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Sharks are Evil

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can someone post a couple of saves so I can fucking enjoy this tilting game?

1. even with cheats the NTR part of the game is so strong the black dude still steals the girls faster than I can advance their story with the MC.

2. why the fuck does the MC have a micro penis? what was the point? no guy playing the game can connect and enjoy this on any level... even shota content has young boys have big dicks.

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Ragingrager

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can someone post a couple of saves so I can fucking enjoy this tilting game?

1. even with cheats the NTR part of the game is so strong the black dude still steals the girls faster than I can advance their story with the MC.

2. why the fuck does the MC have a micro penis? what was the point? no guy playing the game can connect and enjoy this on any level... even shota content has young boys have big dicks.

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Also yeah after double checking the scenes it's actually that meme level bad. There is actually no reason for anyone to play the vanilla route if the creator is going to give the mc an actual baby dick. NTR players aren't going to play it because its vanilla, vanilla people aren't going to play it because no one wants to play a route that mocks you and gives you a micro dick. It can't even be called a "vanilla" route(small dick humiliation isn't vanilla and is a fetish in itself) at that point it's still a bad end that is basically mocking the player character. Dev needs to include a way like I mentioned in my previous post to correct that or just go full ntr and stop wasting his time on a route that pleases no one.
 
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GuiltyIncest

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Also yeah after double checking the scenes it's actually that meme level bad. There is actually no reason for anyone to play the vanilla route if the creator is going to give the mc an actual baby dick. NTR players aren't going to play it because its vanilla, vanilla people aren't going to play it because no one wants to play a route that mocks you and gives you a micro dick. It can't even be called a "vanilla" route(small dick humiliation isn't vanilla and is a fetish in itself) at that point it's still a bad end that is basically mocking the player character. Dev needs to include a way like I mentioned in my previous post to correct that or just go full ntr and stop wasting his time on a route that pleases no one.
The game has a easier vanilla route planned which is the non-cursed route where you don't take the ring at the beginning. Though the current vanilla route is important for the NTR development as the protagonist's humiliation builds up the NTR. Also the dialogue between the MC and the heroine's is important for showing the disconnection that they currently feel talking to the MC due to the curse. Lastly, NTR is more spicy when its avoidable and isn't personally selected.

Side note the MC will all but certainly obtain his normal sized penis and personality after the curse is broken at the end of the cursed route vanilla end. So a vanilla end is most definitely possible even with the curse.
 
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The game has a vanilla route planned which is the non-cursed route where you don't take the ring at the beginning. Though the current vanilla route is important for the NTR development as the protagonist's humiliation builds up the NTR. Also the dialogue between the MC and the heroine's is important for showing the disconnection that they currently feel talking to the MC due to the curse. Lastly, NTR is more spicy when its avoidable and isn't personally selected.
Nah you can basically add all of that without a vanilla route by having a prologue where it builds up relationships and then things start shitting the bed. Thats generally what always happens. Besides there is no vanilla route currently, the fact its small dick humiliation from day one makes it not vanilla and you can just still have it not personally selected by keeping the general game-play. It just goes no where unless he loses eventually. Everything you're stating here can basically be done without the fake vanilla route that currently exists. The issue I'm having here is that this current avoiding NTR route is being protrayed as something for people that don't want NTR. When its very nature of lel baby cock, ruins that completely. What currently exists is something that baits people into thinking there is a real actual proper route for vanilla content, and that just isn't true. If the dev actually wants to cater to both sides, that's a tough road and making the avoiding ntr route a joke like this isn't how you do it.

Side note the MC will all but certainly obtain his normal sized penis and personality after the curse is broken at the end of the cursed route vanilla end. So a vanilla end is most definitely possible even with the curse.
Except that doesn't fix the core problem at all. Where the "vanilla" routes content is all small dick humiliation even if the player character is winning on the avoiding the ntr route. There is no incentive. Oh wow I get a scene where his small penis can't do anything fantastic! Surely this is what people avoiding that ntr want right? I don't think so. If its the ring that doing this, then just add in that as the player fights against the curse and wins against john, dick gets bigger, maybe the curse starts switching to john and his dick gets smaller and smaller as the player character cock gets bigger and bigger the better he does. John gets defeated, Kazuma gets a big dick and a new harem. Player gets scenes where the girls actually enjoy sex and aren't ruined by a mircopenis. Actual incentive to play through this content and try to win.
 
