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It seems that the dev is still busy working on the game ... from their Patron site quote:










Hey all!
I know I've been quiet for ages. I'm still alive and still working on the game full time. Haven't release any teasers before today because I was working on a big scene at Eli's garage.
Finally done with that so can show something new. As for the update as a whole, it's still a ways off. Still a lot of work to do. There's still 2 big scenes to do after this (50-150 renders/500-1000 lines).
And once that's done there's a big branching path I have to do with two big scenes each including animations. So all in all there's another 6 very big scenes to do. I know this isn't what everyone wanted to hear.... all I can say is this update will be the biggest one yet if that's any consolation.
So yeah... not ETA as of now. As always, anyone who feels that the long development time is unacceptable, please drop your pledge for now and come back when the update finally drops. For those that decide to stay no matter what, I'm super grateful.
Thanks,
Az.
 

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soooo, end of the year update?
two months ago it was at 50% done, which was quite fast considering he has started working on it in late March or so (due to his "bonus projects"), yet after two more months we are still at "a lot of work to do" (around 60-65% done, id say).
 
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Some patreon news and a sweet Em pic from the dev:

Hey folks,

I got a request on Discord to enable the annual membership thingy so I've done so. Annual membership discount is set to 15%. Anyhoo, in lieu of any new ep9 teaser or release date announcement, enjoy Em blowing you a kiss.

Az.
(Note to myself: Better read the posts more carefully... I only saw "enjoy Em blowing you"...)
 

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while he was quiet for ages, or almost 5 months, he still collected 15.000+$ for his "activity"...
i simply can't understand patrons of such devs, but kudos to dev
He's not quiet though. He releases progress updates in the form of new renders every week; he released the bonus episode that contains a story and 150 renders, too. I'm not really a fan of his business model or development speed, but he isn't just sitting on it, and communicates well with with his patrons.
 

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He's not quiet though. He releases progress updates in the form of new renders every week; he released the bonus episode that contains a story and 150 renders, too. I'm not really a fan of his business model or development speed, but he isn't just sitting on it, and communicates well with with his patrons.
i quoted him on being quiet.
all other activities than real game progress are irrelevant and we are comming to 2, max 3 updates per year. such way he can extend completing game in period of 3-5 years.

however this dev is not (big) problem - i've been following him from the beginning. it is business model. i can see pattern (including here). devs start with regular updates and when patrons money starts pouring they are pushing updates further and further and extends life spawn of the game to earn more money. so this (i mean in global) siezed to be patroning and turned to be subscription - monthly recurring billing where you don't know when (or will you at all) get new content. all you get are posts, polls, arts, unverified problems, apologies... imagine any other subscription site (porn, netflix, media...) having this policy. how long subscribers would stay on it?
in the end patron system become beneficial to everyone except patrons.
 

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Don't understand all the discussion here: if it takes you too long, quit your Patron until the next game release. I'll do it that way with another game that also has very long update cycles. Even Az himself has made this suggestion as well. And strangely enough, it's always only those who grumble who don't pledge anyway. And he definitely wasn't "quiet", he's really active on his discord. And it seems his patrons are happy with the way he's doing it. And saying " all other activities than real game progress are irrelevant " is not right: he probably has offered his higher tiers something, because otherwise why should someone pledge more money for nothing in return?
 
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i quoted him on being quiet.
all other activities than real game progress are irrelevant and we are comming to 2, max 3 updates per year. such way he can extend completing game in period of 3-5 years.

however this dev is not (big) problem - i've been following him from the beginning. it is business model. i can see pattern (including here). devs start with regular updates and when patrons money starts pouring they are pushing updates further and further and extends life spawn of the game to earn more money. so this (i mean in global) siezed to be patroning and turned to be subscription - monthly recurring billing where you don't know when (or will you at all) get new content. all you get are posts, polls, arts, unverified problems, apologies... imagine any other subscription site (porn, netflix, media...) having this policy. how long subscribers would stay on it?
in the end patron system become beneficial to everyone except patrons.
The other small projects and bonus renders are very relevant if his patrons are happy with them since they are the people funding this project. Az has been on the slow side as far as game developing goes since the start of this project, even before HH blew up on Patreon. I doubt his MO will change. It's not that uncommon anymore either, it seems like more and more devs are releasing updates only 2 to 4 times per year.
 

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It's not that uncommon anymore either, it seems like more and more devs are releasing updates only 2 to 4 times per year.
exactly my point. and it is just because of money. if patron system just change billing system (what is not going to happen) in recurring after each update, not monthly, i'm sure there will be more frequent updates (not from everyone, but significant part) what might add more patrons and milkers would be history.
 

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exactly my point. and it is just because of money. if patron system just change billing system (what is not going to happen) in recurring after each update, not monthly, i'm sure there will be more frequent updates (not from everyone, but significant part) what might add more patrons and milkers would be history.
This system already exists on Patreon (I even had a dev who used this "payment for each update"). But: there is then also the risk that the updates will be split again into smaller ones - and of course you will be charged for each of them...
 
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