Unity Abandoned Glamour (2016) [v0.8 Fix 5] [Dark Silver]

[Paz]

I am not so sure that DS cares about a russian law.
Reason (quote from Discord channel):

Dark Silver - Today at 12:06 AM
I'm native russian
not russian

Could it be that he moved in another country? That was certainly the case back then.
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[Machine Translated, emphasis mine]

The State Duma adopted on Tuesday, June 7, the third and final reading of the draft law on combating the spread of child pornography, the agency TASS reported.

The law is correct, with its goals completely agree. However, the wording turns it into a punitive tool. Here is a fragment of the text of the law:

Under the materials and objects with pornographic images of minors in this article and article 242.2 of this Code are understood materials and objects containing any image or description for sexual purposes:

• completely or partially exposed sexual organs of a minor;
• a minor who commits or imitates sexual intercourse or other acts of a sexual nature;
• sexual intercourse or other acts of a sexual nature committed against or with the minor;
• of an adult person depicting a minor who commits or imitates sexual intercourse or other acts of a sexual nature.

For the dissemination of the above, there is a responsibility for 242.1 article of the Criminal Code - from 3 to 10 years in prison. Under the distribution are understood including downloading with the help of torrents and spreading pictures in the social network.

The first 3 points are absolutely clear and correct, but here's the 4th item allows any photo with an adult actress, but in a school skirt turn into a felony (from 3 to 10 years in prison). And in this case, it is not the experts' opinion that will decide the key role, but the opinion of the investigator.

All this imposes serious restrictions on the development of such projects.
Until I find a reasonable solution that does not violate the law, the development of the project is officially suspended. Please understand.

Also, on the subject of monetizing the project as well as a bit more info on the state at the time. -

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[groq]

Could it be that he moved in another country? That was certainly the case back then.
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[Machine Translated, emphasis mine]

Also, on the subject of monetizing the project as well as a bit more info on the state at the time. -

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Thanks for the links, I'll check deeper.

 

[PinkHead]

"Clean" art without Photoshop etc.
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Day & Night

 

[JasonJemodah]

Inventory

Since Glamour is going to have a lot of items, we're working a good, functional inventory. For example, the game has categories for items like: "all items", "food", "gifts" etc. The categories are temporary and we might change them down the line and add new ones. We'll definitely add "quest items".

Once you select an item, you'll see its description and useful information. If it's a cake, then you'll see how it will affect the main character after eating it. If you give it to someone else, then you'll improve your relationships a little bit.

Some effects will be permanent, some temporary. You'll be able to craft a lot of food items yourself. Crafting interface is almost done and I'll show it to you in the near future.

All NPCs will have their preferences (randomly generated when you start a new game, btw), so you'll have to figure out which characters like what. I'll tell you more about it later, NPC's preferences is an important feature of the game.

 

[KaiserST]

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Our previous poll about choosing your character's gender is more or less finished. Over 2400 people have voted and about 36% want to be able to choose main character's gender. I think it's safe to talk about the results now.
As some of you already know, our new game Glamour is a remake of my first game. I came up with the idea in June 2015, and I've put a lot of thought into the game's story over the years. Adapting some parts for a male protagonist would be very complicated.

Technically, we can add the option to play as any character in the game. Theoretically, we could even add Max's family into the game and you'd be able to play as him, one of his sisters, Ann or Kira. But of course we're not planning to do this in the foreseeable future, and we're definitely not doing it on Patreon.

But Glamour was always envisioned as Kate's story. She's the point of view character who tries to make it in a big city and sometimes gets into sticky situations to get out of. It's an interesting story, and I want to tell it to you, but it wouldn't be possible with a male protagonist without significant changes.

