Unity Completed Goons Raid Her [v1.0.2] [The Architect]

[Chucke1992]

Could you explain that further? What was the problem and which engine would be better for what?
Thanks.

Unity is good for real game mechanics unless you have a robust system to rollback or have mechanisms in place for skiping scenes, dialogues and so on (I saw some games on Godot that had that). The whole game could be easily done in RenPy without losing anything important really. Plus it also forces that useless window with resolutions and graphics (in my case it offered only one and it covered the full screen thus windowed / fullscreen option did not work properly).

It is like RPG Maker games that just create artifical barriers in order to force a player to waste time to create an illusion of content. Baiscally padding. Very annoying.

The game suffers from annoying things like very slooow dialogues, unskippable scenes, slow animations and the need to go from one place to another. The scenes and the whole corruption stuff was amazing though. Really enjoyed it.

 

[sadcat1]

missionary romance scene is still bugged, no virgin check

 

[Puckhog27]

If it was RenPy it might detract from the exploration portion of the game. It was kind of annoying at times, but it's not really that time consuming. One detractor of RenPy games is that they don't hide your content very well. RPAs can easily be extracted. I know a lot of people just want to see the story or even more importantly the nudes/sex scenes, but it's not the end of the world always to have a little exploration. Otherwise it's more like watching a movie. I do enjoy RenPy games though. Then again, I also enjoy RPG maker games. Especially when they have a decent turned based combat system in place.

 

[tarzan999]

If it was RenPy it might detract from the exploration portion of the game. It was kind of annoying at times, but it's not really that time consuming. One detractor of RenPy games is that they don't hide your content very well. RPAs can easily be extracted. I know a lot of people just want to see the story or even more importantly the nudes/sex scenes, but it's not the end of the world always to have a little exploration. Otherwise it's more like watching a movie. I do enjoy RenPy games though. Then again, I also enjoy RPG maker games. Especially when they have a decent turned based combat system in place.

Counter argument: Witch Trainer is one of the best and most successful for it's developer adult games and you basically never leave your office. Thinking that you need combat, exploration or puzzles in your porn games to differentiate them from videos is a ridiculously wrong statement. In fact that can only hurt your product as you are putting in a lot more points in your game where someone can get frustrated and just open a video to finish the night and ignore the game thread.

 

[Puckhog27]

Counter argument: Witch Trainer is one of the best and most successful for it's developer adult games and you basically never leave your office. Thinking that you need combat, exploration or puzzles in your porn games to differentiate them from videos is a ridiculously wrong statement. In fact that can only hurt your product as you are putting in a lot more points in your game where someone can get frustrated and just open a video to finish the night and ignore the game thread.

I love Witch Trainer and Akabur style games, but they're just as grindy if not more so with less options. Everything has it's place. It doesn't need to be just RenPy games.

 

[tarzan999]

I love Witch Trainer and Akabur style games, but they're just as grindy if not more so with less options. Everything has it's place. It doesn't need to be just RenPy games.

Dunno what grind you are talking about. You just call Hermione to your office. Maybe in the original there was some book reading grind, but at least that can be quickly skipped with cheats. In Silver it's fixed completely with cheats.

And I would argue that Renpy is 100% better than unity and especially rpgm and 'others' engines because you have everything you need. Skip button, rollback functionality and save mechanic. That's it. The more you include in your game not related to porn you are just making a worse porn game that will frustrate more people trying to masturbate.

People include a ton of side characters and exploration not because it makes the product better, but because it makes the game longer. And sure maybe you will trick people a few times, but eventually people get tired of the filler. It's the same thing with regular games. Ubisoft relied on filler too much and now they are in bed with China to stay afloat.

 

[Puckhog27]

Dunno what grind you are talking about. You just call Hermione to your office. Maybe in the original there was some book reading grind, but at least that can be quickly skipped with cheats. In Silver it's fixed completely with cheats.

And I would argue that Renpy is 100% better than unity and especially rpgm and 'others' engines because you have everything you need. Skip button, rollback functionality and save mechanic. That's it. The more you include in your game not related to porn you are just making a worse porn game that will frustrate more people trying to masturbate.

People include a ton of side characters and exploration not because it makes the product better, but because it makes the game longer. And sure maybe you will trick people a few times, but eventually people get tired of the filler. It's the same thing with regular games. Ubisoft relied on filler too much and now they are in bed with China to stay afloat.

If you just want to view the images you can just go to the RPA and extract. However, what's the point of the RenPy then?

The corruption style RenPy games are meant to be really grindy by design. There's ways around it, but it's just the way they're built. Most games are built that way and it depends on how you look at it when you're playing that matters. If you think it's a waste of time then it will be. You could argue that looking to get a quick fix of porn pics is also a waste of time. You could argue that anything is a waste of time.

