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I tried it just in case, caused issues loading the game. So I removed it and it's working fine again.
- Jul 2, 2021
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So... Remake + AI uncanny valley + paid walkthrough + paywall content + unnecessary UI changing + sloppy plot with strange flashbacks = straight example of disaster game.
But damn, what a start was in the beginning!
And all ruined now by greed and pseudo-perfectionism.
Bye game, rest in peace.
But damn, what a start was in the beginning!
And all ruined now by greed and pseudo-perfectionism.
Bye game, rest in peace.
Another problem of Dev is her lack of comunicating skills. Her Discord is seem dead. Seem she actully replied to me in discord was more like my Luck, since she rarely reply to even her Patrons. Basicaly no one even asked about structure of game she planing. So no one knew for third year of development if MC would pick girls for harem until some random guy like me asked.
Which is hilarious and show what kind comunication level her fans with her had when they cant even ask basic stuf related to game.
Comunication is important to build trust so fans wont start suspected they are scamed.
Good example how dude who made that game My New Memories also cant produce New Content because of problems with German Police, yet he comunicated alot with his fans and they kept their suport despite him not able produce much content.
If she atleast was talking with fans and explaining them what she planing, and why she cant produce content so fast(from what it seem her story prety standart strict asian parents want her get one job yet she rebeled and decided live on her own and now have to work 2 jobs to pay bills, since game isnt as prophitable as she thought it will be).
Now she also perfectionist which basicaly makego nust if something isnt going how she intented to be, so she always ahve irge restart and make it perfect, and when it fail again, she go nuts even more and again restarting it.
And worst is because of lack of comunication seem her fans dont even know if she gona drop game or not.
Funny part is even now she can corect all past mistakes, if she would start deal with this novel and any potential future novels as prober buisness not just some hobby of rebel teen girl.
Now I by the way I get what is this Bipolarity of female characters: It teen girl rage when she have supressed emotions by strict parents.
As for Dev herself she seem young girl, who push her own emotions into all her characters. As she said herself she 90% Nanamy and 10% Antonela. Basicaly Nanamy is what she is in real life and Antonela what she want to be but cant.
And it not actualy bad I think, because in the way her characters based on real life woman so they kinda realistic, which make them more interisting. Because most women in these novels are based on how males wished them to be: obidient and so on.
I think she could have monetize her characters if she basicaly would make proper transformation from real life angry teen girls into typical females male fanatsy girl. And process of taming these "tsundare" girls would something male fans would enjoy.
So that is not bad think, like I said taming crasy girls is fun.
But again lack of comunication make her simply dont understand what her fans want. She completely new to everithing.
She even confessed she had zero idea how make sexual scene originaly. Since she seem wanted make non sexual harem dating sim, but realised there already lots of those so she went for sexual. So she had to play other games to understand how sex work and what is usually going in those novels.
And that was mistake, if I wanted make Otome games for girls I woudl ask fangirls on forum what they like, what archtype of dudes they find atractive and what not, what plot they prefer. ALways gather data from original source: real people, not from secondary.
So instead of asking her fans what they really enjoy she simply guesing and sometime she hit sometime she miss. Some of her new sexual scenes are good like whole Isabela scene, but some of them look weird. Sometime she push sexual content too soon like MC see his mother pissing. Like holy hell wait girl, he barely talked with her and you already pushing water sports. Or sometime it too long like content with his daughter in previous versions of game took forever to even begin.
Good erotic games have balance between sexual content and drama, and build sexul corruption of girls slowly but steady.
Anyway despite all this I would recomend not drop game, but basicaly gather herself together. She clearly have unique art style which would allow her produce not only this game, but alot of such games if she would take it abit more serious.
I would also recomend her work on her comunicating skills since only way sell these games through marketing: engage with fans and promise them Golden Mountains, they would get hyped and would market game for her.
Basicaly she should signal every 5 minute she wont disapear and take game developing serious. So her fans would stay and beleive she would eventually finish game.
I wrought this wall of text because I personaly enjoy game, depspite all it flaws, because it have potential. It have tags I like: Virginity, Harem, Incest, Impregnation,FFM. Those are actully rare and not much of games with those tags at same time.
I just hope dev wont drop game. But instead would finish this game, learn from her mistakes and would make in future games with similiar tags.
But unfortuantly there is risk she may simply drop it all, which would be huge shame, because potential is great.
Which is hilarious and show what kind comunication level her fans with her had when they cant even ask basic stuf related to game.