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Nah you can basically add all of that without a vanilla route by having a prologue where it builds up relationships and then things start shitting the bed. Thats generally what always happens. Besides there is no vanilla route currently, the fact its small dick humiliation from day one makes it not vanilla and you can just still have it not personally selected by keeping the general game-play. It just goes no where unless he loses eventually. Everything you're stating here can basically be done without the fake vanilla route that currently exists. The issue I'm having here is that this current avoiding NTR route is being protrayed as something for people that don't want NTR. When its very nature of lel baby cock, ruins that completely. What currently exists is something that baits people into thinking there is a real actual proper route for vanilla content, and that just isn't true. If the dev actually wants to cater to both sides, that's a tough road and making the avoiding ntr route a joke like this isn't how you do it.

Except that doesn't fix the core problem at all. Where the "vanilla" routes content is all small dick humiliation even if the player character is winning on the avoiding the ntr route. There is no incentive. Oh wow I get a scene where his small penis can't do anything fantastic! Surely this is what people avoiding that ntr want right? I don't think so. If its the ring that doing this, then just add in that as the player fights against the curse and wins against john, dick gets bigger, maybe the curse starts switching to john and his dick gets smaller and smaller as the player character cock gets bigger and bigger the better he does.
As it is currently planned you will be able to play a non-cursed vanilla route and a cursed route with a NTR end and vanilla end. If you find the idea of having an NTR situation going with an MC cursed and a bull trying to steal the harem unplayable then you sadly shouldn't play cursed route. This is because the cursed vanilla route is about overcoming the curse and this will be done through the completion of varies quest in the RPG and in the future various choices. I'm not sure what you're looking for besides that? Do you want to play the game without talking to the heroines at all? So as to simply play the RPG element aiming to undue the curse and once you hit game over Kazuma's back you simply stop playing? As if you don't want him to be cursed then you're going to have to beat the route obtaining the MC's non-micro penis and Kazuma's personality or you're going to have to play the route in which he doesn't get cursed.
 
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As it is currently planned you will be able to play a non-cursed vanilla route and a cursed route with a NTR end and vanilla end. If you find the idea of having an NTR situation going with an MC cursed and a bull trying to steal the harem unplayable then you sadly shouldn't play cursed route. This is because the cursed vanilla route is about overcoming the curse and this will be done through the completion of varies quest in the RPG and in the future various choices. I'm not sure what you're looking for besides that? Do you want to play the game without talking to the heroines at all? So as to simply play the RPG element aiming to undue the curse and once you hit game over Kazuma's back you simply stop playing? As if you don't want him to be cursed then you're going to have to beat the route obtaining the MC's non-micro penis and Kazuma's personality or you're going to have to play the route in which he doesn't get cursed.
As I mentioned before. There is no incentive to play the cursed route and try to win because of Kazuma microdick and as it stands it pretends this is a valid route for people interested that aren't interested in ntr, but all of the content will be ruined because of the mircodick. As I stated above, if thats the way its going to be then don't bother with allowing him to win at all and go full ntr because no one will actually play it and be interested. If he wants to make it a real route and reason to actually try to win, then he should do something about the dick size and content, like as I mentioned. The rivals dick shrinks as Kazuma wins and Kazumas gets bigger, leading to scenes with Kazuma having a massive dick. Avoiding getting cucked and getting content where Kazuma still effectively loses because of his small dick isn't winning. If the player is succeeding, there should be a reward, as it stands. There is no actual reward. This game is running on porn logic, there numerious ways of writing this in. Kazuma is a smart guy, maybe wiz helps him out with altering the curse a bit so the above happens or maybe it's just part of the curse as you defeat it. Kazuma is a crafty guy, with high luck in a world full of magic and he knows a lich.
 
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GuiltyIncest

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As I mentioned before. There is no incentive to play the cursed route and try to win because of Kazuma microdick and as it stands it pretends this is a valid route for people interested that aren't interested in ntr, but all of the content will be ruined because of the mircodick. As I stated above, if thats the way its going to be then don't bother with allowing him to win at all and go full ntr because no one will actually play it and be interested. If he wants to make it a real route and reason to actually try to win, then he should do something about the dick size and content, like as I mentioned. The rivals dick shrinks as Kazuma wins and Kazumas gets bigger, leading to scenes with Kazuma having a massive dick. Avoiding getting cucked and getting content where Kazuma still effectively loses because of his small dick isn't winning. If the player is succeeding, there should be reward, as it stands. There is no actual reward. This game is running on porn logic, there numerious ways of writing this in. Kazuma is a smart guy, maybe wiz helps him out with altering the curse a bit so the above happens or maybe it's just part of the curse as you defeat it. Kazuma is a crafty guy, with high luck in a world full of magic and he knows a lich.
There isn't much point to discuss the cursed route as you have too much opposition to the genres at play it seems. Though fear not for there shall be a non-cursed route in the future which I'm sure you'll enjoy better as it won't delve into genres that that you dislike. But I'd just suggest not giving the cursed route any more thought as its apparent that you won't like anything that plays with NTR and small penis humiliation.
 

