mom can control this behaviour, aka in their bedroom.

Woudln't that fit well into your story/character-building AND into the antagonistic role, as well into your choice of 'not everyone's sexable'?

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

We didn't want all the family for example to be into incest and the majority felt mom made the most sense based on her established personality. I mean she is the only immediate family member you can't have sex with.

This is what I don't understand. WHY was this decided when the majority of players would want otherwise?

 

[Grim]

This is what I don't understand. WHY was this decided when the majority of players would want otherwise?

I'm not sure where you're getting the statistic that the majority of players want that, but it's also a fool's errand to try to appeal to every person, and terrible from a world building perspective for every character to behave the same way and be into every fetish.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

This is what I don't understand. WHY was this decided when the majority of players would want otherwise?

Where does it say majority of players? "We" as in a majority of the devs, not us the players, decided that.
As for why we can't I think more why should we be able to? We can make Sveta do just about anything because she's our character. It makes sense how we could manipulate her into having sex with her step dad, or her brother because we're the ones controlling how she responds to their advances. Since we can't control how Natasha responds to our advances we'd just run into a brick wall if she's not into it.
Maybe a mom mod on the same scale as the Kolka mod could work, but then you're dealing with non canon solo development. New game updates will likely break your mod, and you're gonna need to come up with a lot of of content, and you'll need a lot of pictures and mp4s to fill that content.
Considering the majority of the dev team isn't interested in developing her that way, I'm guessing they also aren't interested in devoting the man hours to doing all of that work for it. Like I think it's a good thing that the devs are here reading our suggestions and shit but you really need to learn to take a no. Arguing that a bunch of free volunteers should dedicate their time to making content they aren't interested in making is kinda entitled tbh.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

I'm not sure where you're getting the statistic that the majority of players want that, but it's also a fool's errand to try to appeal to every person, and terrible from a world building perspective for every character to behave the same way and be into every fetish.

Imma be real with you chief, I just want to fuck the mom... but seriously I'm going by the astounding prevalence of incest porn out there both in videos, and games. And the appealing to everyone argument doesn't work when you can already sleep with your sister as that's the same fetish.

Where does it say majority of players? "We" as in a majority of the devs, not us the players, decided that.
As for why we can't I think more why should we be able to? We can make Sveta do just about anything because she's our character. It makes sense how we could manipulate her into having sex with her step dad, or her brother because we're the ones controlling how she responds to their advances. Since we can't control how Natasha responds to our advances we'd just run into a brick wall if she's not into it.
Maybe a mom mod on the same scale as the Kolka mod could work, but then you're dealing with non canon solo development. New game updates will likely break your mod, and you're gonna need to come up with a lot of of content, and you'll need a lot of pictures and mp4s to fill that content.
Considering the majority of the dev team isn't interested in developing her that way, I'm guessing they also aren't interested in devoting the man hours to doing all of that work for it. Like I think it's a good thing that the devs are here reading our suggestions and shit but you really need to learn to take a no. Arguing that a bunch of free volunteers should dedicate their time to making content they aren't interested in making is kinda entitled tbh.

When did I say they should dedicate their time to do anything? I was just questioning the decision. No where did I say they had to change anything. I get that the devs don't want to write the mom that way, and I don't expect them to change it just because some random shmuck doesn't like it. (It's me, I'm the random shmuck)

 

[Daekas]

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Stop fighting over it, there's no reason for that.
We have to accept the dev's decision.

Tho, to be fair, i don't really get it either.
From what ive seen over the last couple... 100 pages or so, yeah, I've been bored..
People keep asking about it, not a single time did i see someone being like "oh noe, the mom must not be corrupted" or something like that, if you catch my drift.

The devs then state "no" in one way or another and the one who's been asking then acts mostly dissapointed in one way or another. I do get that they want to keep some realism and i do appreciate this, too many games don't care for that and go all turbo-slut from the getgo.. But Sveta basically is already some kind of turbo-slut and this game also features magic, succubi and fairies.. Y'know?
Not only that, from what ive seen over .. I think i've been around since 0.6 somethin? Not sure.
The mom, given who she is and was, should stop acting like she does once she found sveta slutting around. Period.
It just doesn't fit the built character at all that she still tries to stop her after accepting, more or less, that her daugher is "Like mother like daughter, i guess". Especially when thinking about that Aunt Luda basically set the mood with like "you would be surprised" and little hints and teases like that.