Comunication is important to build trust so fans wont start suspected they are scamed.
Good example how dude who made that game My New Memories also cant produce New Content because of problems with German Police, yet he comunicated alot with his fans and they kept their suport despite him not able produce much content.
If she atleast was talking with fans and explaining them what she planing, and why she cant produce content so fast(from what it seem her story prety standart strict asian parents want her get one job yet she rebeled and decided live on her own and now have to work 2 jobs to pay bills, since game isnt as prophitable as she thought it will be).
Now she also perfectionist which basicaly makego nust if something isnt going how she intented to be, so she always ahve irge restart and make it perfect, and when it fail again, she go nuts even more and again restarting it.
And worst is because of lack of comunication seem her fans dont even know if she gona drop game or not.
Funny part is even now she can corect all past mistakes, if she would start deal with this novel and any potential future novels as prober buisness not just some hobby of rebel teen girl.
Now I by the way I get what is this Bipolarity of female characters: It teen girl rage when she have supressed emotions by strict parents.
As for Dev herself she seem young girl, who push her own emotions into all her characters. As she said herself she 90% Nanamy and 10% Antonela. Basicaly Nanamy is what she is in real life and Antonela what she want to be but cant.
And it not actualy bad I think, because in the way her characters based on real life woman so they kinda realistic, which make them more interisting. Because most women in these novels are based on how males wished them to be: obidient and so on.
I think she could have monetize her characters if she basicaly would make proper transformation from real life angry teen girls into typical females male fanatsy girl. And process of taming these "tsundare" girls would something male fans would enjoy.
So that is not bad think, like I said taming crasy girls is fun.
But again lack of comunication make her simply dont understand what her fans want. She completely new to everithing.
She even confessed she had zero idea how make sexual scene originaly. Since she seem wanted make non sexual harem dating sim, but realised there already lots of those so she went for sexual. So she had to play other games to understand how sex work and what is usually going in those novels.
And that was mistake, if I wanted make Otome games for girls I woudl ask fangirls on forum what they like, what archtype of dudes they find atractive and what not, what plot they prefer. ALways gather data from original source: real people, not from secondary.
So instead of asking her fans what they really enjoy she simply guesing and sometime she hit sometime she miss. Some of her new sexual scenes are good like whole Isabela scene, but some of them look weird. Sometime she push sexual content too soon like MC see his mother pissing. Like holy hell wait girl, he barely talked with her and you already pushing water sports. Or sometime it too long like content with his daughter in previous versions of game took forever to even begin.
Good erotic games have balance between sexual content and drama, and build sexul corruption of girls slowly but steady.
Anyway despite all this I would recomend not drop game, but basicaly gather herself together. She clearly have unique art style which would allow her produce not only this game, but alot of such games if she would take it abit more serious.
I would also recomend her work on her comunicating skills since only way sell these games through marketing: engage with fans and promise them Golden Mountains, they would get hyped and would market game for her.
Basicaly she should signal every 5 minute she wont disapear and take game developing serious. So her fans would stay and beleive she would eventually finish game.
I wrought this wall of text because I personaly enjoy game, depspite all it flaws, because it have potential. It have tags I like: Virginity, Harem, Incest, Impregnation,FFM. Those are actully rare and not much of games with those tags at same time.
I just hope dev wont drop game. But instead would finish this game, learn from her mistakes and would make in future games with similiar tags.
But unfortuantly there is risk she may simply drop it all, which would be huge shame, because potential is great.
- Sep 26, 2021
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Honestly the original version was better, they loaded it in animations, renders (now it uses AI for the characters and they practically look bad in contrast to how they looked initially)
The truth is, I don't know what's wrong with the DEV, Madison's personality was a little annoying before, now she's a total bitch, who honestly, no matter how much I love redheads, one like that is not worth it and every interaction with her, if there was the option to tell her to go fuck herself.
I would do it without thinking twice, now that I think about it the DEV every time he keeps doing the rework of the rework and keeps screwing up, honestly if he's fed up, he mentally blocked himself or other things, I abandoned the game and I hate that they do that with games, but in this case it is advisable that he leave it or give it to someone that I am very sure that if someone takes it up again, they will do it with the original version
The truth is, I don't know what's wrong with the DEV, Madison's personality was a little annoying before, now she's a total bitch, who honestly, no matter how much I love redheads, one like that is not worth it and every interaction with her, if there was the option to tell her to go fuck herself.
