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- Jan 27, 2017
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if you would use the file script.rpy and not 102689_script.rpy, you wouldn't have an error
to put it straight, you have two script.rpy
one in script.rpa and the one you downloaded
but when both have different names, both will be used and produce the error you encounter
I seem to recall in one of my earlier playthroughs that it was possible to have slut ash and eva with both of them going to Jessica's party at vixxxen, but I'm having trouble replicating this. anybody have any tips?
Sort of weird the idea in this game and sometimes back when I was at college that sex = esploring yourself. Sex is fun and great, but there's nothing philosophical about sex, you don't learn anything by banging some random person you go home from a club with. You learn stuff about yourself by traveling the world and seeing different cultures, dating and making friends with different sorts of people and generally expanding your actual horizons. Sex is just entertainment. It's like trying to learn more about yourself by watching television, good fucking luck.
The game is wankbait for wankers. I don't think it's attempting to really present any one philosophy.
If you act slutty Ash basically says: "I'm experimenting and finding myself" whereas a non-slutty Ash dgaf. The game doesn't really judge you for whatever path you choose to take (although it does allow you to judge others).
Maybe, I just got the feeling that from the MC's thoughts and how other people interact with her constantly that the creator has certain philosophies about sex/relationships that I really don't share, then again maybe I'm reading too much into a porn game. I don't really play many so I'm hardly an expert on the matter. It's just at times it felt a little preachy like "Open relationships are waaaay better than normal relationships" from like 3-4 different characters, I mean I'm in a normal long term relationship and I'm sure as fuck not bored, we spice things up with trying different things sexually together, many of which we find through porn instead of having sex with other people, far less risk of drama and people getting hurt involved. Not to mention I feel there's something to be said for true intimacy once your committed. I dunno, I'm probably just being way overly sensitive, it's a minor complaint at best.
I think you're taking the game a bit too serious man
But it if someone objectively made that claim, I would agree with your opinion.
- Jul 21, 2017
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Eh. Look at it this way. People who indulge in the level of... uh, let's just call it "promiscuity" that you're talking about tend to be of two mindsets about it. Either they're perfectly ok with it - to the point where they realize what it is they're doing, that there's a stigma attached to it, and they just don't care because they're having fun, or they feel some need to "justify" their behavior.
For those who need to justify their actions, if only to themselves, well, you'll find a whole host of excuses, and it's not too farfetched to find someone out there arguing that simple hedonism is really an exercise in self-reflection and blah blah blah. Because it sure sounds a lot more impressive and a lot less childish and wanky if you're "on a journey of self-discovery" than "I banged a couple of dudes because I was bored."
That being said, the idea that you can only come to some kind of major self-revelations through world travel and like, I don't know, climbing Everest while carrying your half-dead sherpa on your back seems a little ridiculous, too. People learn lots of stuff about themselves and under really odd circumstances. Inspiration comes from weird places.
- Feb 17, 2018
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To the above point, heck, people have "discovered" themselves simply contemplating their navel, no world travel needed.
To the previous one, I don't feel any fingerprints on my back while playing the game. I think it's fairly balanced between the choices you can make. You can play it wide open, having something with everyone in the game just about, or you can "tighten the screws" and play it close to the vest.
I do feel there's not a lot of creator love for Eric, though. There is a subtle push to get rid of him. Maybe I'm just anti-Eric in adult games, but I don't mind giving him the ultimate boot (I only keep him around to trigger the Dad scene).
To the previous one, I don't feel any fingerprints on my back while playing the game. I think it's fairly balanced between the choices you can make. You can play it wide open, having something with everyone in the game just about, or you can "tighten the screws" and play it close to the vest.
I do feel there's not a lot of creator love for Eric, though. There is a subtle push to get rid of him. Maybe I'm just anti-Eric in adult games, but I don't mind giving him the ultimate boot (I only keep him around to trigger the Dad scene).
I has being hyperbolic but I do feel like a certain message is being pushed by the game creator on the "meaning of sex/sexuality" so to speak. I don't really care that much but there's a lot of stuff I see to do with "body positivity", "self discovery" and a host of other buzzwords for promiscuous people to make it seem like it's so enlightening. Nothing wrong with being promiscuous (although the lack of ability to use protection used in game triggers me, the pill helps with pregnancy not STI's) but there's nothing "right" about it either, in the sense that choosing to be promiscuous doesn't somehow make you more enlightened than those who are not. And both choices close some doors and open others, and you can always switch in life between being a state of promiscuity or a state of stable relationship or even just very occasional dalliances. I suppose that the character is well enough designed it just sort of disturbs me how she starts to rely on attention and sexual desire for her own self worth, and then passes that off as healthy. At least this happened in my playthrough, her worries about her breast size, her constant worries that she's not as sexy as x girl so she has to y thing to compensate, her trying to seek mens attention and clearly caring about them without knowing if they even give a shit about her, I dunno, it seems like an unhealthy mindset.