I get if the devs then tell me that they see the mom in a different way..
But i, as the player, given everything available, given moms past, present, aunt Luda, the Sister, the entire situation...
I do have to say, i feel like, no matter what you intended the mom to be, she came out differently.
So.. Either change her, more or less, to better fit the antagonistic, 'prudish' role, you wanted her to fit in - or expand on what the game constantly hints at and teases you with. That, at least, is my humble opinion about it.

I do think that there's not a single player/fan that would say no to that - and i would even predict more people getting into it, given that this is a huge thing nowadays, incest'n all. It's a guess, sure, but a pretty good one, i'd say.
And, if they just don't have the time to write stuff like that, but would, if they could - I'd volunteer for that, no problem! For free, of course.

Again, no hard feelings, just my pov, my opinion.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

I do get that they want to keep some realism

Realism? How could they, the sick bastards. I've never heard of such degeneracy before, they should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Grim]

Stop fighting over it, there's no reason for that.

I'm not sure why you can't have a disagreement without it being "fighting", but interpret it as you will

 

[Nutluck]

TBH having any asexual NPCs in an adult game, unless they can't be interacted with at all, makes no sense. It would be like adding an Amish total pacifist character to a Mortal Kombat game.

The game is also a life sim, not just a adult game. As I said before if you can have sex with everyone it kills a bit of the immersion. In RL there is straight girls, or gay guys that have no interest in having sex with girls. If you remove that, the game world feels less real. So while GL is a porn game, it is also a sim game that is trying to build a somewhat realistic world, granted it is a porn parody of a world. I mean even in some porno movies not everyone in the movie has sex, same thing here.

The pacifist in mortal kombat is not the same thing. Mortal Kombat is a fight game only, nothing happens in that game other than fights. In GL lots of things other than sex can happen. Now if you wanted to argue having a pacificst in a war campaign game doesn't make sense you could. But then they could still fit as the units medic, as those people existed in RL. There is several famous stories about such pacifist sent off to war. They never killed anyone but they would risk their lives saving others.

Also just because Sveta can not have sex with them, doesn't mean the player can't see porn of said NPC. Either by spying on them, or by having the NPC tell Sveta about their sex events. Which then shows you the player porn images etc as if Sveta was watching it, aka in her mind imagining it while the NPC tells her about it. We already have several examples of both in the game already. So just because Sveta can't directly have sex with them, doesn't mean you the player doesn't get to see it.

 

[Nutluck]

Okay, i can respect that the mom doesn't want in on whatever sveta is doing.
Here goes another question, tho;

If she's not interested in Sveta, what about letting Sveta Join them in the bedroom?
No lesbian content, just sveta and mom sharing.

I mean, one could go for, let's say..
The mom's overly protective and all, but what about she get's furious over and over again about Sveta slutting around, gets frustrated and scared that she ends up like herself, pregant way too young and so on.
That Sveta and Mom cut a deal.. Yeah, you've seen it coming.
Sveta is allowed to 'slut around' but only when the mom can control this behaviour, aka in their bedroom.

Woudln't that fit well into your story/character-building AND into the antagonistic role, as well into your choice of 'not everyone's sexable'?

Because mom doesn't want Sveta to be a slut at all. Also she is against incest, she see's it as wrong. So combine those things and mom is just never going to be involved in sexual content beyond you spying on her when she is unaware. It was just the personality she was given and at this point it has become part of the official games canon, so it's not going to change. Just like Sonia will always fall in the game, it has become part of her core personality and we are never going to change it.

We have people asking for ways to save Sonia so she never falls, but her personality pre fall is established a frustrated girl with a overbearing family that is sick of being the "good girl" decides she just wants to cut lose and parties. Then falls prey to those that want to take advantage of her.

 

[Nutluck]

This is what I don't understand. WHY was this decided when the majority of players would want otherwise?

I have no clue if it is the majority of players. I do know we have a very vocal minority that feel that way. But with out doing a poll there would be no way to know for sure.

