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let's not forget Jack has been and is in touch with Haley's mom .... and dad did notice how close they are getting ... remember it was cute when you 2 where little .. not co cute anymore .. has to mean dad is starting to notice things even offer you money move out on your own away from Haley .. and mom's wondering way Haley broke it off with Jack .. then mom offers you money also to move away from Haley ....
 
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This is probably the best incest romance VN game there is. Period. The only minor, slight issues I had with the story were: Jack as the boyfriend. He was nonexistent throughout the novel, and then when Haley officially breaks up with him he becomes Sherlock Holmes that needs to investigate something? The dude could not take a hint that he was in an imaginary relationship where he doesn't see or talk with his girlfriend for a month? I think the more realistic version would be for him to accept the reality, or his role should have been more substantial. But how it played out I see that devs have a destructive role intended for him in a future update. Secondly, the parents bother me. First Haley thinks there is something wrong with their marriage, but apparently they seem to be fine. Dad also seems inconsistent with his views. One moment he says that the kids should cling to their jobs, the next they are walking through the woods and he offers to MC the hometown safety blanket. I also don't like him becoming more aggressive and suspicious, but I understand that they telegraphed what would be happening when they had him find Haley's panties in the MC's room. Mom ended the twisted relationship Haley had with Klaus, but didn't try to help her, protect her, kept a cold attitude towards her own daughter that was practically a child when the teacher raped her. I also don't truly enjoy submissive Haley and her using the word daddy. For some reason it bothers me a lot. All in all, this story is truly masterfully told and I can't wait to see how it ends. I wonder what will be the cannon ending for these devs. But I see a lot of potential tragic, bad ones. I love how they handled MC banging other girls without seeming like a total dick, but it bothered me slightly, first when MC cheated on Sandra with Adriana and then when he got serious feelings for Haley yet just causually bangs Diane. I just couldn't take it and broke all other relationships, with Haley being the only one. I liked Sandra a lot! But I just can't truly envision a three sided polygamous romance between the protagonists. It is either her or Haley, and no cheating on them. I guess if there will be a harem ending, I'd find it nothing more than fan service and not truly a credible conclusion to this story. Naturally, I'm extending my own feelings into the MC and usually in porn games that is rarely what I do, but I can't truly see him with anyone else, or cheating while in a relationship. Love the picture of who I presume is child Haley in the MC's childood room. What else.... Oh I love that Haley can grow pubic hair, but I don't get why it isn't reddish brownish like her hair and skin tone... What else. Oh man, I did not fap while playing this game, I just could not bring myself to do it. It felt wrong for some reason. That is some weird shit, but that is how I felt. Phew, I think I got all that I wanted to say off my chest. Good night folks.
How do you see a good ending (i.e. the MC and Haley living happily together in an incest-relationship) happening, if it is only the MC and Haley and no other girls. Do they just run away, as Haley has suggested, or do they just bite the bullet and accept the public scorn, or do you envisage another scenario. Personally, I am at a loss as to how the developers might handle that (if they actually plan to), and would like to see if you have any ideas.
 

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How do you see a good ending (i.e. the MC and Haley living happily together in an incest-relationship) happening, if it is only the MC and Haley and no other girls. Do they just run away, as Haley has suggested, or do they just bite the bullet and accept the public scorn, or do you envisage another scenario. Personally, I am at a loss as to how the developers might handle that (if they actually plan to), and would like to see if you have any ideas.
Ideally, in the best scenario they'd get those within their close proximity accept their relationship, like mom, dad, Victor, etc, then they could live out their life fairly well, even could have children, they'd just had to keep it a secret who's the actual dad. Also the most obvious solution would be them to leave the country, get some new identities if it's necessary or change the name for at least one of them, and of course keep their familiar ties under wraps. While in Sisterly Lust, incest nation was a huge convenience, the initial idea of moving away and began a new is a good one.
 
