Girlpack releases for Venus's Club [Tobe]
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Hey guys, as someone mentioned here, I released TUSC, a game compatible with VC girlpacks.
While the compatibility is 100% with v7-8-8.1, I already planned different features for the upcoming releases which require additional content (gym, gloryhole and spa/massage performances, different trainings structure, etc.) and I was wondering about the "best strategy" to proceed here.
What do you guys think? Should we reuse this thread also for TUSC packs, should we open a different thread? Should we have a unique Airtable list?
Are you interested into patching/extending your girlpacks? Would a guide been useful for you? Maybe I should produce few girlpacks that you might inspect?
Let me know what do you think (which includes no bothering at all, I won't complain).
While the compatibility is 100% with v7-8-8.1, I already planned different features for the upcoming releases which require additional content (gym, gloryhole and spa/massage performances, different trainings structure, etc.) and I was wondering about the "best strategy" to proceed here.
What do you guys think? Should we reuse this thread also for TUSC packs, should we open a different thread? Should we have a unique Airtable list?
Are you interested into patching/extending your girlpacks? Would a guide been useful for you? Maybe I should produce few girlpacks that you might inspect?
Let me know what do you think (which includes no bothering at all, I won't complain).
I'm not sure how you've constructed performances in your game vs. Venus's Club but if you're adding new content I would think it would be wise to place them within current performance categories but not as the first unlock (gloryhole in oral, massage in foreplay etc.) so that older packs would still be compatible even without the new categories. I tend to intermix massage/gloryhole stuff in with the current categories so switching them up wouldn't be too much of an issue for me.
Maintaining the current thread but with a fully compatible airtable list makes the most sense to me-- a title change would probably be helpful eventually too.
If you're looking for any other suggestions, I would also suggest the addition of a 'girl on girl' or 'girl duo' category in pose probably since its lack always felt a bit like a missed opportunity.
Additionally I always thought it would be a good idea to have 'events' at the start of each day. For example right after the work cycle is complete you're given the option to send x girls to a specific event for the day (or a set number of days). For example, there is a blowjob competition, send 3 girls with good oral skills--they'll be back in three days. Success/Failure or level of payout will be determined by girl skills. This kind of system strengthens the need to have a larger contingent of girls which is something lacking in VC. It also forces the player to make a choice about the benefits of sending girls to events vs. having them in the club to work.
Just some thoughts, take 'em or leave 'em.
Maintaining the current thread but with a fully compatible airtable list makes the most sense to me-- a title change would probably be helpful eventually too.
If you're looking for any other suggestions, I would also suggest the addition of a 'girl on girl' or 'girl duo' category in pose probably since its lack always felt a bit like a missed opportunity.
Additionally I always thought it would be a good idea to have 'events' at the start of each day. For example right after the work cycle is complete you're given the option to send x girls to a specific event for the day (or a set number of days). For example, there is a blowjob competition, send 3 girls with good oral skills--they'll be back in three days. Success/Failure or level of payout will be determined by girl skills. This kind of system strengthens the need to have a larger contingent of girls which is something lacking in VC. It also forces the player to make a choice about the benefits of sending girls to events vs. having them in the club to work.
Just some thoughts, take 'em or leave 'em.
I worry that some of the categories you mention are too niche to produce widespread content, particularly for packs for performers from the early 2000s to about 2012 or so.
It's already difficult to find specialized handjob/footjob content for early performers because those scenes were pretty few and far between at the time, adding 3 additional categories for genres that are relatively recent might make it near to impossible to create a "full pack" for anyone who started the business earlier than the mid-20-teens.
Then you run into the problem of newer performers having a limited number of clips to cull content for the group categories.
I'm interested in your thoughts on having gym, gloryhole and massage being widespread enough to create diverse content without leaving a lot of categories unfilled.
This was my initial impression from when I saw the way you'd set up your sample. I could be wrong but I've gone through A LOT of porn since I started putting these packs together and I'm just not certain the content for your added categories is going to be widely available for any but performers that started within the past 8-10 years or so.
I agree the addition of some girl on girl stuff would be nice. I've been playing around with my own partially compatible game using these girlpacks as a starting point and have added a few additional options for mine. I have FF, FFM, MMF, and MMFF, with FF just being anything with only girls (could be more than 2), FFM being anything with more than 1 girl but only 1 guy, MMF being anything with more than 1 guy but only 1 girl, and MMFF being more like swinger or orgy content with more than 1 guy and more than 1 girl.
Personally, I didn't see much value in having multiple categories for a single sex act like missionary, doggy, etc. So for my game my sex category just has vaginal, anal, and lesbo (I kind of fudged this one to include basically 69 or penetration with toys).