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There isn't much point to discuss the cursed route as you have too much opposition to the genres at play it seems. Though fear not for there shall be a non-cursed route in the future which I'm sure you'll enjoy better as it won't delve into genres that that you dislike. But I'd just suggest not giving the cursed route any more thought as its apparent that you won't like anything that plays with NTR and small penis humiliation.
What you don't seem to get because you're focused on NTR is the fact the cursed route is supposed to have an actual avoiding ntr route and rewards for beating the rival. My point is there no actual reward for people interested in avoiding NTR to do so(if there is no reward there is no reason for avoiding it to exist). You can't see that because your fetish is the NTR part. A good end with maybe a single scene, isn't a reward when 90% of the content is before then and the player basically getting crapped on even while winning. What I'm requesting is an actual reward for winning and progression for Kazuma succeeding, like how John will have progression for him winning. Besides this is ultimately up to the dev, I don't know why you want to debate the topic when you're here entirely for the NTR part and don't care about anything else basically. It would be like me requesting changes on the ntr part that I will never play. I don't care what happens there and won't comment, only on the route where its being avoided. I'll be curious what the devs reply to any of this will be. Lastly if the microdick stays unchangable, the dev needs to stop adding to the change log, new vanilla scene with X character. There is nothing vanilla about it, it's still a SPH scene and update his dev notes to explain that even in the avoidable ntr route. Mc is still losing and his content is all SPH.



Also the whole he doesn't pick up the ring thing might as well literally be a different game based on what the dev said. So using that as an excuse to force that content on the player, is nonsense. I honestly don't know why it even exists if its a going to be a different story. Why would it even be in this game? It just seems like a strange choice to me unless its going to somehow be related to what is happening in the cursed route.
 
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BlasKyau

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Don't worry! I will make the pure vanilla version, which doesn't contain NTR content. But with different story.
Ok, when the game has a vanilla route without NTR, I will possibly try the game. Until then I have nothing to do in this thread, so see you later, when that route exists.

As it is currently planned you will be able to play a non-cursed vanilla route and a cursed route with a NTR end and vanilla end. If you find the idea of having an NTR situation going with an MC cursed and a bull trying to steal the harem unplayable then you sadly shouldn't play cursed route. This is because the cursed vanilla route is about overcoming the curse and this will be done through the completion of varies quest in the RPG and in the future various choices. I'm not sure what you're looking for besides that? Do you want to play the game without talking to the heroines at all? So as to simply play the RPG element aiming to undue the curse and once you hit game over Kazuma's back you simply stop playing? As if you don't want him to be cursed then you're going to have to beat the route obtaining the MC's non-micro penis and Kazuma's personality or you're going to have to play the route in which he doesn't get cursed.
As you have described it, that vanilla curse route doesn't interest me at all, even if you can finally get rid of the curse. So I'll keep waiting for the vanilla route without NTR.
 

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I generally enjoy NTR games but NTR games where you are meant to complete against the bull and have the odds stacked against you is pretty annoying.

Also the whole huge black guy having a giant dong where the smaller white guy has a micro penis is one of those NTR tropes I'm not a huge fan of.
 

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I generally enjoy NTR games but NTR games where you are meant to complete against the bull and have the odds stacked against you is pretty annoying.

Also the whole huge black guy having a giant dong where the smaller white guy has a micro penis is one of those NTR tropes I'm not a huge fan of.
Thanks for the damn warning.. I'll not touch this one.
 

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can someone post a couple of saves so I can fucking enjoy this tilting game?

1. even with cheats the NTR part of the game is so strong the black dude still steals the girls faster than I can advance their story with the MC.

2. why the fuck does the MC have a micro penis? what was the point? no guy playing the game can connect and enjoy this on any level... even shota content has young boys have big dicks.

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The Dev's quite clearly stated the current route is NTR focused with their comments and to me the vanilla aspects in that route are more to enhance the NTR element (which I quite like in NTR games, the idea you can try to fight back makes losing feel more involved. Not saying this game's implemented it perfectly but I like the direction), the dev's also said there will be a pure vanilla route in the future, it's not released yet. I really don't understand so many people whining about it, you've not gotten exactly what you want right now? I haven't either as an NTR fan, but I'm looking forward to seeing how it develops
 

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As it is currently planned you will be able to play a non-cursed vanilla route and a cursed route with a NTR end and vanilla end. If you find the idea of having an NTR situation going with an MC cursed and a bull trying to steal the harem unplayable then you sadly shouldn't play cursed route. This is because the cursed vanilla route is about overcoming the curse and this will be done through the completion of varies quest in the RPG and in the future various choices. I'm not sure what you're looking for besides that? Do you want to play the game without talking to the heroines at all? So as to simply play the RPG element aiming to undue the curse and once you hit game over Kazuma's back you simply stop playing? As if you don't want him to be cursed then you're going to have to beat the route obtaining the MC's non-micro penis and Kazuma's personality or you're going to have to play the route in which he doesn't get cursed.
Where is the non cursed vanilla route ???
 
