Unity Abandoned Glamour (2016) [v0.8 Fix 5] [Dark Silver]

[greenymph]

To be honest i'm still quite bummed about the whole BB ordeal with Patreon, but i'm liking what i see so far in Glamour. One thing @DarkSilver should definitly do is get his new game to be easily moddable. I see a lot of potential in that further down the line.

 

[JohnPonn]

The poll with no meaning. . .

I don't even get why DarkSilver botherd on this one at all. The info this poll can give him isn't really worth anything in the end. I made this point clear in a post on the Pateron page as well.

1. FMC
2. FMC
3. FMC, becasue if you add a MMC it will slow the progress down and it's not worth it. (So please don't vote this option)

I understand he had alreay made up his mind on the FMC and just wanted to see the public reactions. But if he wanted the truth it's obvios that the option to vote MMC should have been in the poll. DarkSilver knew it would be a landslide victory for this option so maby he felt it was pointless to add. Thats also why the poll stands to feel pointless. We all knew already given the choice MMC would win. Second place FMC and last place both. Either side realize that this is the least wanted way to develop a monthly uppdate game as the drag out of new content will doubble the workload.

I support DarkSilver to do what he feels is right. Whatever that may be. I think allowing polls (40$ or not) should only be for information and never to change the outcome of the Devs original plan for a game. But this time i'm a bit lost..
A poll where the outcome was obvious and the resault means nothing. ensive:

Anyways i hope things will start looking up as Gamour hits the market (The small hardly known adult market that is)
I will be playing the game and as i enjoyed the gameplay style of BB more then it's sexual content i feel good about Glamour and what we've seen so far. Give me stats to grind and a goal to reach and i can play forever, muhaha

 

[Ignazzio]

He said that FMC will be a thing regardless of people's opinion so MMC was obviously not an option for a poll. It was just to analyze how huge anti FMC group is. He knows that MMC would win in a poll. If 3 option would win I'm sure he would try to do 2 protags in some way. I'm not sure what to think about it as 2 protags is obviously better but with crappy monthly releases we have it will always affects whole project. Decent FMC simulation games are always good. I would love to play Girl Life with renders and improved writing

 

[Botman9000]

is there a walkthough of the original version of this game?

 

[JohnPonn]

He said that FMC will be a thing regardless of people's opinion so MMC was obviously not an option for a poll. It was just to analyze how huge anti FMC group is. He knows that MMC would win in a poll. If 3 option would win I'm sure he would try to do 2 protags in some way. I'm not sure what to think about it as 2 protags is obviously better but with crappy monthly releases we have it will always affects whole project. Decent FMC simulation games are always good. I would love to play Girl Life with renders and improved writing

If he truly wanted to see how huge the anti-FMC group is, the option to vote for MMC only should have been in the poll.
The market is 80% male players who can never project themselves on a Female. So basically the poll resaults is a lie.
It will show 80% of the votes on an option they had no other choice for. Down the line DarkSilver will face the simple truth weather he wants to or not. He will be forced to choose between going for the money, or staying true to his game.
1 of these choices has a MMC, the other a FMC.
If he goes option 3 and tries to have 2 MC it will only end up the same.. Everyone is gonna start pulling for more Male content and less Female. Thats why this option was never viable to start with. And he knows it. He designed the poll around the facts he knew already so i'm pussled as to why he did it at all. It's like voting on jumping in a pool and guessing if you will get wet or not.. Pretty Obvios outcome.

 

[redknight00]

That's fair, there are enough MMC incest games already, at least this one has a female lead and I hope some more varied scenes than BB did.

 

[thekat]

might change his mind if he looses another 800 patrons, and cant pay his staff

 

[Ignazzio]

If he truly wanted to see how huge the anti-FMC group is, the option to vote for MMC only should have been in the poll.
The market is 80% male players who can never project themselves on a Female. So basically the poll resaults is a lie.
It will show 80% of the votes on an option they had no other choice for. Down the line DarkSilver will face the simple truth weather he wants to or not. He will be forced to choose between going for the money, or staying true to his game.
1 of these choices has a MMC, the other a FMC.
If he goes option 3 and tries to have 2 MC it will only end up the same.. Everyone is gonna start pulling for more Male content and less Female. Thats why this option was never viable to start with. And he knows it. He designed the poll around the facts he knew already so i'm pussled as to why he did it at all. It's like voting on jumping in a pool and guessing if you will get wet or not.. Pretty Obvios outcome.

Nyah, doubtful it's 80% seeing how popular FMC games are. I would say like 60% prefer MMC and maybe 20% can't play FMC at all. He thought that 3 will win or be much bigger as those who picked 1,2 can play FMC without problems. Data is always good for approximations. Ofc, this poll isn't meant to give anything except for data so in some sense it is meaningless.

 

[Olivia_V]

I wonder if he would be as brave if the polls had turned out the opposite result... I thought he was finally defying concentrated attempts to get him to abandon his original design, until I saw the result. It's easy to be brave when you get the result you wanted. It also helped DS's case that a large number of the "only male MC's" crowd had seemingly already departed.