When I started working on Big Brother, I added Eric as the Big Bad the players were supposed to overcome. Of course, that meant I couldn't add an option to get rid of him right at the start in 0.1. So in the very beginning on the game he was temporarily completely unbeatable, which pissed off a lot of players who wrongly assumed I'm into NTR and Eric is going to fuck everything in sight, while Max will be hiding in the closet and jerking off wearing a Superman costume or something. A lot of people got really upset at Eric because they assumed the game will never have an option to get rid of him. I decided to appease the players and made him more tame. Ultimately, I think it hurt the game because he wasn't threatening enough and turned out to be more of an annoyance than a proper antagonist.

I can't make everyone happy, so I'll just try to realize my vision of the game and hope people will like the result. I understand that some people really want to see male protagonist and they might decide to leave. A lot of people already left. But I'm sure when we'll show people how good our game is, a lot of people will return and even more people will want to play our game because it's going to be very special.

Some things aren't set in stone, we're still going to have polls because I care about your opinion. But the main plot of the game is not one of those things.

 

[Ignazzio]

That sounds good. He's aware that BB had serious issues cuz of Eric's removal and it looks like he won't let change his base ideas in this one. I hope he can make it tho whole project seems endlessly more ambitious than BB. I can give him that renders and UI elements look great at this point and whole project might be amazing even if only half of his goal will be introduced. I would gladly wait for 0.3 for a decent material but Patrons aren't so patient I guess

 

[greenymph]

To be honest i'm still quite bummed about the whole BB ordeal with Patreon, but i'm liking what i see so far in Glamour. One thing @DarkSilver should definitly do is get his new game to be easily moddable. I see a lot of potential in that further down the line.

 

[JohnPonn]

The poll with no meaning. . .

I don't even get why DarkSilver botherd on this one at all. The info this poll can give him isn't really worth anything in the end. I made this point clear in a post on the Pateron page as well.

1. FMC
2. FMC
3. FMC, becasue if you add a MMC it will slow the progress down and it's not worth it. (So please don't vote this option)

I understand he had alreay made up his mind on the FMC and just wanted to see the public reactions. But if he wanted the truth it's obvios that the option to vote MMC should have been in the poll. DarkSilver knew it would be a landslide victory for this option so maby he felt it was pointless to add. Thats also why the poll stands to feel pointless. We all knew already given the choice MMC would win. Second place FMC and last place both. Either side realize that this is the least wanted way to develop a monthly uppdate game as the drag out of new content will doubble the workload.

I support DarkSilver to do what he feels is right. Whatever that may be. I think allowing polls (40$ or not) should only be for information and never to change the outcome of the Devs original plan for a game. But this time i'm a bit lost..
A poll where the outcome was obvious and the resault means nothing. ensive:

Anyways i hope things will start looking up as Gamour hits the market (The small hardly known adult market that is)
I will be playing the game and as i enjoyed the gameplay style of BB more then it's sexual content i feel good about Glamour and what we've seen so far. Give me stats to grind and a goal to reach and i can play forever, muhaha

 

[Ignazzio]

He said that FMC will be a thing regardless of people's opinion so MMC was obviously not an option for a poll. It was just to analyze how huge anti FMC group is. He knows that MMC would win in a poll. If 3 option would win I'm sure he would try to do 2 protags in some way. I'm not sure what to think about it as 2 protags is obviously better but with crappy monthly releases we have it will always affects whole project. Decent FMC simulation games are always good. I would love to play Girl Life with renders and improved writing

 

[Botman9000]

is there a walkthough of the original version of this game?

 

[JohnPonn]

He said that FMC will be a thing regardless of people's opinion so MMC was obviously not an option for a poll. It was just to analyze how huge anti FMC group is. He knows that MMC would win in a poll. If 3 option would win I'm sure he would try to do 2 protags in some way. I'm not sure what to think about it as 2 protags is obviously better but with crappy monthly releases we have it will always affects whole project. Decent FMC simulation games are always good. I would love to play Girl Life with renders and improved writing

If he truly wanted to see how huge the anti-FMC group is, the option to vote for MMC only should have been in the poll.
The market is 80% male players who can never project themselves on a Female. So basically the poll resaults is a lie.
It will show 80% of the votes on an option they had no other choice for. Down the line DarkSilver will face the simple truth weather he wants to or not. He will be forced to choose between going for the money, or staying true to his game.
1 of these choices has a MMC, the other a FMC.
If he goes option 3 and tries to have 2 MC it will only end up the same.. Everyone is gonna start pulling for more Male content and less Female. Thats why this option was never viable to start with. And he knows it. He designed the poll around the facts he knew already so i'm pussled as to why he did it at all. It's like voting on jumping in a pool and guessing if you will get wet or not.. Pretty Obvios outcome.

