Or 100 (just trying to be optimistic here)... But of course such trivialities are powerless to shake our faith! Next time for sure!
There are a few main issues with this game and two specific problems popping up in this forum. Ill address the latter first.
It has been argued that arguing/bitching/complaining here is useless, because 'everyone knows that no one here supports the game'. Its statistically improbably that the above is inaccurate. True, the majority of people who come here to complain about the game's content [or rather, the startling lack of it] are playing the game for free. However, I am willing to bet a sizable amount that many of these people are either former supporters who are feeling burned by having supported a game that is progressing at a much slower rate than they are used to, or eager to become supporters, if only they had any evidence to support that their support would be rewarded with content they are consistently asking for.
The second fallacy made here is that Caizer isn't aware of the negative feedback; he'd be a complete moron to not at least have someone update him with regards to the venues where the game is discussed. Most game devs do not live in a vacuum - they are fully aware of how their game is being seen outside of the Yes Men that his supporters represent and rubberstamp all of his content. So, while he may not reply to any of the posts here [and considering the heat of some of the comments, he's smart to stay hidden/under a pseudonym].
The third fallacy is the argument that the 1300+ subscribers he has [or had, until he was kicked from the Patreon platform] at $2usd/month means the fellow is earning around $5,200k usd per month, or $62,400/year.
And that's just the first tier. He has tiers ranging up to $40 usd a month. This means he is potentially earning somewhere between $62,400 - $1.25 million per year.
It is true that the lower end of that is about average for a lot of 9-5 jobs out there, but I think its a fair assessment that a lot of the work that Caizer does with the game would maybe take a weekend of posing and rendering [bc the writing is inconsistent and rife with grammatical errors that never get corrected, suggesting that proofreading isn't that high a priority]. Since he ostensibly updates once per month, that means he works at most 20 hours for a monthly check of at least $5,200 per month.
HS is indeed a cash cow, and I wouldn't begrudge him his earnings, if he did the work to earn it. Everything he puts into the game, from the dialog to the clunky mechanics of the game [no rollback, no scene gallery, no 'quest' log to know when all content had been found] suggests that maintenance - and not creating extensive content - is his goal.
It can easily be surmised that - at best - Caizer is growing as bored with this game as he did with his previous, abandoned game [MLS]. I submit that he is likely offering the least amount of effort is being expended to continue providing content to keep the cows fed just enough to keep giving milk. At worst, he is simply milking people because those people let him. Why do more work when there are more than enough people willing to pay for less?
The moment more people start tumbling to this will be the moment that Caizer dumps this game and starts another one - as he did with MLS.
And most of you won't see it coming until your payment clears before the game is simply shuttered.
It has been argued that arguing/bitching/complaining here is useless, because 'everyone knows that no one here supports the game'. Its statistically improbably that the above is inaccurate. True, the majority of people who come here to complain about the game's content [or rather, the startling lack of it] are playing the game for free. However, I am willing to bet a sizable amount that many of these people are either former supporters who are feeling burned by having supported a game that is progressing at a much slower rate than they are used to, or eager to become supporters, if only they had any evidence to support that their support would be rewarded with content they are consistently asking for.
The second fallacy made here is that Caizer isn't aware of the negative feedback; he'd be a complete moron to not at least have someone update him with regards to the venues where the game is discussed. Most game devs do not live in a vacuum - they are fully aware of how their game is being seen outside of the Yes Men that his supporters represent and rubberstamp all of his content. So, while he may not reply to any of the posts here [and considering the heat of some of the comments, he's smart to stay hidden/under a pseudonym].
The third fallacy is the argument that the 1300+ subscribers he has [or had, until he was kicked from the Patreon platform] at $2usd/month means the fellow is earning around $5,200k usd per month, or $62,400/year.
And that's just the first tier. He has tiers ranging up to $40 usd a month. This means he is potentially earning somewhere between $62,400 - $1.25 million per year.
It is true that the lower end of that is about average for a lot of 9-5 jobs out there, but I think its a fair assessment that a lot of the work that Caizer does with the game would maybe take a weekend of posing and rendering [bc the writing is inconsistent and rife with grammatical errors that never get corrected, suggesting that proofreading isn't that high a priority]. Since he ostensibly updates once per month, that means he works at most 20 hours for a monthly check of at least $5,200 per month.
HS is indeed a cash cow, and I wouldn't begrudge him his earnings, if he did the work to earn it. Everything he puts into the game, from the dialog to the clunky mechanics of the game [no rollback, no scene gallery, no 'quest' log to know when all content had been found] suggests that maintenance - and not creating extensive content - is his goal.
