Ren'Py Golden Mean [v0.6] [DrMolly]

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People need to have more self-respect. You’ve got to be a real loser to pay for a "game" that's nowhere near finished, and whose last update came out in 2024. Can you imagine if GTA 6 was released in pieces? Like 5 hours in 2026, then another 5 in 2027? It’d be absolute madness, right? That would be the end of Rockstar, and no one would accept that as a legit product.

So why are you all such losers for accepting this in other games? Let me remind you, many of these are legally on Steam as "real" games. So why are people paying monthly on Patreon for nothing? And on top of that, they give these games great reviews. My mind just explodes trying to understand some of these "people." They have to be NPCs or internet bots, because I’ve never met anyone this pathetic face to face.
 
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Malvavisco said:
People need to have more self-respect. You’ve got to be a real loser to pay for a "game" that's nowhere near finished, and whose last update came out in 2024. Can you imagine if GTA 6 was released in pieces? Like 5 hours in 2026, then another 5 in 2027? It’d be absolute madness, right? That would be the end of Rockstar, and no one would accept that as a legit product.

So why are you all such losers for accepting this in other games? Let me remind you, many of these are legally on Steam as "real" games. So why are people paying monthly on Patreon for nothing? And on top of that, they give these games great reviews. My mind just explodes trying to understand some of these "people." They have to be NPCs or internet bots, because I’ve never met anyone this pathetic face to face.
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That's a pretty weird logic, mate.

1 - People support the creator because they understand that they need additional funding to actually work on the project. It's a fairly high-end product for its genre and he's a lone developer who's probably working another job. So one reason to support is fairly altruistic.

2 - You get additional perks and minor content. Yeah, sure it can be pirated, but in a well functioning fandom you still get your kicks. Look at PinkCake and others like him. Molly is still getting the hang of it but he's on the right path.

3 - This one isn't on Steam or other platforms just yet.

4 - It's a different market and business model, it doesn't work in a form of whatever numbered AAAA games that are released by big corpos. A more similar comparison would be indie devs, but even those have teams in most cases and everyone also gathers money from various donations and such.

5 - People have the right to support and pay for the services they deem enjoyable, especially if it doesn't cost much to them. Whether it's a couple bucks or a whole 50. Unless it hurts someone they're free to do what they want.

6 - Quit being a dick :)
 
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That's a pretty weird logic, mate.

1 - People support the creator because they understand that they need additional funding to actually work on the project. It's a fairly high-end product for its genre and he's a lone developer who's probably working another job. So one reason to support is fairly altruistic.

2 - You get additional perks and minor content. Yeah, sure it can be pirated, but in a well functioning fandom you still get your kicks. Look at PinkCake and others like him. Molly is still getting the hang of it but he's on the right path.

3 - This one isn't on Steam or other platforms just yet.

4 - People have the right to support and pay for the services they deem enjoyable, especially if it doesn't cost much to them. Whether it's a couple bucks or a whole 50. Unless it hurts someone they're free to do what they want.

5 - Quit being a dick :)
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You need to defend that position just to avoid falling into the pit, and I get it—but you’re not convincing me at all, nor society. Let me repeat the example. GTA doesn’t work for you? How about Undertale, Stardew Valley, Celeste—a long list of actual GAMES made by one person that don’t laugh in your face, spit on you, or mock you for funding their whims.

It’s been almost a year. And honestly, outside of the 4 people like you trapped in a defense mechanism built after months and months of being continuously scammed, if this ever hit the mainstream, it would be a massive scandal—a complete disrespect to the industry. No one would be defending it. You just don’t want to see it because it protects you. And again, I understand that. But I’m not commenting for people who are already lost—I’m talking to the newcomers. Please, don’t let this slide.

It’s total disrespect for a developer to charge people for months for a product that’s never going to be finished. Every update is worse than the last, and it’s obvious the only real effort went into the beginning of the game, just to hook in victims. There’s no craftsmanship, no respect for consumers, no clear feedback or communication—and to make it worse, they try to milk you further by releasing updates once a year, and not even for the main characters. The last one was for a side character, for crying out loud.