 

[redknight00]

That's fair, there are enough MMC incest games already, at least this one has a female lead and I hope some more varied scenes than BB did.

 

[thekat]

might change his mind if he looses another 800 patrons, and cant pay his staff

 

[Ignazzio]

If he truly wanted to see how huge the anti-FMC group is, the option to vote for MMC only should have been in the poll.
The market is 80% male players who can never project themselves on a Female. So basically the poll resaults is a lie.
It will show 80% of the votes on an option they had no other choice for. Down the line DarkSilver will face the simple truth weather he wants to or not. He will be forced to choose between going for the money, or staying true to his game.
1 of these choices has a MMC, the other a FMC.
If he goes option 3 and tries to have 2 MC it will only end up the same.. Everyone is gonna start pulling for more Male content and less Female. Thats why this option was never viable to start with. And he knows it. He designed the poll around the facts he knew already so i'm pussled as to why he did it at all. It's like voting on jumping in a pool and guessing if you will get wet or not.. Pretty Obvios outcome.

Nyah, doubtful it's 80% seeing how popular FMC games are. I would say like 60% prefer MMC and maybe 20% can't play FMC at all. He thought that 3 will win or be much bigger as those who picked 1,2 can play FMC without problems. Data is always good for approximations. Ofc, this poll isn't meant to give anything except for data so in some sense it is meaningless.

 

[Olivia_V]

I wonder if he would be as brave if the polls had turned out the opposite result... I thought he was finally defying concentrated attempts to get him to abandon his original design, until I saw the result. It's easy to be brave when you get the result you wanted. It also helped DS's case that a large number of the "only male MC's" crowd had seemingly already departed.

That said, I feel that the case for "80% male who can't ever play female MC's" is overstated. The number of male players who would rather stare at shapely dark elf ass for hours instead of the steel backside of a knight is quite high. Plus, the "projection" mode is hardly the only, or even the predominant, mode in which to take in adult content. (Look at how male porn stars are essentially second class citizens.) I'd say the "voyeur" is a far more common adult connoisseur than the "projector".

 

[SirSpectacular]

For the record, I'm a male who doesn't project himself onto a female main character but I absolutely love games with female protagonists. You can steer the character into situations that lead to sexy results. I tend to project myself onto the protagonist's partners instead. I honestly doubt that playing a female main character is that big of a no-no for most people.

 

[JasonJemodah]

For the record, I'm a male who doesn't project himself onto a female main character but I absolutely love games with female protagonists. You can steer the character into situations that lead to sexy results. I tend to project myself onto the protagonist's partners instead. I honestly doubt that playing a female main character is that big of a no-no for most people.

I fully agree with you, but the vocal minority makes it seem like this game will flop big time.

 

[goutch]

For the record, I'm a male who doesn't project himself onto a female main character but I absolutely love games with female protagonists. You can steer the character into situations that lead to sexy results. I tend to project myself onto the protagonist's partners instead. I honestly doubt that playing a female main character is that big of a no-no for most people.

i agree too, in fact, i was working on a story myself, with a FMC, i don't understand why people don't like it.

 

[StonedFish]

Why the fuck does it have to be Russian language? That language is so complicated and not used anywhere else than in Russia only

 

[-DeaDHeaD-]

Why the fuck does it have to be Russian language? That language is so complicated and not used anywhere else than in Russia only

Because the native language of the developer is Russian. Now shut up and GTFO.