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How do you see a good ending (i.e. the MC and Haley living happily together in an incest-relationship) happening, if it is only the MC and Haley and no other girls. Do they just run away, as Haley has suggested, or do they just bite the bullet and accept the public scorn, or do you envisage another scenario. Personally, I am at a loss as to how the developers might handle that (if they actually plan to), and would like to see if you have any ideas.
Same as you, I really don't know. Maybe there won't be a happy ending to this story when Haley and MC are together. I think I can live with that, if the quality opf writing remains the same. I can't see parents ever accepting an incest relationship from their children, mother would blame it all on Haley, maybe try to have her institutionalized. Father would be angry with the MC. I can't see a proper happy ending for these two if they want to keep the people they love in their lives. I honestly don't see even Victor, or Sandra accepting their relationship. Maybe Lisa? Moving to another state or country, may be the only solution. I don't know, we'll see.
 
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How do you see a good ending (i.e. the MC and Haley living happily together in an incest-relationship) happening, if it is only the MC and Haley and no other girls. Do they just run away, as Haley has suggested, or do they just bite the bullet and accept the public scorn, or do you envisage another scenario. Personally, I am at a loss as to how the developers might handle that (if they actually plan to), and would like to see if you have any ideas.
After their dad dies, Chris the MC runs away to an island, because he can't handle any of the 3 beard choices Sandra as a beard or not being with Dana Haley anymore. A few months later she shows up and moves in, and they live happily ever after.
 
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There could be a decent ending where they seperate their surroundings and their family.
They move to a new city noone knows them and act as a couple there, now all they have to do is behave once every couple of months on family gatherings of some sort.
They would lose their jobs, which kind of sucks, and they would lose the ppl. they got to know in the last couple of months, but I don't think theres a deep connection with anybody there.

It could get a bit uncomfortable when their parents ask them whether they are seeing ppl. or wonder why they are still living together 20 years from now, but I believe those kinds of questions can be managed, if they find a good way to keep them away from any new ppl. they've met.

In the end it comes down to whether they would be comfortable with keeping small secrets from everybody around them.
If they're constantly afraid somebody might notice something or they might say something accidentally, or they'll lose control when they're drinking, then this is not a good solution.
 

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There could be a decent ending where they seperate their surroundings and their family.
They move to a new city noone knows them and act as a couple there, now all they have to do is behave once every couple of months on family gatherings of some sort.
They would lose their jobs, which kind of sucks, and they would lose the ppl. they got to know in the last couple of months, but I don't think theres a deep connection with anybody there.

It could get a bit uncomfortable when their parents ask them whether they are seeing ppl. or wonder why they are still living together 20 years from now, but I believe those kinds of questions can be managed, if they find a good way to keep them away from any new ppl. they've met.

In the end it comes down to whether they would be comfortable with keeping small secrets from everybody around them.
If they're constantly afraid somebody might notice something or they might say something accidentally, or they'll lose control when they're drinking, then this is not a good solution.
they should run away have childs make a family live happy for years and make another game with the kids story and put like a sound track "cigarrettes after sex"
 

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Wondering if this game is also included in this, or not.



Tuesday evening I was taken to the hospital due to uncontrollable vomiting.

The day after they let me go, because in the current circumstances I'm more likely to die inside a hospital than outside it. What I had was apparently a mild neurovascular incident . Everything I'm working on is currently om hold. Given that I sleep for 23 h a day. Took me a day just to write this thing. I'm of course pausing my patreon during this time, so you won't be charged.

I hope to keep you posted

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He co-writes this game and I think he doses the renders too, so thats why I posted it here.
 

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Wondering if this game is also included in this, or not.



Tuesday evening I was taken to the hospital due to uncontrollable vomiting.

The day after they let me go, because in the current circumstances I'm more likely to die inside a hospital than outside it. What I had was apparently a mild neurovascular incident . Everything I'm working on is currently om hold. Given that I sleep for 23 h a day. Took me a day just to write this thing. I'm of course pausing my patreon during this time, so you won't be charged.