I would do it without thinking twice, now that I think about it the DEV every time he keeps doing the rework of the rework and keeps screwing up, honestly if he's fed up, he mentally blocked himself or other things, I abandoned the game and I hate that they do that with games, but in this case it is advisable that he leave it or give it to someone that I am very sure that if someone takes it up again, they will do it with the original version
It can be seen from the changes in the story of this game in the past few years that she is very serious and has never thought of giving up.
Not to mention she can be seen learning and trying new software in the game with almost every update.
Just because she doesn’t interact with players as much doesn’t mean she’ll give up.
If you take the time to understand the current state of modern Japanese culture and society, you'll understand that this is nothing to worry about.
In fact, all Asians are less expressive and more reserved than Europeans and Americans.
Requiring non-native English speakers to communicate with players multiple times a day is inherently difficult. Put yourself in their shoes and think about what it would be like to be asked to communicate with someone in Chinese or Japanese multiple times a day.
Many non-native English speakers use translators when communicating in order to be precise with their words ,like me.
Because I have seen and experienced many times others laughed because of grammar.
- Sep 16, 2020
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They need a WT mod showing what choices gives points. Also, are there any wrong answers that ends with a game over?
There is build in WT for Tier users. For now there is no wrong answears but dev told in future will be.
- Sep 16, 2020
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Since when is flirting considered as corruption? I wish games like this would get rid of the corruption aspect of the game and just let the players play how they want to. I like to flirt but don't want to corrupt anyone.
Remake actully indeed make some things beter though I dont think it need to return:
1. MC now can personaly take Amber virignity in first Episode
2. Isabela Ark werent moving anywhere in Previous game. Now it show she actully try somehow seduce MC
3. Paz and Arlete finaly explain who they are, in previous games they never apeared aside Phone Mesages
4. Madison became much more beter, now she try be agresive and manipulative. Before she was just plain abit
5. Whole ark with those Yakuza atleast now hava sense abit
6. Antonela Ark look more polished.
7. But most important gameplay structure of game finaly look decent. On top of corruption love points system she added also special events which would only triger if enough points happen, and these special events MC can lock girl into harem or reject them. It also allow pick position girl of harem: Full Wife with Kids, Just wife without kids, Just fuck budy, or reject.
So game structure seem decent.
What become worse:
1. Elisabeth ark became too rushed, maybe next update would change it. It kinda mom of MC after all, those mostly need the most slow seduction development though.
2. Some content was cuted out but seem may return in new episodes.
3. AI Art in Episode 2 wasnt good, but maybe dev will rework it since she got original picture later
4. Lack of animations because of using AI.
1. MC now can personaly take Amber virignity in first Episode
2. Isabela Ark werent moving anywhere in Previous game. Now it show she actully try somehow seduce MC
3. Paz and Arlete finaly explain who they are, in previous games they never apeared aside Phone Mesages
4. Madison became much more beter, now she try be agresive and manipulative. Before she was just plain abit
5. Whole ark with those Yakuza atleast now hava sense abit
6. Antonela Ark look more polished.
7. But most important gameplay structure of game finaly look decent. On top of corruption love points system she added also special events which would only triger if enough points happen, and these special events MC can lock girl into harem or reject them. It also allow pick position girl of harem: Full Wife with Kids, Just wife without kids, Just fuck budy, or reject.
So game structure seem decent.
What become worse:
1. Elisabeth ark became too rushed, maybe next update would change it. It kinda mom of MC after all, those mostly need the most slow seduction development though.
2. Some content was cuted out but seem may return in new episodes.
3. AI Art in Episode 2 wasnt good, but maybe dev will rework it since she got original picture later
4. Lack of animations because of using AI.
Well most of these girls virigns who never kissed a guy and for most of them MC their first love, so for them kissing would seem corruption).
But corruption needed for building harem. From what Dev told, if girl wont be corrupted they wont agree on FFM or be part of harem, but would demand solo, aside from certain combinations of girls which would determined by special event.
- Sep 16, 2020
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If that's the case, then they should have a WT mod showing what choices leads to a harem. Playing a game blindly and expecting the players to understand what choices leads to a harem, is nuts. I'm one of those players where I don't like to force or corrupt people but still want a harem out of love.
- Sep 16, 2020
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Once again, a Dev is discriminating the players who can't afford to pay for a tier. Devs needs to realize not everyone can work and make lots of money. I live off SSI which isn't much.
- Sep 16, 2020
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Also, i have a question about the beginning. Did the MC have some kind of accident? His daughter is worried about him on the train and he mentioned that he was given pain med.
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