It can easily be surmised that - at best - Caizer is growing as bored with this game as he did with his previous, abandoned game [MLS]. I submit that he is likely offering the least amount of effort is being expended to continue providing content to keep the cows fed just enough to keep giving milk. At worst, he is simply milking people because those people let him. Why do more work when there are more than enough people willing to pay for less?
The moment more people start tumbling to this will be the moment that Caizer dumps this game and starts another one - as he did with MLS.
And most of you won't see it coming until your payment clears before the game is simply shuttered.
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It's not in any update a
From the Dev on Discord... Oh, it's a Wallpaper for the game xD It's not what exactly in the game. It's just good shot of what peoples like to see And also I have plans to add it in the future in game.
The BVonkX's reaction to this post is very revealing actually. His laugh matches well with the post's narrative: "Yeah, we milking you! An we know it. What are you gonna do? Cry? Ha! Losers!"
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I always find it amusing to read that some people here can get so worked up over nothing. But make of it what you want.
By now everyone should know what to expect from this game. And whether that is enough to keep following, playing, supporting or whining about it. All these things keep going on and on.
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So, the main thrust of your post was to say that the points that myself and others are ''nothing''. Funny, they seemed pretty much on target to me. And - as others have noted - your constant whinging about how we keep pointing out the obvious isn't meant for you, boyo.I always find it amusing to read that some people here can get so worked up over nothing. But make of it what you want.
By now everyone should know what to expect from this game. And whether that is enough to keep following, playing, supporting or whining about it. All these things keep going on and on.
It's meant for anyone new that comes along and thinks that all of the problems noted in earlier posts haven't been resolved. THE PROBLEMS ARE ONGOING, and I have zero problem pointing this out to new folk; that way, they can make an informed opinion about whether to even bother pirating this nonsense to try it out before subscribing.
In other words, I find it amusing that you bother commenting about the fact that the game's problems never get fixed.
Make of that what you want, son.
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Nice that you replace the part that was my point with "........" and make of it what you want again.
But it's no longer a surprise.
Oh, so "Whether that is enough to keep following, playing, supporting or whining about it." is your point? You know, it adds nothing new to the "Yes we are and we will be" part. It just says "Do whatever you want about it". Or, considering the laughing smile, better wording would be "Suck on it!". That is your point?
Can i say "that's exactly what i said" again?
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That people continue to play and support the game, which is the point of making it available to those who want it. It doesn't have to be for everyone but there is clearly a demand for it despite the negatives.
But above all, keep making of it what you want.
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Man. You'll fuck everyone before you fuck the daughter. Next will be the old lady that owns the cafe at this rate.
Also the scene with the redhead (I already forgot everyone's names) was way, WAY shorter than usual. Like 3 less camera I expected a couple more camera changes with faster animation or something but nah, nut fast die hard. Free porn though. What do you expect?
Also the scene with the redhead (I already forgot everyone's names) was way, WAY shorter than usual. Like 3 less camera I expected a couple more camera changes with faster animation or something but nah, nut fast die hard. Free porn though. What do you expect?
At least the lighting was alright this time, Mika's was almost too dark to even make anything out.
I am the only one who think that without extra "l" the phrase sounds much more sincere?
You may be right about the old lady, but about the daughter?... Way too optimistic.
hey at least , the developer is no complete dead and even if 4 years? 3 years how many they are ?
well the models are still hot on my opinion... the main li on special, there is only another game with good developed models of this type i had cross it, and cross fingers too cause he stopped adding side chars? or next is the coffee lady as somebody has said
if only the developer stopped being a 2-bit bint and updated the main li 30 updates on Rosie please, then fans will be happy, supporters will be happy, he will be happy.
keep coming back to this one because the main li is a hottie... but guess gl on dev
we have a pandemic called side characters - sc2024
well the models are still hot on my opinion... the main li on special, there is only another game with good developed models of this type i had cross it, and cross fingers too cause he stopped adding side chars? or next is the coffee lady as somebody has said
if only the developer stopped being a 2-bit bint and updated the main li 30 updates on Rosie please, then fans will be happy, supporters will be happy, he will be happy.
LMAO yes if only paying more will give a change to his behavior, but he no even hear his supporters, neither his discord since eons too. Already he has lost like bunch of his supporters on last year too... can subscribe for 12 months , will he do 5 rosie updates even? nope...
keep coming back to this one because the main li is a hottie... but guess gl on dev
we have a pandemic called side characters - sc2024
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Who is that ? Is she even in the game ? Name doesn't ring a bell. Can't remember.