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Dev, I know the game is still in its early stages, but what update are you planning on putting Iris in?
Some information and plot to be used in the game's second half.
I've played the game and wondered for 1 item. What the use of Change POV item? Is it still no effect for now?
It's a WIP item to change the perspective, it will be implemented on future update. Wait, I thought I made it unobtainable...

Thank you for playing the game!
Yeah I don't see the point of a vanilla route if the creator is going to go out of his way to make the mc sexually inferior even if he's winning or in that route. If the mc is currently on the vanilla route and winning. He should be sexually superior, he should only be inferior if he's losing. Let me guess. Kazuma has a much smaller dick or something stupid like that? This is a world with magic. Kazuma can just go buy a bigger dick. So if thats the route its taking, then there should be an option to just correct it.

If that doesn't change, don't bother, just go full ntr and stop pretending its anything else XXXcodedXXX. Someone playing the vanilla route isn't going to like that they can't ahegao the girls or sexually please them as well as the antagonist. It's just spitting in anyone playing that routes face. If you're going to make it HARD to avoid, then the player character should be doing better than the person trying to cuck them(if they're winning). Otherwise what the hell is the inventive? You don't get cucked but your scenes suck and you still look bad? That would be pointless and not satisfying.

This is a world with a system that enchances the body via spending experience gained, maybe after winning mini games, fucking the girls etc. Kazuma can put points into a sexual skill that increases dick size/output, stam and general sexual skill that effects that the route. If the player is doing well and winning enough eventually if the player does screw up and one of the girls gets fucked by john, if they've progressed enough on the vanilla route, a reverse uno situation happens and instead they just see John as completely inferior and can't get off to him. John getting cucked instead with the girl comparing how better Kazuma is etc and any corruption effects not working as well or if the game is nearly over. Maybe they literally do nothing and it's just John getting btfo at that point because they've already been corrupted by Kazuma instead. This would provide incentive to win, progression for the players on the avoiding route and it more or less fits in with the setting.
I guess vanilla route on NTR game is basically a subgenre of NTR itself (It's a type of avoidable NTR game).
Also, this is Kazuma after he received a curse and amnesia, despite the fact that in-lore Kazuma will still not brave enough to do something lewds.
The world of Konosuba is full of magic, I know, but the world of Konosuba still has many more limitations. There's one side story of Konosuba about Kazuma being cursed to have his penis shrink.
He can't do anything about it, even in front of Vanir and Wiz. The only thing he can do is ask Aqua to undo the curse, but she doesn't want that. If you want to know about it, you can read the manga, I guess it's called konosuba everyday life or something.

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I want the character to stay true to the lore while making minor changes here and there while adding porn logic into it.
There's no sph scene currently (only minor comparing), there will be no humiliation until the girl falls, and that will be in the future version.
The story of the game is about the curse, when the curse reaches zero, the size of the penis will be restored, but it's not at the end of the game.

And the reason why I added vanilla route even though there will be a vanilla version without the NTR is because it's just subgenre of the NTR itself, this is already popular among NTR fans, not because I want vanilla fans to enjoy this.

Meanwhile, the vanilla one without NTR version is a scenario where Kazuma didn't get tricked by the ring (The prologue of this is already written in the game since v0.1.0 ), the plot of the game is still involving the ring, but the ring will be purified and affect Kazuma's emotions, causing him to be brave enough to accept, praise, and sacrifice himself for his party. (Because normal Kazuma wouldn't do that.)

Thanks for writing your thoughts!
Any chance of making the game not interracial? Throwing another skin on the character shouldn't be that hard in a 3D game when the rest of the settings are saved.
I'm neither American nor Japanese so at best it just seems weird to me or it becomes a cringy turn-off when there's no cultural connection to whatever issues their local media or post WWII occupation caused.
Makes self-inserting into the rival harder too. :LUL:
Sorry but I can't do that. Honestly, if it's that easy, I will just make the game like that.
But here's your only hope I guess, rival in the first half of the game is a black guy, but when you can avoid the corruption, the second half of the game's rival will change into someone who doesn't have black skin. (But this is in the future version.)
But sadly, he is.....
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game dev, is it possible to make getting scenes vanilla easier? and also make his cock normal?
I get the big black cock guy, i like the ntr you do, but is it really needed to make his penis a micro penis?

edit: also, what does 0.35 ver has new?
 
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