Unity Completed Goons Raid Her [v1.0.2] [The Architect]

[Puckhog27]

It all depends on what you want out of the game. A game entails that it's not just a porn book. You may want to enjoy the rest of it as well.

 

[tarzan999]

It all depends on what you want out of the game. A game entails that it's not just a porn book. You may want to enjoy the rest of it as well.

But there is no point to consider porn games to be regular games because 100%(well I guess 99% based on what you are saying) of players are here to masturbate. After they are done they will not play this. Even if this game is better than most other games on F95 gameplay wise it can't compare to the many great and successful games that released on Steam just in the last calendar year. It can't compare to watching a great TV show.

The smart thing from a business POV is to make a more streamlined product because people want to have a smooth experience when jerking off. If the developer needs gameplay to feel creatively fulfilled that's fine, but it will not make him more money for the extra effort.

 

[the_MCB]

Lol, ignorant. You can play whatever you want. This board here is full of simple visual novels. And I hate these.
And the developers can develop what they want. What this developer here delivers is a very rare style of game: more interactive than any other game out there. And that's what I like, that's what makes these games so special and great.

I don't understand the people here. First, developers are constantly accused of ‘milking’ people and swimming in money. And then the really good, transparent developers are accused of not making enough money. In my opinion, 90% of porn game players humanity is not quite right in the head.

So many new users on my ignore list now...

 

[tarzan999]

Lol, ignorant. You can play whatever you want. This board here is full of simple visual novels. And I hate these.
What this developer here delivers is a very rare style of game: more interactive than any other game out there. And that's what I like, that's what makes these games so special and great.

I don't understand the people here. First, developers are constantly accused of ‘milking’ people and swimming in money. And then the really good, transparent developers are accused of not making enough money. In my opinion, 90% of porn game players humanity is not quite right in the head.

So many new users on my ignore list now...

The only ignorant person here is you. Whatever it is that you find 'special' here doesn't result in more money than those VNs you don't like playing.

Again, you are free to like whatever you want, but this forum is not a safe space for you and people like me are free to come here and tell it how it is.

 

[The Architect]

That's a very ignorant thing to say especially coming from a game developer. You would be making more money if you made porn games that more people want to play BTW. You are free to do whatever you want, but I am also free to poke some holes in your flawed worldview.

You criticized shitty Hollywood and Marvel movies some posts ago when all they do is exactly this chase for money and popular trends.

 

[tarzan999]

You criticized shitty Hollywood and Marvel movies some posts ago when all they do is exactly this chase for money and popular trends.

Porn has nothing to do with regular entertainment. I already explained this multiple times.

And dismissing the idea of 'making a game easy to masturbate to' as 'chasing popular trends' is just silly. It's like saying that 'the good guys winning at the end' is just a popular trend and not a fundamental pillar of what makes stories satisfying to consume.

 

[Puckhog27]

Porn has nothing to do with regular entertainment. I already explained this multiple times.

And dismissing the idea of 'making a game easy to masturbate to' as 'chasing popular trends' is just silly. It's like saying that 'the good guys winning at the end' is just a popular trend and not a fundamental pillar of what makes stories satisfying to consume.

I try to reiterate that that is your opinion and you're acting as if it's a definitive. Like everything in life, it's not.

 

[tarzan999]

I try to reiterate that that is your opinion and you're acting as if it's a definitive. Like everything in life, it's not.

It's not as in 'not every single human has the exact same taste', but it is as in 'what most people want to do while masturbating'.

 

[HPZAT]

It's not as in 'not every single human has the exact same taste', but it is as in 'what most people want to do while masturbating'.

Based on what survey? And how did you come into conclusion that niche games never bring enough money to the dev who also loves doing that kind of stuff? (People liking porn games are probably a minority and therefore not comparable to what most people like to do.)

Thinking that everyone/most is/are the same as you with their likings is as bizarrely common premise here as it's obviously faulty.

E.g. the first real porn game I played was hentai classic Virgin Island and to me it's still the best completed one I've played. It's also the one that got me interested in this stuff. (I'm from the generation who got to play the very first popular video games in their childhood.) You would probably hate it.

And there's plenty of people here who think that Selena: One Hour Agent is a real masterpiece even it was abandoned before she lost her virginity.

 

[tarzan999]

Based on what survey? And how did you come into conclusion that niche games never bring enough money to the dev who also loves doing that kind of stuff? (People liking porn games are probably a minority and therefore not comparable to what most people like to do.)

Thinking that everyone/most is/are the same as you with their likings is as bizarrely common premise here as it's obviously faulty.

E.g. the first real porn game I played was hentai classic Virgin Island and to me it's still the best completed one I've played. It's also the one that got me interested in this stuff. (I'm from the generation who got to play the very first popular video games in their childhood.) You would probably hate it.

And there's plenty of people here who think that Selena: One Hour Agent is a real masterpiece even it was abandoned before she lost her virginity.

