Others Hard Stuck [v0.6 EA2 Fix1] [floppystack]

[CaptainBipto]

I understand the concern, on the grounds of immersion one could argue that if the game doesn't Force/Enforce or even Encourage the player into the sex scenes (beyond unlocking cinematics) I don't see the point of being an Erotic roguelike where the first thing that happens when you encounter an enemy is getting attacked by it?
Wouldn't be more immersive if the enemies approach with lewd intentions too? you don't require a rape kink or anything like it, eroticism can get complex, and by default the enemies are aggressive, the novelty of the game is that it's sexual and erotic, having sex can end in game over, the mechanic was there from the beginning, so it's begging the question.

Much like the cumflation (which was also present from the beggining, and not everyone was on board), maybe a toggle option for this enemy behavior in the menu could work.

Since the game has a mechanism to penalize the player for having sex, one could argue that, for immersion, the player is encouraged NOT to engage in sex scenes, since indulging in 'sexy times' can result in a game over. I don't see the point of Forcing a player to engage in sex in a game that punishes the player for engaging in eroticism in an Erotic roguelike game.
Wouldn't it be more immersive if the player could approach enemies with lewd intentions and not be punished for it?


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The main problem I had with your suggest was that it felt like pretty much an instant game over event.

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I just went through 2 loops of the game (on a new game) and encountered exactly ZERO Cun'Thulu shrines and a single Cumpkin. Which means that at the end of the second loop, I had about 98ish cum storage. If I had encountered one of your suggested monsters, I would probably have been 'game overed' a few times.

It all comes back to the RNG in this game. You might have the absolute bestest, of bestest luck and ALWAYS get lots of shrines to boost your storage, but us mere mortals are completely at the mercy of RNGeezus and your suggested monster would likely game over people more than they would be able to beat the dungeon.

 

[BeholdTheWizzard]

As a futa enthusiast I feel like this may be a gross misapplication of the game's overall themes.

The cum meter is there for the cumflation kink, and as a resource management mechanic. To replace it would require a reworking of not only the win/lose mechanics, but also the animations and goal of the game as a whole.

As far as adding female enemies, unless the female units are carrying around cum bottles or have a turkey baster on-hand, this seems unlikely. Implementing futa is a big ask, I think, and seems unlikely from what I've seen in the Patreon comments.

Would be nice, but I don't quite see where it fits in with the D&D/Rogue parody aspect.

With futa it would work without any change.

But yes, if adding females then that would mean that inflation wouldn't be the sole focus (unless you turn the PC into temp futa).

Replacing the word "cum" with "lust" doesn't change the mechnic. It's still a resource to manage, the only difference is that it can be caused by more than cum.

 

[NitrogeniuM]

Few things i would like to see in this Game is an "Empty Uterus" button to Reduce the Cum levels and let's say it reduces 5~10% of the Cum gauge but it skips 1 turn.
maybe a Game mode where Hunger is not Enabled because It kind of forces you to keep moving and be efficient, reduces your Freedom to Explore every angle of the map.
respawning Monsters would also be cool in the mode without Hunger and maybe some NPC where you can Buy Stuff.
I think it would be cool if Armor was a Part of the game and not just an Outfit (cardboard Default outfit) Yes it's a lot more Work to model Different kinds of armor and make them work together but it would make the game more diverse in terms of builds and more interesting for longer runs. (separate parts like , Bottom , Top , Armguard).
And a NG+ would be cool to just Rerun with your Current Gear But the enemies would be stronger.
And I think Larger maps would be cooler like Increasing the Minimum amount of Tiles to be generated would be cool

 

[zmatrt]

Since the game has a mechanism to penalize the player for having sex, one could argue that, for immersion, the player is encouraged NOT to engage in sex scenes, since indulging in 'sexy times' can result in a game over. I don't see the point of Forcing a player to engage in sex in a game that punishes the player for engaging in eroticism in an Erotic roguelike game.
Wouldn't it be more immersive if the player could approach enemies with lewd intentions and not be punished for it?


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The main problem I had with your suggest was that it felt like pretty much an instant game over event.

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I just went through 2 loops of the game (on a new game) and encountered exactly ZERO Cun'Thulu shrines and a single Cumpkin. Which means that at the end of the second loop, I had about 98ish cum storage. If I had encountered one of your suggested monsters, I would probably have been 'game overed' a few times.

It all comes back to the RNG in this game. You might have the absolute bestest, of bestest luck and ALWAYS get lots of shrines to boost your storage, but us mere mortals are completely at the mercy of RNGeezus and your suggested monster would likely game over people more than they would be able to beat the dungeon.

You are not completely punished, if you use a ring of regeneration, for example, you can be immortal for several turns if you saved a scroll of +1 on it, and you get a luck buff also, every run I do fuck with a slime or a goblin to get the luck boost to equip better gear early on. You can still leverage the consequences. I was thinking more of a Vampire tier enemy, since it's a really weak enemy and it's presence is less than relevant given it's placed from Lava onwards i'd argue.