It’s just ridiculous to even think this could be considered a worthy product in the game industry. I don’t care if it’s erotic, horror, arcade—it doesn’t matter. This is a scam product made to exploit people like you. And I’m telling you, you are a very, very small group, because outside of F95, this would NEVER fly on any platform. If Sony pulled something like this, people would be sending death threats on Twitter (which, to be clear, is absolutely wrong—but it gives you an idea of how insane your defense sounds).

And everyone knows the most likely outcome: it’ll be abandoned before it’s even close to finished—probably before there's even a single scene worth anything. And yet, here you are, defending it. Honestly, it’s study-worthy that people like you exist. Incredible.

edit: Funny how you associate speaking the truth with being an asshole. Being an asshole would be messaging you privately just to mock you. Trying to protect others and change things by speaking hard truths in a general way doesn’t make anyone an asshole—just because you feel called out or don’t like what you’re hearing. That’s not how progress happens, sorry.
 
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Malvavisco said:
You need to defend that position just to avoid falling into the pit, and I get it—but you’re not convincing me at all, nor society. Let me repeat the example. GTA doesn’t work for you? How about Undertale, Stardew Valley, Celeste—a long list of actual GAMES made by one person that don’t laugh in your face, spit on you, or mock you for funding their whims.

It’s been almost a year. And honestly, outside of the 4 people like you trapped in a defense mechanism built after months and months of being continuously scammed, if this ever hit the mainstream, it would be a massive scandal—a complete disrespect to the industry. No one would be defending it. You just don’t want to see it because it protects you. And again, I understand that. But I’m not commenting for people who are already lost—I’m talking to the newcomers. Please, don’t let this slide.

It’s total disrespect for a developer to charge people for months for a product that’s never going to be finished. Every update is worse than the last, and it’s obvious the only real effort went into the beginning of the game, just to hook in victims. There’s no craftsmanship, no respect for consumers, no clear feedback or communication—and to make it worse, they try to milk you further by releasing updates once a year, and not even for the main characters. The last one was for a side character, for crying out loud.

It’s just ridiculous to even think this could be considered a worthy product in the game industry. I don’t care if it’s erotic, horror, arcade—it doesn’t matter. This is a scam product made to exploit people like you. And I’m telling you, you are a very, very small group, because outside of F95, this would NEVER fly on any platform. If Sony pulled something like this, people would be sending death threats on Twitter (which, to be clear, is absolutely wrong—but it gives you an idea of how insane your defense sounds).

And everyone knows the most likely outcome: it’ll be abandoned before it’s even close to finished—probably before there's even a single scene worth anything. And yet, here you are, defending it. Honestly, it’s study-worthy that people like you exist. Incredible.
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Brother, shit way worse than this flies on a daily basis. Everywhere, in every field.

Me and you can't complain cause we haven't paid shit. You're going off way too intense. I'm a creator myself by profession and dude making a creative product from ground up is hard as fuck.

Lmao Molly has plenty of things to be criticized over, milking too to some extent but remember: he provides a good enough product for others to invest into despite the drawbacks and they pay WILLINGLY, when there are hundreds of other ways to get their kicks like the lil perverts we are :D

It's not the same as a company churning out another slop of regurgitated content with battlepasses and micros, or indie team devs spending years to make a 2-bit game for the sake of money.

Unfortunately every field has nuance and the reality of making shit like this is the requirement of expensive hardware, time and skills. That's why it takes time.

Molly milks that too, sure. But he has great things to show for it as well. For now at least. He's shit at communicating too and seems too protective of his work, considering the fandom he's in. But we have no right to complain here because you bet your ass we'll get this shit for free, whether it's pirated or released for free.

You're hotheaded buddy and even if it was the right cause, preaching about this on a website like this.. is just..