I hope to keep you posted

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He co-writes this game and I think he doses the renders too, so thats why I posted it here.
When Viit couldn't do the renders for some reason, Ptolemy took it over. Unless now Viit or LB takes over the writing as well until Ptolemy gets better, then both this and Rebirth will be suspended for a while too.
 

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Wondering if this game is also included in this, or not.



Tuesday evening I was taken to the hospital due to uncontrollable vomiting.

The day after they let me go, because in the current circumstances I'm more likely to die inside a hospital than outside it. What I had was apparently a mild neurovascular incident . Everything I'm working on is currently om hold. Given that I sleep for 23 h a day. Took me a day just to write this thing. I'm of course pausing my patreon during this time, so you won't be charged.

I hope to keep you posted

Ptolemy

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He co-writes this game and I think he doses the renders too, so thats why I posted it here.
"Mild" and "Neurovascular" don't really go together in my mind...

Hope he gets better soon.

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I haven't really talked about the content of this story in some time. I've talked a lot about the lack of content. The only story related issue that I have brought up recently is how badly Haley is treated my her parents. Well, at this point I do want to say some things. First, I do want to say that the last two updates have seemed better (at least I think it's last two, apparently I missed an update so I don't know where one ended and the other began.) It seems like MC and Haley are getting some of their old chemistry back. That's the good.

As for the bad, I'm not sure what the point of Haley2 is. MC meets her when he goes to confront Klaus. Why is her name Haley? Did Klaus marry a woman just because she had a daughter named Haley? Would that not imply that Klaus might have some actual feelings for Haley1? Or is he just such a bad guy that he likes to be reminded of what he did to Haley1? In either case would it not have made more sense for him to marry a woman that had a daughter that LOOKED like Haley1? Why did the existence of Haley1 change MC's plan to confront Klaus? Sure he might not want to do it while Haley2 is there, but why not try to catch Klaus alone? Once MC finds out about Haley2, why is there any need for Haley1 to meet her? Is it to save Haley2? How does that work? Is Haley1 supoosed to tell Haley2 or Haley2's mother about what Klaus has done? If so, why drag Haley1 into it, MC could tell them. The only logical reason is if MC is trying to convince Haley1 to go to the police, but that has never been discussed. Is MC trying to get Haley to confront Klaus? I don't know of any type of therapy where a rape survivor starts to deal with her trauma by confronting her rapist at his home. Why do we have to deal with Klaus at all, didn't some of us make arrangements with Victor to have him taken care of (sorry, I ended my sentence with a preposition, but I am too lazy to fix it.)
Why did Haley have sex with Klaus when he said that she would be a slut if she did not? Haley a smart girl (one of the reasons I like her), surely she knew the definition of a slut. How would she be a slut by not having sex? Finally, why wasn't MC furious when he learned Mom knew about Klaus?

As for the conversation about how there is a happy ending for just Haley and MC, I posted about this once before. MC and Haley have no real long term friends. The only family they seem to have is their Mom and Dad (and they are no winners.) MC and Haley could move to a city far away. They have the same last name so they could buy a wedding ring and tell people that they are married. If they care what Mom and Dad think, they could make up imaginary significant others. Mom and Dad don't visit them anyway.

When the project is over, I will pledge that I will support a new project called Haley's Story Chapter 2; as long as it's the great romantic comedy that this used to be. It would already have a built in fan base. It might pull back all those who have left the story. I have a ton of ideas for story lines.
 

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Once MC finds out about Haley2, why is there any need for Haley1 to meet her? Is it to save Haley2? How does that work?
It's because of what Victor said to him. If she she's someone else is going through the same trouble. It will then push her to accept help about what happened to her. That's how it went with his sister.
 