But as Grim said after your post, we are buiilding a believable world, at least a porn parody of one which means the NPC's will be different. Personaly I didn't want Dad, step dad, sister, and brother to all be sexable. I felt like that was to many, I felt at most would should have made it half, but we went with more and only had one not be open to sex with the MC which is the mom. But had we made it the mom able to have sex and not the step dad, I am sure we would have the same vocal minority wanting him to have sex content. Maybe not the same people but a similar number asking for it.

 

[Nutluck]

I'm not sure where you're getting the statistic that the majority of players want that, but it's also a fool's errand to try to appeal to every person, and terrible from a world building perspective for every character to behave the same way and be into every fetish.

The bolded part is exactly why we do a lot of the stuff we do when it comes to what NPC's are into what etc.

 

[Nutluck]

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Stop fighting over it, there's no reason for that.

If you guys want to discuss it. That's fine I have no issues discussing it with you guys as I have been. Just keep it a friendly discussion is all that I ask.

We have to accept the dev's decision.

Tho, to be fair, i don't really get it either.
From what ive seen over the last couple... 100 pages or so, yeah, I've been bored..
People keep asking about it, not a single time did i see someone being like "oh noe, the mom must not be corrupted" or something like that, if you catch my drift.

The devs then state "no" in one way or another and the one who's been asking then acts mostly dissapointed in one way or another. I do get that they want to keep some realism and i do appreciate this, too many games don't care for that and go all turbo-slut from the getgo.. But Sveta basically is already some kind of turbo-slut and this game also features magic, succubi and fairies.. Y'know?

Sveta does not have to be a slut, in fact we have had people try and play the whole Pav School game year and stay a virgin. Or just hook up with one or two NPC's and no more to do a much more pure run. yes you can play Sveta as a, as you call it turbo slut, but you don't have to. There is a lot of sex in the game yes, which you the player can choose what you want to have Sveta. Make her a slut and have as much sex as you want? it is a popular choice and likely the way more player play.

Or just have sex with the NPC's you are interested in and ignore the rest. Then on another play through choose different NPC's, we have a fair number of players that play the game that way. There is no wrong or right way to play GL, that's one of our big goals. It is a sand box and you can play how you want, now that does mean you don't always get to do what you want. As we are also trying to build a believableish porn parody of the world. Which means NPC's that are into different things.

Not only that, from what ive seen over .. I think i've been around since 0.6 somethin? Not sure.
The mom, given who she is and was, should stop acting like she does once she found sveta slutting around. Period.
It just doesn't fit the built character at all that she still tries to stop her after accepting, more or less, that her daugher is "Like mother like daughter, i guess". Especially when thinking about that Aunt Luda basically set the mood with like "you would be surprised" and little hints and teases like that.

I get if the devs then tell me that they see the mom in a different way..
But i, as the player, given everything available, given moms past, present, aunt Luda, the Sister, the entire situation...
I do have to say, i feel like, no matter what you intended the mom to be, she came out differently.
So.. Either change her, more or less, to better fit the antagonistic, 'prudish' role, you wanted her to fit in - or expand on what the game constantly hints at and teases you with. That, at least, is my humble opinion about it.

No one said the mom is a prude. Mom is a hypocrite that is the core of her personality. She is and always was a big old slut and now is willing to do anything to keep her kids from turning out like her. Including lying about her past, because she thinks it is a bad way to live your life. So she is very much a mom that says do as a I say not as I do. Which makes her a hypocrite, deep down she has her kids best interest at heart. But her methods are not good methods, this was done on purpose.

I do think that there's not a single player/fan that would say no to that - and i would even predict more people getting into it, given that this is a huge thing nowadays, incest'n all. It's a guess, sure, but a pretty good one, i'd say.
And, if they just don't have the time to write stuff like that, but would, if they could - I'd volunteer for that, no problem! For free, of course.

Again, no hard feelings, just my pov, my opinion.

I think players would say no to it, some of our players I know love the fact that the mom is a hypocrite. Would more by happy with it? I honestly don't know, as I said we have a vocal minority that wants it but are they a majority? I have no clue, but after going on 7 years working on this game. I know people that are happy rarely talk and those that want change or unhappy are far more likely to make posts.