It's not an instant game over event, Aphrodisiac gas increases the cum recovery in NPCs to 10 per turn, no need to do for something that extreme you could cut that number by half and that's three turns of cooldown for the player to use to easily kill a monster with that low HP, considering that you can increase your strength up several points with the vending machines even if you were dealt a bad seed on regards to strength potions and wands of enhancement, add that the ally to that factor, the player as of now is currently really really strong.

I haven't given any specific numeric example because what I described was just a simple concept.

I don't think that this game is so RNG dependant you make it out to be. It takes just few tries to master the basics of the mechanics and it's more than enough to clear a few loops to the game with that. I also don't think it's bad if the hypothetical enemy would've ended your 2nd loop run, roguelikes are like that. Sometimes you are dealt with a bad hand and you make the best out of it. It adds to the replayability.

Adding to all that, reviving ally's is really cheap, someone said that the cost should be double the HP, but that's another opportunity to add the use of enemy's seed as material to revive the fallen ally. There you cover the preggo fetish guys out there. lol

 

[memeLordo]

Pretty decent and easy seed, if anyone needs one
322253395, plenty of scrappable things for bits many statues, many enchantments, stats could be higher but I went around several times looking for a skull but there unfortunately is none.
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I guess, with addition to reusable companions at a low cost of health, the current state of completion is much easier, comparing to previous versions, where even with a good luck I still haven't managed to reach the end floor. They definitely should be nerfed.

 

[D4n0w4r]

Few things i would like to see in this Game is an "Empty Uterus" button to Reduce the Cum levels and let's say it reduces 5~10% of the Cum gauge but it skips 1 turn.

I'm just spitballing here, but I wish the cum meter was more like a mana bar of sorts. Instead of triggering ring effects from fucking, it would instead drain the meter gradually whenever you equip them. Maybe spellbooks could use cum as well. idk. I think it would be more interesting to do since it would be a balancing act between having enough cum for abilities and not having too much to trigger a game over/other potential penalties.

 

[The_Knut]

Is the holy fountain useful for something else if you dont have cursed gear or weapons to bless?

 

[LewdPhyre]

Is the holy fountain useful for something else if you dont have cursed gear or weapons to bless?

Blessed Summoning Tomes summon x2 monsters. Good for getting Threesome animations unlocked in gallery, and pretty much the only way to get the Double Skull animation.

 

[MildMonster74]

Since the game has a mechanism to penalize the player for having sex, one could argue that, for immersion, the player is encouraged NOT to engage in sex scenes, since indulging in 'sexy times' can result in a game over. I don't see the point of Forcing a player to engage in sex in a game that punishes the player for engaging in eroticism in an Erotic roguelike game.
Wouldn't it be more immersive if the player could approach enemies with lewd intentions and not be punished for it?


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The main problem I had with your suggest was that it felt like pretty much an instant game over event.

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I just went through 2 loops of the game (on a new game) and encountered exactly ZERO Cun'Thulu shrines and a single Cumpkin. Which means that at the end of the second loop, I had about 98ish cum storage. If I had encountered one of your suggested monsters, I would probably have been 'game overed' a few times.

It all comes back to the RNG in this game. You might have the absolute bestest, of bestest luck and ALWAYS get lots of shrines to boost your storage, but us mere mortals are completely at the mercy of RNGeezus and your suggested monster would likely game over people more than they would be able to beat the dungeon.

I don't agree that its there to punish the player. It's more like a tool the player can use as a get out of jail card or desperation move with some resource management to balance it out so the player can't just abuse it to get through every fight. There are times when an H scene can come in handy to give you some breathing room as it stuns enemies plus it ties into other things like succubus rings and items that give bonuses off sex

 

[BaLoNeZE]

Has anyone managed to launch the game through Winlator on Android?

 

[CaptainBipto]

I don't agree that its there to punish the player. It's more like a tool the player can use as a get out of jail card or desperation move with some resource management to balance it out so the player can't just abuse it to get through every fight. There are times when an H scene can come in handy to give you some breathing room as it stuns enemies plus it ties into other things like succubus rings and items that give bonuses off sex

Okay. Agree to disagree?

If the cum meter isn't there to punish the player for engaging in sex, why not just remove it and put sex options on a 10-20 turn cooldown. It would still restrict the amount you could abuse the stun mechanic of sex, but you don't have to worry about dying because you had too much sex.

 

[CaptainBipto]

You are not completely punished, if you use a ring of regeneration, for example, you can be immortal for several turns if you saved a scroll of +1 on it, and you get a luck buff also, every run I do fuck with a slime or a goblin to get the luck boost to equip better gear early on. You can still leverage the consequences. I was thinking more of a Vampire tier enemy, since it's a really weak enemy and it's presence is less than relevant given it's placed from Lava onwards i'd argue.

It's not an instant game over event, Aphrodisiac gas increases the cum recovery in NPCs to 10 per turn, no need to do for something that extreme you could cut that number by half and that's three turns of cooldown for the player to use to easily kill a monster with that low HP, considering that you can increase your strength up several points with the vending machines even if you were dealt a bad seed on regards to strength potions and wands of enhancement, add that the ally to that factor, the player as of now is currently really really strong.