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It's because of what Victor said to him. If she she's someone else is going through the same trouble. It will then push her to accept help about what happened to her. That's how it went with his sister.
She's already seeing a therapist. How do we know that Haley2 is being abused? Klaus may not molest someone in his own family. How do they broach the subject with Haley2? Haley2 you picked up the spare, nice job; and by the way is your stepfather molesting you? Truth is MC and Haley1 would come off as stalkers. Two adults just decide they want to hang out with some high school kid. Why are they going to Klaus' house? Obviously there is a chance that he would see them or that Haley would have to see him. Yes, it would be helpful for Haley to talk to others that went through the same thing that she has. They are called support groups. Trying to find out if the stepdaughter is being molested by the same rapist that molested Haley is just ridiculous. It presupposes that she has and puts Haley1 at risk of coming into contact with the man that raped her. I don't believe that would be good for her recovery.
 

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She's already seeing a therapist. How do we know that Haley2 is being abused? Klaus may not molest someone in his own family. How do they broach the subject with Haley2? Haley2 you picked up the spare, nice job; and by the way is your stepfather molesting you? Truth is MC and Haley1 would come off as stalkers. Two adults just decide they want to hang out with some high school kid. Why are they going to Klaus' house? Obviously there is a chance that he would see them or that Haley would have to see him. Yes, it would be helpful for Haley to talk to others that went through the same thing that she has. They are called support groups. Trying to find out if the stepdaughter is being molested by the same rapist that molested Haley is just ridiculous. It presupposes that she has and puts Haley1 at risk of coming into contact with the man that raped her. I don't believe that would be good for her recovery.
Haley only agrees to meet with the therapist AFTER she is confronted by Haley2, which causes her to realize that Klaus is a fiend. That scene is the turning point in the whole story. It is only after that meeting that Haley realizes (and says) that 'he hurt me'.

I don't find it ridiculous to try and find out if some other teenage girl is in danger, if it is possible to help her either avoid it or get released from it. If we can rule out going to the police, since we don't really have anything that would actually convince them to investigate, and Haley would never forgive the MC if he did that, SOME step should be taken, if one's conscience is to be salved. But, since it's not your kid, I guess it would be alright to just forget about it!

Regardless of how ridiculous you feel about Haley2 following Haley1 in the line of conquest by Klaus, the evidence that we have been presented points positively in that direction. It remains to be seen if it is just Haleys that Klaus is addicted to, or if having the name of Haley is just an added fillip for his lust. It is quite possible that Klaus so enjoyed his time with Haley1, that he would like to relive the encounter. The man is a deviant. It is not so strange that such a person might have such a compulsion. Don't we see enough examples of this type of terrible and aberrant behavior in real life, not to mention in our favorite works of fiction, where coincidences are the norm?
 

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How does her meeting with Haley2 convince her that Klaus is a fiend? There is no mention of Klaus doing anything to Haley2. Yes, it would be helpful for Haley1 to talk to someone who had a similar experience; maybe Victor's sister. To approach Haley2 with no idea that anything at all has been done to her makes no sense. It puts Haley1 at risk of coming in contact with Klaus, obviously that would be to her detriment. You can't justify the bad writing by using the bad writing that followed. If you were trying to convince a rape victim to get help, you would have her talk to another victim or therapist. You would not become amateur detectives trying to determine if a particular person had been raped with whom the original victim could then converse.

No, it's not ridiculous to try to help Haley2. Weeks are going by here, if she is being molested their current actions are doing nothing. MC could have acted alone to warn Haley2's mother. I'm not forgetting about her, I'm saying MC should have acted immediately to stop any molestation that may be going on or may begin. She's not my kid; but if she being harmed, I want it stopped now, not months from now. I guess if she is not your kid, it's okay for her to spend months being molested!

I guess I had not considered that the relationship between H1 and H2 could correlational rather than causal. Perhaps Klaus was molested as a child my his mother who was named Haley.
 
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