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Malvavisco said:
People need to have more self-respect. You’ve got to be a real loser to pay for a "game" that's nowhere near finished, and whose last update came out in 2024. Can you imagine if GTA 6 was released in pieces? Like 5 hours in 2026, then another 5 in 2027? It’d be absolute madness, right? That would be the end of Rockstar, and no one would accept that as a legit product.

So why are you all such losers for accepting this in other games? Let me remind you, many of these are legally on Steam as "real" games. So why are people paying monthly on Patreon for nothing? And on top of that, they give these games great reviews. My mind just explodes trying to understand some of these "people." They have to be NPCs or internet bots, because I’ve never met anyone this pathetic face to face.
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I was just trying to lighten the mood and please people by sharing these wallpapers, and then you came bitching about giving money to the dev.

98% of the games in this site are trash!!! using the same assets, same characters, same stories, same animations. For me, this one really stands out from the others. Just look at the level of detail ,this is AAA quality. You mentioned Rockstar? To me, this is Rockstar-level work done by a single person in his free time. Don’t underestimate how much effort it takes to create high-detail characters, make them interact, and animate them properly.

You said that a lot of devs try to trap people into investing and then disappear ,and you’re right. But you also forget that people like you are part of the problem, because you consume a product you didn’t pay for and still complain. I’m sure that even if the game was amazing, you’d never give a dollar to the creator. And then you’d still be bitching because the new update takes too long to come out. That’s why many devs don’t finish their games. They pour in so much time and effort only to see people criticizing !! because it’s porn, because people are used to consuming porn for free on the internet.

So mate, relax, go fap a little, and stop pretending to be a philosopher and giving lessons to people who sometimes give 10–15 dollars a month. It’s not going to ruin or destroy anyone’s life. Instead of wasting money on crappy fast-food meals, it’s nice once in a while to support someone who’s genuinely good at their craft.
 
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I was just trying to lighten the mood and please people by sharing these wallpapers, and then you came bitching about giving money to the dev.

98% of the games in this site are trash!!! using the same assets, same characters, same stories, same animations. For me, this one really stands out from the others. Just look at the level of detail ,this is AAA quality. You mentioned Rockstar? To me, this is Rockstar-level work done by a single person in his free time. Don’t underestimate how much effort it takes to create high-detail characters, make them interact, and animate them properly.

You said that a lot of devs try to trap people into investing and then disappear ,and you’re right. But you also forget that people like you are part of the problem, because you consume a product you didn’t pay for and still complain. I’m sure that even if the game was amazing, you’d never give a dollar to the creator. And then you’d still be bitching because the new update takes too long to come out. That’s why many devs don’t finish their games. They pour in so much time and effort only to see people criticizing !! because it’s porn, because people are used to consuming porn for free on the internet.

So mate, relax, go fap a little, and stop pretending to be a philosopher and giving lessons to people who sometimes give 10–15 dollars a month. It’s not going to ruin or destroy anyone’s life. Instead of wasting money on crappy fast-food meals, it’s nice once in a while to support someone who’s genuinely good at their craft.
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Just ignore him, post-nut clarity hit him hard, seems he hates himself for fapping to a "fake" game
 
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Malvavisco said:
People need to have more self-respect. You’ve got to be a real loser to pay for a "game" that's nowhere near finished, and whose last update came out in 2024. Can you imagine if GTA 6 was released in pieces? Like 5 hours in 2026, then another 5 in 2027? It’d be absolute madness, right? That would be the end of Rockstar, and no one would accept that as a legit product.

So why are you all such losers for accepting this in other games? Let me remind you, many of these are legally on Steam as "real" games. So why are people paying monthly on Patreon for nothing? And on top of that, they give these games great reviews. My mind just explodes trying to understand some of these "people." They have to be NPCs or internet bots, because I’ve never met anyone this pathetic face to face.
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Look man, you’re on a pirate site. 90% of the ppl here haven’t paid a dime to these devs. Idk what you’re so mad about. Be happy that you haven’t paid anything and give less of a shit when others do whatever they want to do
 
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