Also to get around a few of the things I had issues with for Venus club, I made a default pack with several videos of every type in it so if a category gets picked for a girl who has zero videos in that category it just plays a default video instead. I also want the option to block or substitute acts that I don't personally care for. For instance in my case no footjobs, replace with blowjobs (defined globally instead of on a per girl basis).
I agree with you that such categories are VERY specific, and thus it would be hard to have a single pack to fulfil everything. Even with VC the dance category is just a wild mess, as people just – correctly – try to provides videos for the specific girl into that scope to keep "a good experience".
Nevertheless, there are a few substantial differences in how TUSC is designed, and in particular:
- there's no such concept as "default" videos that will be used as fallbacks, and there's no magic involved in pack data: if videos are provided for the specific performance then the girl is able to perform it, otherwise she won't.
- in TUSC you have stage and vip (and in future other areas), which means performances are split between the areas. A girl missing specific performances won't be allocated to that specific area, that's it. Which also mean you can have a girl just doing foreplay and oral but no dance or pose.
- in TUSC the night phase (stage/VIP) is only one phase of the game. You have an action-based turn during the day, which relies on different dynamics
All this considered, in TUSC there's no really need to have a "complete" pack, as the different content serves different purposes during different game phases (eg: the gym content is only involved in the day phase). And thus, my idea is not to have a widespread content out there for ALL the categories I intended to add to the game; but to have a widespread content in terms of packs diversification. Is there a pack out there for a girl which practically have only massage contents? Cool, I can grab it and set the girl to work in the spa. Another pack provides tons of gloryhole content? Then I will put the girl in the appropriate rotation.
That's basically my point: promote diversity rather than forced standardization.
Of course this will work only if people creating the content feel the same way.
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If you are going to have no default videos, a stance I generally agree with, then you have to be very robust in dealing with missing categories. In the current game, if you train a girl to the point of giving handjobs, but she has nothing in the finish->body->body category, that girl will hang the game if you click the finish button. I would suggest that the game work it's way up the finish categories and display an appropriate choice.
And in the current beta, something is going on during main stage performances that cause it to get stuck on the 'loading' screen. I don't know exactly what, as I have no way of knowing what video the game is trying to load. But the game tries to load the video before displaying the "Back" button, so you are stuck and have to restart.
And in the current beta, something is going on during main stage performances that cause it to get stuck on the 'loading' screen. I don't know exactly what, as I have no way of knowing what video the game is trying to load. But the game tries to load the video before displaying the "Back" button, so you are stuck and have to restart.
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...but we are way off-topic here, boys. This is the girlpack section. Can I suggest we move this discussion to the tusc section?
As to the part of the discussion that IS relevant to this section: I would hate to see the girlpack section fragment. I don't want to have to look in multiple places for new girl releases. So if we can get this title changed to something like 'universal girlpacks', I would be cool with that.
As to the part of the discussion that IS relevant to this section: I would hate to see the girlpack section fragment. I don't want to have to look in multiple places for new girl releases. So if we can get this title changed to something like 'universal girlpacks', I would be cool with that.
Here's my latest girlpack -- the blonde and beautiful Riley Steele! I remembered her from her digital playground days and after building this pack I realized she was a lot nastier then (and even more so, now) so she ended up being a lot more fun to pack than I initially thought. There's nothing she won't do. 2GB.
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That GP was on my bucket list and I am glad, that I can cross that out now 
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Inextricably linked to Jesse Jane in my mind, from all the DP movies they did together. Now that Jesse was done, I was missing Riley! Nice job!
Just wanted to post saying (and holding my self accountable) that I am almost finished a Vicky Vette pack, and that this pack and all future packs will be made with "The Ultimate Stripper Club" in mind. I will also look through packs I have already created and modifying them to fit with TUSC
I will say what I think 1st having all this material already done allows it to be improved with a good base, for example I would like to update Lupe Fuentes's pack with videos with sound and more deepfakes for the game
2nd on the specific categories you can always be more permissive, for example practically all the pornstars have made a scene in a boat or beach pool because you can use those for the category of the bathroom or jacuzzi or whatever you want to call then those with bdsm scenes can be added to the dungeon section And for the gym section, just as rare is a pornstar who does not have a scene in a gym the most difficult thing would be to find fight scenes for the bouncer tab
but let's remember that we are in 2021 (soon 2022) if a pornstar does not have a specific scene, you can always do a deepfake with her and complete said group of scenes so with work and patience between all you can do everything for all packs I think In fact, for those of the bouncers you could take advantage of all the current parody material of avengers superheroes GOT ...