You thinking that most people wanting to play porn games are not there to masturbate is obviously faulty. I remember playing Virgin Island years ago and yes it is a good game, but that doesn't change the fact that most successful games make masturbating easy. I am not trying to argue against your opinion or taste. I am just stating the obvious. 99% of people playing porn games are there for the porn. After that they will play something much better made by a large team of well funded developers. Or do anything else besides continue to play that indie low budget 2/10 game.

 

[Puckhog27]

I would say that a good example is Sengoku Rance. I'm fine with playing adult games that are only for eye candy, but this is an example of a quality game. It has lots of quality pics of women and sex with story, but the game itself is such a good strategy game that you don't really care to stop and masturbate. There is always a place for adult games that are also games.

 

[tarzan999]

I would say that a good example is Sengoku Rance. I'm fine with playing adult games that are only for eye candy, but this is an example of a quality game. It has lots of quality pics of women and sex with story, but the game itself is such a good strategy game that you don't really care to stop and masturbate. There is always a place for adult games that are also games.

You would make a lot more money by focusing on only 1 of the 2. Either the porn or the rpg elements. The mix is not the best of both worlds, but the worst of both worlds. At least from a business point of view. Not only will normies never touch anything with sex scenes more explicit than what you would find in Cyberpunk 2077, but a ton of h game fans will not have the patience to play something that wastes their alone time on game play shenanigans.

And of course if you make a game with a lot of gameplay you are kinda competing with stuff like Baldur's Gate 3 by default because in the back of everyone's heads they know that they have only a limited amount of free time. At least grownups with jobs aka the people that can financially support h game developers.

 

[manscout]

And of course if you make a game with a lot of gameplay you are kinda competing with stuff like Baldur's Gate 3 by default because in the back of everyone's heads they know that they have only a limited amount of free time.

Yes, when I go to itch.io, or the <20$ price range on steam, or any other platform for small indie games, what I'm actually looking for is the Baldur's Gate 3 killer, that is absolutely what any sane person would expect to find and the only criteria anyone would use to decide if they want to play a game.

 

[tarzan999]

Yes, when I go to itch.io, or the <20$ price range on steam, or any other platform for small indie games, what I'm actually looking for is the Baldur's Gate 3 killer, that is absolutely what any sane person would expect to find and the only criteria anyone would use to decide if they want to play a game.

You are always competing for time when it comes to paying customers. It's just a fact of life. The UFC is competing with young guys deciding to go to the cinema on a PPV weekend.

 

[HPZAT]

You thinking that most people wanting to play porn games are not there to masturbate is obviously faulty.

It must be hard to get some dry straws while living under a bridge.

 

[tarzan999]

It must be hard to get some dry straws while living under a bridge.

It's even harder to succeed in life when you think that people don't play porn game for porn

 

[HPZAT]

Just an example: incest is a huge turn off for me and so much for other people that there's a widely held scientific belief that human beings have a natural aversion towards it (so called Westermarck effect according to one of my greatest countrymen of all times even I don't share this view). And still porn games are full of it.

Why? My explanation is that very many of us search from porn games and visual novels a feeling of reallness/immersion that you don't get as strongly from regular porn or written erotic story.

Plus most people are satisfied, if they get a decent or at least sufficient income from doing what they like.

 

[tarzan999]

Just an example: incest is a huge turn off for me and so much for other people that there's a widely held scientific belief that human beings have a natural aversion towards it (so called Westermarck effect according to one of my greatest countrymen of all times even I don't share this view). And still porn games are full of it.

Why? My explanation is that very many of us search from porn games and visual novels a feeling of reallness/immersion that you don't get as strongly from regular porn or written erotic story.

Plus most people are satisfied, if they get a decent or at least sufficient income from doing what they like.

The genre of porn is irrelevant. You get a boner look for stuff that excite you and then you move on to consume something that's not porn.

I have no inherent problem with the developer being happy with what he is doing or people enjoying porn games with a lot of gameplay, but the moment some of you start talking about how porn games having a lot gameplay is an objectively good thing you open yourself to being attacked with some facts. It's what forums are for.

 

[Joe Steel]

You can have agency with just a menu of options. In fact that's all the agency a person needs when masturbating. Imagine trying to cum then having to navigate the map for a minute or enter a boss fight or whatever. It's just the opposite of what you are there to do. And with your graphical and writing skills you would get a lot more than 200 pages of discussion if you streamline the game a bit. It will leave you with more time to expand on the progression of the relationships as well.

I think that you are confusing porn with adult games. Adult games are games that, done properly, give the player interesting choices and rewards good decision-making with story progress. What makes adult games adult is that they include sexual situations or images. But, unlike the porn with decisions "games" you seem to prefer, they are games first and porn second, if they are done right.

This game is done right.

 

[Joe Steel]

It's not as in 'not every single human has the exact same taste', but it is as in 'what most people want to do while masturbating'.

But you are assuming that all people are like you and just view these as masturbatory tools. I view them as entertainment, so for people like me your argument is utterly absurd and completely misses the point.