 

[tarzan999]

If you just want to view the images you can just go to the RPA and extract. However, what's the point of the RenPy then?

The corruption style RenPy games are meant to be really grindy by design. There's ways around it, but it's just the way they're built. Most games are built that way and it depends on how you look at it when you're playing that matters. If you think it's a waste of time then it will be. You could argue that looking to get a quick fix of porn pics is also a waste of time. You could argue that anything is a waste of time.

When I say that porn games don't need much more than porn I meant that the progression of the relationship between the characters needs to happen as easily as possible. Not looking through 50 locations on the map and especially not by manually having to walk across 50 different zones. Just give people a few choices on screen. That's 10/10 gameplay for porn games. Everything else is a downgrade. Sure most developers aren't talented enough to release a product without a ton of grind and filler, but if you aren't good enough you shouldn't get paid. Which is what happened to the ton of games that were left abandoned early in their development.

You play these amateurish games with a boner and you are trying to get excited enough to cum. That's it. Immediately after the work is done all you are left with is this indie game that doesn't do anything particularly well so you open an actually well made game like Cyberpunk 2077 or whatever if you are still in the mood for games.

 

[Puckhog27]

When I say that porn games don't need much more than porn I meant that the progression of the relationship between the characters needs to happen as easily as possible. Not looking through 50 locations on the map and especially not by manually having to walk across 50 different zones. Just give people a few choices on screen. That's 10/10 gameplay for porn games. Everything else is a downgrade. Sure most developers aren't talented enough to release a product without a ton of grind and filler, but if you aren't good enough you shouldn't get paid. Which is what happened to the ton of games that were left abandoned early in their development.

Just remember that that is your opinion and perspective. Not a fact. Some people enjoy exploring maps.

 

[tarzan999]

Just remember that that is your opinion and perspective. Not a fact. Some people enjoy exploring maps.

This is the opinion of the developers of most failed games as well. Just saying. You are free to fuck up or not reach your potential, but let's not celebrate it. It lowers standards. How we got from The Lord Of The Rings to The Hobbit to The Rings Of Power can only be explained by society getting dumber and dumber and with less standards and it's a sign that a shakeup is needed.

 

[Puckhog27]

This is the opinion of the developers of most failed games as well. Just saying. You are free to fuck up or not reach your potential, but let's not celebrate it. It lowers standards. How we got from The Lord Of The Rings to The Hobbit to The Rings Of Power can only be explained by society getting dumber and dumber and with less standards and it's a sign that a shakeup is needed.

The only reason that more people may like RenPy games is because they are basically part of the kind of sick fast food entertainment culture of modern times. Many games don't even get finished. They're just a quick cash grab. Games like Goons Raid her are something that the developer put a lot of effort into and it shows by how high a rating it gets and how long it's stayed near the top in ratings. Money isn't everything, but I'm guessing this one did make a fair amount of money despite not being RenPy.

 

[tarzan999]

The only reason that more people may like RenPy games is because they are basically part of the kind of sick fast food entertainment culture of modern times. Many games don't even get finished. They're just a quick cash grab. Games like Goons Raid her are something that the developer put a lot of effort into and it shows by how high a rating it gets and how long it's stayed near the top in ratings. Money isn't everything, but I'm guessing this one did make a fair amount of money despite not being RenPy.

You have it all wrong. Porn doesn't play by the rules of regular entertainment. You are there to masturbate and then leave. And when all of your blood is concentrated in your penis you don't want any bs or distractions.

Porn games with more 'effort' as you call it(filler as I call it) don't benefit the product at all because if you exclude the nudity and sex 99% of people would rather play Fortnite with friends or replay The Witcher 3 or watch a TV show over these amateurish games.

You don't realize how risky and scary it is to be solely living off these games. They can be banned at any moment and you can't put them on your CV so you will have a large hole in your resume when applying for jobs. That's why we are not getting the best of the best to make porn games funded through patreon and subscribestar. We are getting 2/10 games with (hopefully) good porn.

 

[Puckhog27]

You have it all wrong. Porn doesn't play by the rules of regular entertainment. You are there to masturbate and then leave. And when all of your blood is concentrated in your penis you don't want any bs or distractions.

Porn games with more 'effort' as you call it(filler as I call it) don't benefit the product at all because if you exclude the nudity and sex 99% of people would rather play Fortnite with friends or replay The Witcher 3 or watch a TV show over these amateurish games.

You don't realize how risky and scary it is to be solely living off these games. They can be banned at any moment and you can't put them on your CV so you will have a large hole in your resume when applying for jobs. That's why we are not getting the best of the best to make porn games funded through patreon and subscribestar. We are getting 2/10 games with (hopefully) good porn.

Sometimes that's the case for me, but not always. Sometimes I there to play the game and enjoy the parts that are not porn. Some of the best porn games are old ones because they incorporated more of a game into them.