I haven't given any specific numeric example because what I described was just a simple concept.

I don't think that this game is so RNG dependant you make it out to be. It takes just few tries to master the basics of the mechanics and it's more than enough to clear a few loops to the game with that. I also don't think it's bad if the hypothetical enemy would've ended your 2nd loop run, roguelikes are like that. Sometimes you are dealt with a bad hand and you make the best out of it. It adds to the replayability.

Adding to all that, reviving ally's is really cheap, someone said that the cost should be double the HP, but that's another opportunity to add the use of enemy's seed as material to revive the fallen ally. There you cover the preggo fetish guys out there. lol

'If you use a ring of regeneration' ... Good lord. I think you are blessed when it comes to RNG. For me, that ring is like finding the holy grail, I have lost count of the number of games I have played and never found a ring of regeneration.

You are right, a Vampire tier enemy isn't that horrible, but in your first message you didn't say anything about that and nothing about how high of a cum regeneration they would have.
Something like what you are describing in this reply isn't that horrible and not that hard to deal with ... and wouldn't have sent me off on a rant about it.

On the RNG thing, as I said before, you might just have much better luck with the RNG in this game than I have had. My most common problem is was running out of healing. The vending machines help a lot, but before this version, I had quite a few runs end, just because I had no healing available.
It's all fine, that is just part of the nature of RogueLike games. Frustrating as fuck when RNG decides it hates you.

 

[The_Knut]

Blessed Summoning Tomes summon x2 monsters. Good for getting Threesome animations unlocked in gallery, and pretty much the only way to get the Double Skull animation.

I see, what about rings? I had a couple blessed but could not notice anything different from normal ones, maybe I just didnt test enough. Sometimes I feel like this game needs a QoL pass, the base content is great for expanding but there's quite a few small things that adds up and bothers me a bit, like the lack of a hotkeybar so you can throw swords without having to open 2 menus everytime or inventory icons like in modded Skyrim where you can see the type of gear by a glance, somewhere showing the inventory limit, etc. I could make a list if I put everything haha.

 

[zmatrt]

'If you use a ring of regeneration' ... Good lord. I think you are blessed when it comes to RNG. For me, that ring is like finding the holy grail, I have lost count of the number of games I have played and never found a ring of regeneration.

haha, not really. If I feel like really really really want to do a run down to the end, you can savescum a bit. RoR may be rare, but they are not a requirement to win the game either. You usually get at least two Health Potions each run, save them for use only when you get lower than 20 HP, you can use the terrain in your favor fight one at a time in a corridor or at a door, have sex and leave locking the door behind you, sometimes it works if I cannot continue that combat, if the enemy follows I take advantage of that extra turn and throw swords to mitigate damage received, use the burning wands, if you get a fire incantation for one sword and you can hit and run. Do you use the Diagonals? It's the most important part, economizing your routing is what makes or breaks the run. Also, use the scrolls, they are the most common drop and there's little negative consequences being frugal with them.

Usually what annoys me the most is not finding an Altar to ID cursed gear.

 

[huak2123]

Full CG unclock Save for 0.3.
Enjoy

Seems like the bookshelf will appear after you had broken the mirror IDK.
The hardest one was the two skull animation because the grave will only spawn in some floor and just only one.
So I used the charm wand to attract a skull then he will follow you from one floor to the other floor.

The bath scene was easy because the Smith Minotaur will peep at you when you in the bath. If you go directly to the bath and go out you will see he was coming out from the right fake wall which is right oppsite to his anvil. So you just need to go there and take a bath on the behind then CG will unlock.

 

[CaptainBipto]

haha, not really. If I feel like really really really want to do a run down to the end, you can savescum a bit. RoR may be rare, but they are not a requirement to win the game either. You usually get at least two Health Potions each run, save them for use only when you get lower than 20 HP, you can use the terrain in your favor fight one at a time in a corridor or at a door, have sex and leave locking the door behind you, sometimes it works if I cannot continue that combat, if the enemy follows I take advantage of that extra turn and throw swords to mitigate damage received, use the burning wands, if you get a fire incantation for one sword and you can hit and run. Do you use the Diagonals? It's the most important part, economizing your routing is what makes or breaks the run. Also, use the scrolls, they are the most common drop and there's little negative consequences being frugal with them.

Usually what annoys me the most is not finding an Altar to ID cursed gear.

Oh, I don't really have a problem with the game. I have learned a few tricks while playing.
I never bothered with trying to close doors, since it took a turn to close them, it was just easier for me to bypass it and run for the nearest corridor.
I try not to save scum much, but RNG in this game can be a bitch, so I be a bitch back at it by save scumming now and then.

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[100%grilll]

still cent run the game

 

[tylex]

Anyone know how to fix broken cum textures?

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[Heedoth]

Anyone know how to fix broken cum textures?

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Was antialising for me that fucked it

 

[tylex]

Was antialising for me that fucked it

That fixed it thanks!