indio68

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An honest question: Is this a very late April Fool's joke?

If not, why remake something good? I don't really care about AI and all, but why remake something that's already great? Maybe add additional scenes or remaster the game and dialogues, but a full remake wasn't a good move. And using AI to try to improve the character designs (which were already good) isn't helpful unless the AI is trained properly to maintain consistency in the characters' faces.
IT'S THE REMAKE CURSE THAT IS SPREADING ALL OVER THE VN'S DEVS...it's clear now...just looking at the amount of games that have no reason to be reworked , but devs do this all over again...this makes me think of a way to milk customers for long time...there is no other valid reason...where the heart is- life in santacounty. Shut up and dancxe-welkome to hell:vampire cronichles-Bite- just namingf a few...this is becoming annoying
 

McHadi93

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The more important question is the Mc is still such a wimp.
If I remember the story he was supposed to be such a badass cop but with his family he has no backbone and no self-esteem at all :ROFLMAO:
And there weren't many sex scenes either
 

Myscho

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Damn i was really happy to see the game being updated... then i saw it´s a remake :(
So now we wait fore 2-3 years for the game to make it to the point where it was before the remake, just to be abandoned for good?
I think it will be sooner than that, because now they use AI to create renders
 

JESparrow

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Yes, this is obviously a 'daz modeling mistake.' Definitely not AI. I mean this is typical daz behavior when it comes to mistakes - I don't know where these lowlives get off insulting the dev by bashing the use of AI.

.. definitely doesn't seem like the dev spent the entire time with their hands down their pants and couldn't check on the AI post queue.

"When a wise man points at the moon, the idiot looks at the finger."
As a chronic wanker, I only saw disfigured fingers in the renders, there was no moon. Do i need to take my hands out of my pants to see them?
 

Myscho

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I have to say, first two episode are now better than before (not mention images), story and MC now have solid background, i hope that Dev dont repeat the same mistake which happens after ep 5 where all girls went to b*tch ass crazy mode
 
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Uddu

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I haven't read the whole thread but, I don't think people had issues with the artwork, only the writing.
Giving the benefit of the doubt to the dev, since it's his game, and as a non-supporter, I don't have any significant say in your project but the consensus doesn't like your new artwork which says a lot. It doesn't matter if we know or not, It's about what's appealing to the eyes.
It's a VN, Visually if it's not good and in this case, degraded quality consumers will complain.
 

binglebangles

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I was hoping the ship may right itself over time, and it may still. I would say though, I don't think anyone should blow their "great idea" on their first game. Nobody really makes their magnum opus in any art field, right out the gate. I'll take another look if/when the "new" content catches up to where it left off previously.

Titties on the hips, c'mon dude. :unsure:
 

Scyths

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Haven't played the remake yet, but oddly enough this is one of the few games on this website that I don't mind a remake because everything could have been fleshed out much more toroughly without rushing. Also let's keep it a single game this time and not 2 different ones alright ?
 

leo_grouch

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Original game non Ai .jpg Ai remake  .jpg

Ai remake images look faded and blurry in comparison to original, wether it's the filter or what. The new images are not crisp and a little annoying to look at since they do have a blur to them. The originals do have a more natural tone in my opinion.

Not a fan of this remake, should have just gone on and made more content instead. Now who knows when the story will continue, if it actually does.
 

flaviopaganini

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I played the Remake first and found it technically very good, but the story doesn't say much, so I decided to play the normal version.

When playing the normal version, I don't understand the reason for the Remake. I even found the visuals of the original better, but some changes in the story of the Remake were better. However, it's not justified.

But when playing the original game, I thought it would be more complete, with more story, but I found it with very little content, and it doesn't help that the MC is an idiot. In this VN, the choices don't even make much sense, as the flow always follows the same pattern. If you combine the technical capability of this DEV with a good writer, something extraordinary could come out, but unfortunately, that's not the case.
 

Just Jericho

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I post the whole message since it's quite funny:

This is a message from the team:
We would like to clarify some aspects regarding the use of artificial intelligence (AI) in our project. The eyes in our game are not made with AI, although they may appear lifeless in the base Daz. Many other games that have "alive" eyes mostly achieve this in post-production or with expensive and rare assets.
We use AI as a helpful tool for things that would take a long time to fix. We know that some renders are not great, like the ones Monetka showed, but the worse the quality of the original render, the worse it looks. Look at relatively new renders, for example.
We don't use AI instead of Daz, nor do we make an AI-based game. It's only used alongside Photoshop and other tools as a post-production resource. It's not a miracle worker, but in many scenes, it makes hair and skin look less plastic, like in this Amber render. Something that would take a long time to re-render or retouch in Photoshop.
Someone said that Episode 2 is made with AI. That's not true. Most of the chapter is previously created content, apart from Arlette's story, which was made entirely on a new computer.
We hope this clarification helps to better understand our creative process and the use of AI in our project.



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This a message from me:
It's hilarious how some people think they're so smart, pointing out flaws like they've got some kind of "technical eye" that can spot the difference between Daz modeling mistakes and AI screw-ups. These guys must have spent so much time jerking off to virtual porn that they've become self-proclaimed art critics who can tell which program was used just by looking at it. Maybe all that time spent with their hands down their pants has clouded their judgment and made it hard for them to see straight.
Yeah, AI has helped me add some texture and volume to the characters' skin, but it hasn't touched the eyes, nails, or the shape of their fingers. And the butts? Give me a break. I wish AI could magically make the perfect ass for me. In fact, I'd love for these geniuses to give me a prompt that I can just copy and paste to create the entire visual novel in 2 days.
The nerve of these people to call out these supposed "flaws" is just plain insulting. They have no idea how much I've had to learn and the work I've put in to create a unique hybrid style that only my team knows how to pull off. And guess what? I don't owe anyone an explanation. But hey, if these experts think they're so clever, maybe they can give me a prompt to feed an AI that'll spit out the DAZ DUF for me. That way, I can stop wasting my time learning Spotlight and messing around with Ghost Lights.
And seriously, the whole Chapter 2 made by AI? What a joke. I'd like to see these guys try to make an AI fan-remake using whatever prompts they pull out of their ass. Maybe then they can try to teach me a thing or two. Apparently, being a chronic masturbator makes you an expert in Daz and AI these days.
Here's a piece of advice: "When a wise man points at the moon, the idiot looks at the finger." End of story.
All I can say is that Denial and Anger are the first 2 stages of grief. Yukana knows she fucked this up bad and she's taking it out on the fans former fans of the project. The high quality static renders were the one thing that kept people interested in this otherwise awful VN and then she ruined it by deferring to shitty AI for the post work instead of doing it herself. Lazy, sloppy, and no one to blame but herself.
 
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