Either way, I'm not wrong. It's just my opinion like you have yours.

 

[tarzan999]

Sometimes that's the case for me, but not always. Sometimes I there to play the game and enjoy the parts that are not porn. Some of the best porn games are old ones because they incorporated more of a game into them.

Either way, I'm not wrong. It's just my opinion like you have yours.

I don't think that we are having a difference in opinion when it comes to how and why some games are different from each other. We have a difference in opinion about standards.

I have high standards and would rather wait until a great game is out to play it and only support that while others keep buying any trash with a decent trailer and when they are no longer children and actually start developing taste they wonder 'damn.. why are so many games shitty nowadays?'. It's a tale as old as time. If you are wondering why modern Hollywood is filled with so much crap it's because people for years paid for tickets to watch Marvel movies because of the gimmick that they are all interconnected, but they didn't realize that the writing was trash until it was too late.

I can only hope that we are in the process of a culture shift that will result in more quality from big companies, but they will do everything in their power to be profitable while releasing trash.

 

[The Architect]

You have it all wrong. Porn doesn't play by the rules of regular entertainment. You are there to masturbate and then leave. And when all of your blood is concentrated in your penis you don't want any bs or distractions.

Porn games with more 'effort' as you call it(filler as I call it) don't benefit the product at all because if you exclude the nudity and sex 99% of people would rather play Fortnite with friends or replay The Witcher 3 or watch a TV show over these amateurish games.

If you're there just to masturbate and leave, then why not simply go watch a porn video?

Porn games are about providing the illusion of (player) agency. Different games, different levels of agency, different tastes.

 

[tarzan999]

If you're there just to masturbate and leave, then why not simply go watch a porn video?

Porn games are about providing the illusion of (player) agency. Different games, different levels of agency, different tastes.

You can have agency with just a menu of options. In fact that's all the agency a person needs when masturbating. Imagine trying to cum then having to navigate the map for a minute or enter a boss fight or whatever. It's just the opposite of what you are there to do. And with your graphical and writing skills you would get a lot more than 200 pages of discussion if you streamline the game a bit. It will leave you with more time to expand on the progression of the relationships as well.

 

[HPZAT]

You can have agency with just a menu of options. In fact that's all the agency a person needs when masturbating. Imagine trying to cum then having to navigate the map for a minute or enter a boss fight or whatever. It's just the opposite of what you are there to do. And with your graphical and writing skills you would get a lot more than 200 pages of discussion if you streamline the game a bit. It will leave you with more time to expand on the progression of the relationships as well.

Some people need a somewhat convincing story/setup to get aroused. For examle defeated heroine getting ravished needs at least some fighting scenes.

 

[tarzan999]

Some people need a somewhat convincing story/setup to get aroused. For examle defeated heroine getting ravished needs at least some fighting scenes.

That sounds like it makes sense on paper, but you can get across the reputation, personality and combat skills of a heroine in a 5 minute intro. You don't need to try to create an elaborate fighting system, populate maps with enemies etc to get that across. And if the premise of the game is 'heroine sent to a shady village gets corrupted' instead of 'heroine has to fight her way out of a shady village' you are making a much more focused porn game in general.

Let's be honest all of us have gone through this experience: you see that a new RPGM game has been uploaded to F95 and the preview images look great, but then you play it and the game keeps throwing so much shit at you from different inventory tabs to skill systems to combat mechanics to locations to explore and when you finally get to the porn it's 3 or 4 short and repetitive scenes per the 20 or so characters that you can have sex with and nothing truly stands out. That's the Ubisoft experience of porn games.

Then you play the one game that throws so much of that shit away focuses on good writing and pacing like Scars Of Summer and at least for a moment you think 'Why can't all of these games be as good?'.

Well it's because most developers think that they need filler and bloat to make their product look more attractive. Or they have 0 writing skills and without making a bloated mess that's there to just check boxes they wouldn't be able to make a game in the first place.

 

[The Architect]

You can have agency with just a menu of options. In fact that's all the agency a person needs when masturbating. Imagine trying to cum then having to navigate the map for a minute or enter a boss fight or whatever. It's just the opposite of what you are there to do. And with your graphical and writing skills you would get a lot more than 200 pages of discussion if you streamline the game a bit. It will leave you with more time to expand on the progression of the relationships as well.

You can also go to pornhub and select a category as a method of agency. If all that matters is nutting after a 3 minute scene, then why even bother playing a game?

I make the kind of games I like to play. Simple as that.

 

[tarzan999]

You can also go to pornhub and select a category as a method of agency. If all that matters is nutting after a 3 minute scene, then why even bother playing a game?

I make the kind of games I like to play. Simple as that.

That's a very ignorant thing to say especially coming from a game developer. You would be making more money if you made porn games that more people want to play BTW. You are free to do whatever you want, but I am also free to poke some holes in your flawed worldview.