holtlobster

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I really don't get why everyone is getting all twisted and out of line, simply because a Dev is trying to protect his work. Is it a bit shitty to enforce a 30 day policy on new subscribers, maybe. But if it works it works, as far as I can tell the only one's whinging so far are people accustomed to getting their porn games for free. Now I'm just a simple freeloading pirate myself, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. There's thousands of games to play on this site, eventually at some stage there may be an update here, if there is, brilliant, if not oh well doesn't matter.
But man the self-proclaimed entitlement and bitchyness from people on this site is truly unbelievable to comprehend, are you people like this in real life? refuse or come up with some underhanded schemes to get out of paying for food, basics etc or than bitch and moan when you're told to pay for something if you truly want it? Just curious. Perhaps you play the role of pirates in real life and steal as well, who knows?
I honestly see the dev eventually implementing a system similar to TimeLoop Hunter. Each Tier gets a different version of the game, I think there's like 5-6 tiers as well as a public release. All get released on the same day. For the last several years the Public Version has been 6 updates behind the version that the highest tier get and for the most part most fans and patrons accept that without issue. (I think twice in the last 3 years a higher version may have been released and even than the person who released it got chastised by f95).
So here's my question for all the entitled whingers... would that format appease you if Golden Mean went that route? A consistent public version that got released but was behind in release schedule from the varying tiers?
 

Insomnimaniac Games

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I really don't get why everyone is getting all twisted and out of line, simply because a Dev is trying to protect his work. Is it a bit shitty to enforce a 30 day policy on new subscribers, maybe. But if it works it works, as far as I can tell the only one's whinging so far are people accustomed to getting their porn games for free. Now I'm just a simple freeloading pirate myself, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. There's thousands of games to play on this site, eventually at some stage there may be an update here, if there is, brilliant, if not oh well doesn't matter.
But man the self-proclaimed entitlement and bitchyness from people on this site is truly unbelievable to comprehend, are you people like this in real life? refuse or come up with some underhanded schemes to get out of paying for food, basics etc or than bitch and moan when you're told to pay for something if you truly want it? Just curious. Perhaps you play the role of pirates in real life and steal as well, who knows?
I honestly see the dev eventually implementing a system similar to TimeLoop Hunter. Each Tier gets a different version of the game, I think there's like 5-6 tiers as well as a public release. All get released on the same day. For the last several years the Public Version has been 6 updates behind the version that the highest tier get and for the most part most fans and patrons accept that without issue. (I think twice in the last 3 years a higher version may have been released and even than the person who released it got chastised by f95).
So here's my question for all the entitled whingers... would that format appease you if Golden Mean went that route? A consistent public version that got released but was behind in release schedule from the varying tiers?
My big problem is making new subscribers wait 30 days to play a game they just paid for. Any policy that actively harms paying customers is a terrible policy. Even companies as shitty as EA don't pull bullshit like that.
 

Babalui

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Perhaps you play the role of pirates in real life and steal as well, who knows?
So why are you so mean to pirates? Pirates share everything they have (Well, not everything), sharing is good, right?
To say that sharing is the same as stealing is really rude.
This is not a site dealing with the protection of intellectual rights. Right?
This is a site that promotes art (well not really art), and sharing, and directs people to where they can maybe buy a game, comic, or 3d video, or support the artists. (This game reportedly cannot be purchased. You can give a gift to an artist and then the artist gives you a personalized game, a unique piece, that you must not give to anyone. Otherwise, anger and curse will reach you. But first, the moon has to go around the earth once.:illuminati:)
Maybe I have completely misunderstood everything, maybe this is a catalog, a platform for buying games.
Besides, if sharing is problematic, isn't working behind Patreon's back also problematic?
They have their own corporate policies, I really don't understand why some authors and artists work behind their backs by offering "horrible" content on their platform, without their consent and contrary to their rules. Really awful and appalling, someone could equate such parasitic behavior with theft, with banditry equal to piracy. :KEK:
 

HuhRedy

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So for the past few weeks the same discussion has been going on...
Will it ever stop.. like when will you guys move on.
You guys don't like what they do ? Don't interact with this thread, block it, mute it and ignore the dev or wait for it to pop-up in latest updates and end.
The dev doesn't seem to budge and does not care about the publics opinion at the moment and is set on their decision.
So why keep going in a circle of the same arguments over and over again and fighting each other, unless you all are that bored and need each other to talk to. Then Dm each other and do it privately, maybe get to know one another and maybe someone catches some feeling or something, from enemies to lovers.
I just want to get notifications about actual progress updates for the next version.. and not the next update of the fight of what's right or wrong.. please..
 

Ak-19

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So why are you so mean to pirates? Pirates share everything they have (Well, not everything), sharing is good, right?
To say that sharing is the same as stealing is really rude.
This is not a site dealing with the protection of intellectual rights. Right?
This is a site that promotes art (well not really art), and sharing, and directs people to where they can maybe buy a game, comic, or 3d video, or support the artists. (This game reportedly cannot be purchased. You can give a gift to an artist and then the artist gives you a personalized game, a unique piece, that you must not give to anyone. Otherwise, anger and curse will reach you. But first, the moon has to go around the earth once.:illuminati:)
Maybe I have completely misunderstood everything, maybe this is a catalog, a platform for buying games.
Besides, if sharing is problematic, isn't working behind Patreon's back also problematic?
They have their own corporate policies, I really don't understand why some authors and artists work behind their backs by offering "horrible" content on their platform, without their consent and contrary to their rules. Really awful and appalling, someone could equate such parasitic behavior with theft, with banditry equal to piracy. :KEK:
and why do you have to be so mean threatening to report his patreon page when next month there will be a public release? maybe egocentrism?
 
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Babalui

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and why do you have to be so mean threatening to report his patreon page when next month there will be a public release? maybe egocentrism?
I don't like being taught. Especially from those who think that if they tossed a coin they became moral role models. Every coin has two sides, every action has a reaction. And I'm not threatening anyone, the purges on Patreon have started, I neither initiated them nor support them, on the contrary.
Unfortunately, this is a fact, and we live in a world where people don't care, they want everything here and now. I'm writing because I think the game has quality, I believe the author deserves support, but let him leave paranoia in the framework of game creation, he will be much more successful if he develops trust, that's what all successful models show. Trust is better than paranoia in the long run.
 

SonsOfLiberty

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and why do you have to be so mean threatening to report his patreon page when next month there will be a public release? maybe egocentrism?
It will undoubtable be hit, every game that has incest lately that hits the frontpage on F95 has been reported (it has to be more than 50 developers and counting at this point), like I have repeatedly said, better get a Subscribestar account.
 
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