And here I am breaking down the psychology a pornographic game character, I have too much free time right now clearly.
I turned down arthur from the very beginning but out of no where in the .15 preview version because i'm doing a good route but i'm able to go to his house out of no where...weird
- Jan 14, 2018
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I guess EvaKiss could include a route where Ash decides she's gone too far and joins a church for spiritual guidance and joins Eric's program so she can travel and help others. Instead of having sex, she could choose between whether to build houses, teach, or work on her relationship with Eric. That way it would be clear EvaKiss isn't pushing sex in a sex game. Or Ash could turn everyone down for sex saying that sex is really about intimacy and that people should be secure about who they are rather than looking for meaning in sex with other people. She should even turn down Eric for sex, saying that they need to wait to know if it's going to work out long term and if they are going to build a life together before they have any fun and find out if they are sexually compatible. If not, how else will they be 50% likely to end in divorce like everyone else?
Seems kind of dumb though, basically everyone who is playing this should know what they're getting. Ash is clearly in an experimental stage of her life where she's trying out a bunch of things, not thinking about long term consequences, and is obviously not matured and settled into who she wants to be yet. She isn't a role model who has life figured out, and I would advise against having students play this game to help them decide what to do with their lives and relationships.
Seems kind of dumb though, basically everyone who is playing this should know what they're getting. Ash is clearly in an experimental stage of her life where she's trying out a bunch of things, not thinking about long term consequences, and is obviously not matured and settled into who she wants to be yet. She isn't a role model who has life figured out, and I would advise against having students play this game to help them decide what to do with their lives and relationships.
- Jan 14, 2018
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Oh my god...
Stop! I can only get so hard!
Ooooohhh... I need a cigarette...
- Aug 26, 2017
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- Jul 21, 2017
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Meh. Just like I was saying earlier, inspiration comes from weird places. Just because she's a "porn character" and it's a "porn game" doesn't mean it can't make you think.
I'm too old to worry about people clutching at their pearls just because something seems "terribly inappropriate." Nobody's getting hurt, so what's the big deal?
And speaking of, I think the prevailing theme of the game is more about choice and the freedom to exercise that choice. Sure, to be fair, part of the reason certain paths have such allure to Ash is because there's an aspect of "teenage rebellion" to it. Not to mention that whole "These are the things society tells me I should do, so I'm going to do the exact opposite because it's 'liberating.'" And yes, a lot of that is just shallow and superficial, but well... she's young. Young people do that. (Or so I've been told.)
- May 26, 2017
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That a porn game generates this much discussion about morality and the meaning of sex and relationships shows how good GGGB actually is. The characters are not just fuckdolls and penises with legs but have personality and motivations. I don't think the dev is pushing any agenda, the characters just try and justify themselves and the way they tackle life and relationships. You have Jack, a complete hedonist, Eric, a pretty conservative guy, Eva, who seems to be a naive girl but with a wild side she's holding back, and Ash can be anything in between. Though I think the dev appreciates and treats with respect the "good outlook" on sex and relationships. Jessica's a bad girl with a dissolute lifestyle, doing drugs, selling her body for money and such, unable to find ture love. But you can "redeem" her and the game shows she has honest feelings for Dave that go beyond her sexual deviancy. And speaking about Dave, there's a "classical" love route to pursue with him. So I think the dev tries to reward all takes on sex and relationships and lets the player decide how they see things.
Obviously it's a porn game... I don't want some sort of "puritan route" I suppose I'd like the ability to be more careful about protection, have more options to sleep with people who are not rather douchey (at least in my opinion). I went through a sexual exploration period myself, but I dunno, I still had standards and was safe about it. I guess I just find that sort of thing is a bit of a turn off to me, and yes I know you can stay loyal to Eric, but considering he's not even there and the game sort of pushes you to feel like it's not worth staying with him (I mean you video call like twice all game, when I had a long distance relationship we did video calls multiple times a week) it seems a pretty weak route. There's also apparently a Dave route? I dunno, only played through once and I didnt see too much other than him drawing me, but I might replay at some point I guess.
Obviously it might seem silly to bring my real world views/biases on sex into my opinion on a piece of pornography, but the point is I was trying to sort of "get in character" and I didn't really feel I could do that because I felt it was either A) Do nothing sexual at all or B) Have unsafe, often violent and generally submissive sex with various questionable characters.
It's still a pretty good game overall, I haven't played many as I said and I wanted to try something different. I've suggested to my girlfriend that she play it to get her perspective and she said she would at some point, but for me it was just a tiny bit off the mark, although the art was great and a few of the characters were interesting.