That said, I feel that the case for "80% male who can't ever play female MC's" is overstated. The number of male players who would rather stare at shapely dark elf ass for hours instead of the steel backside of a knight is quite high. Plus, the "projection" mode is hardly the only, or even the predominant, mode in which to take in adult content. (Look at how male porn stars are essentially second class citizens.) I'd say the "voyeur" is a far more common adult connoisseur than the "projector".

 

[SirSpectacular]

For the record, I'm a male who doesn't project himself onto a female main character but I absolutely love games with female protagonists. You can steer the character into situations that lead to sexy results. I tend to project myself onto the protagonist's partners instead. I honestly doubt that playing a female main character is that big of a no-no for most people.

 

[JasonJemodah]

For the record, I'm a male who doesn't project himself onto a female main character but I absolutely love games with female protagonists. You can steer the character into situations that lead to sexy results. I tend to project myself onto the protagonist's partners instead. I honestly doubt that playing a female main character is that big of a no-no for most people.

I fully agree with you, but the vocal minority makes it seem like this game will flop big time.

 

[goutch]

For the record, I'm a male who doesn't project himself onto a female main character but I absolutely love games with female protagonists. You can steer the character into situations that lead to sexy results. I tend to project myself onto the protagonist's partners instead. I honestly doubt that playing a female main character is that big of a no-no for most people.

i agree too, in fact, i was working on a story myself, with a FMC, i don't understand why people don't like it.

 

[StonedFish]

Why the fuck does it have to be Russian language? That language is so complicated and not used anywhere else than in Russia only

 

[-DeaDHeaD-]

Why the fuck does it have to be Russian language? That language is so complicated and not used anywhere else than in Russia only

Because the native language of the developer is Russian. Now shut up and GTFO.

 

[StonedFish]

Because the native language of the developer is Russian. Now shut up and GTFO.

I meant if he wants to get some more profit out of his games then he should've used a language that whole world knows and uses. This is just bad marketing decision that will freeze his development forever

 

[-DeaDHeaD-]

I meant if he wants to get some more profit out of his games then he should've used a language that whole world knows and uses. This is just bad marketing decision that will freeze his development forever

The first Glamor's versions were just a test site intended only for the Russian community. Not for this thread, forum, etc. But now, after the development of "Big Brother", the developer making a remastered version with a minimum of two languages - Russian and English. Are you happy now? Read the thread and don't be silly.

 

[KaiserST]

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As you probably remember, Big Brother had tiers of clothing. Kira moved into the house and everyone changed their clothes, which led to massive amount of work because we had to re-render a whole bunch of images. There were even a couple of events that stopped working because we didn't make new images with new clothes. Adding a third tier turned out to be even more complicated and we had to compromise, replacing limited amount of images in some events. Also, some players were asking us why NPCs didn't wear new clothes when Max gifts it to them. Adding dozens of variations of every image just to see new clothes would take insane amount of time, which isn't even the worst of it, because some images had two and more characters together, which multiplied the amount of images to remake even further.
Which is why Glamour is going to have layered images. Background is going to be its own layer, same with each character, clothing, items, etc. Of course, Rendering and editing sprites is a lot more complicated than just one image, but layers will make the game a lot more flexible, and that makes it all worth it.

This also works with items. When you buy a coffee-maker or a TV, you're going to see it in the Kate's house without us having to remake a whole room.

I'm quite excited for this system,because seeing one of the biggest flaws of BB being fixed makes me want to play this game even more.

 

[greenymph]

That's awesome, and something that was blatantly lacking in BB. I'm very happy he found a solution.

 

[JasonJemodah]

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As you probably remember, Big Brother had tiers of clothing. Kira moved into the house and everyone changed their clothes, which led to massive amount of work because we had to re-render a whole bunch of images. There were even a couple of events that stopped working because we didn't make new images with new clothes. Adding a third tier turned out to be even more complicated and we had to compromise, replacing limited amount of images in some events. Also, some players were asking us why NPCs didn't wear new clothes when Max gifts it to them. Adding dozens of variations of every image just to see new clothes would take insane amount of time, which isn't even the worst of it, because some images had two and more characters together, which multiplied the amount of images to remake even further.
Which is why Glamour is going to have layered images. Background is going to be its own layer, same with each character, clothing, items, etc. Of course, Rendering and editing sprites is a lot more complicated than just one image, but layers will make the game a lot more flexible, and that makes it all worth it.

This also works with items. When you buy a coffee-maker or a TV, you're going to see it in the Kate's house without us having to remake a whole room.

Looks great! Outfits at the bottom look great aswell

 

[JohnPonn]

Why the fuck does it have to be Russian language? That language is so complicated and not used anywhere else than in Russia only

Maby because you testing the old Glamour and the new hasn't yet to be released. Trust me tho.. the new Glamour will have English option so you'll be fine. And a wink wink to @TCMS About fixing a new thread, hehe These are the problems we face when the 2 games are mixed up in same thread