and ai I think you can take scenes from the odd pornstar throwing kicks and punches and winning or the other way around being defeated and having to pay for it with sex
3rd if the idea of random events would be fine (not daily because it can be tedious) add a lesbian session (both in the club and in training sessions) and the idea of having a private area of yours with your own personal girls with a secretary etc. I still think That can give you a lot of play starting with the events, for example, you are in your office and a random girl appears wanting to have sex because you haven't trained for her in a long time or something happens and you have to call someone at the office to punish her in the office / The protagonist's rooms can happen anything
And since we are taking advantage of how the group scenes (trios orgy whatever) are unlocked in the TUSC? no matter how much I maximize a girl, I don't get group scenes
2nd on the specific categories you can always be more permissive, for example practically all the pornstars have made a scene in a boat or beach pool because you can use those for the category of the bathroom or jacuzzi or whatever you want to call then those with bdsm scenes can be added to the dungeon section And for the gym section, just as rare is a pornstar who does not have a scene in a gym the most difficult thing would be to find fight scenes for the bouncer tab
but let's remember that we are in 2021 (soon 2022) if a pornstar does not have a specific scene, you can always do a deepfake with her and complete said group of scenes so with work and patience between all you can do everything for all packs I think In fact, for those of the bouncers you could take advantage of all the current parody material of avengers superheroes GOT ...
and ai I think you can take scenes from the odd pornstar throwing kicks and punches and winning or the other way around being defeated and having to pay for it with sex
3rd if the idea of random events would be fine (not daily because it can be tedious) add a lesbian session (both in the club and in training sessions) and the idea of having a private area of yours with your own personal girls with a secretary etc. I still think That can give you a lot of play starting with the events, for example, you are in your office and a random girl appears wanting to have sex because you haven't trained for her in a long time or something happens and you have to call someone at the office to punish her in the office / The protagonist's rooms can happen anything
And since we are taking advantage of how the group scenes (trios orgy whatever) are unlocked in the TUSC? no matter how much I maximize a girl, I don't get group scenes
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Now that the site will actually let me reply, here we go. This is my opinion.
I would exhaust every new feature possible before adding to the girlpacks. Girlpacks already take a lot of time to create and I agree with some of the replies that many of the new categories you suggest are too difficult to find content for.
Because most of the new categories you suggest are very specific, most porn stars will only have one maybe two videos for the new categories. This is a problem as it would get boring and repetitive really quick! You want categories to be filled with plenty of videos and that is what the current girlpack format was designed to accomplish.
I think you will have an uphill battle with convincing creators to update their packs with the new TUSC categories. There are tons of features you could add without going this route.
The current airtable could possibly be updated with a TUSC compatible/enhanced field or just start your own airtable.
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I started to post this in the thread for TUSC, but I decided that since it is a heavily girlpack-oriented topic that it is probably more relevant here.
I am absolutely NOT a coder or programmer, but I can't help but wonder this: How hard would it be to make TUSC customizable by players? What I mean is that the game could be set up with default categories just like Venus Club, and existing girlpacks would work fine, BUT it would also have the option to add additional categories in the interface or replace existing ones. New categories could be placed in the "tier" (dance, pose, foreplay, oral, sex, group, etc.) of the player's choice and they could be assigned custom openness requirements and point-growth ranges.
For example, if a player wished they could rename the "Footjob" foreplay category as "Spanking," "Bondage," or something else and tweak it's openness requirements and point-growth range. OR, they could add a completely new category to one of the tiers - add a "Girl on Girl Show" category to the "Foreplay" or "Oral" tier (or some other tier of the player's choice). The possibilities here are pretty endless.
I have no idea how difficult this would be to implement (again, not a coder), and it might be completely impractical. If doable, though, it seems like this could be a way to keep using existing material while opening the game up for endless personal customization by players.
This is probably a "pie in the sky" idea, but I thought it was worth bringing up.
I am absolutely NOT a coder or programmer, but I can't help but wonder this: How hard would it be to make TUSC customizable by players? What I mean is that the game could be set up with default categories just like Venus Club, and existing girlpacks would work fine, BUT it would also have the option to add additional categories in the interface or replace existing ones. New categories could be placed in the "tier" (dance, pose, foreplay, oral, sex, group, etc.) of the player's choice and they could be assigned custom openness requirements and point-growth ranges.
For example, if a player wished they could rename the "Footjob" foreplay category as "Spanking," "Bondage," or something else and tweak it's openness requirements and point-growth range. OR, they could add a completely new category to one of the tiers - add a "Girl on Girl Show" category to the "Foreplay" or "Oral" tier (or some other tier of the player's choice). The possibilities here are pretty endless.
I have no idea how difficult this would be to implement (again, not a coder), and it might be completely impractical. If doable, though, it seems like this could be a way to keep using existing material while opening the game up for endless personal customization by players.
This is probably a "pie in the sky" idea, but I thought it was worth bringing up.