I've been playing this one for quite a while and supporting on Patreon. My issue is that with the sandbox format you get into some really annoying non-linear storyline problems. For example in the latest bedroom scenes with Ann when Max pleads with her to "Help him", because she is bitching once again about his erections, she offers up silly moral handwringing arguments about she can't because it's not right and it will not end well, yet she has been giving him hummers in front of Lisa many times over (and swallowing too). I get slow burn but it's beyond tired and old and getting boring especially when there are only two Olivia sleepover events a game week and the rest of the time you have to deal with 8-30 second lag between scene changes or time advance. I knew from way back that DS was going to use this vehicle to further the BB story, but I'm losing interest because of the grind, lag, and story inconsistencies. Finally, at the rate the story is developing Sophia from "A Wife And a Mother" will get laid before Max will get to shag his aunt Kira or Alice.