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I somewhat trust him. If I remember correctly he is the one who set up the whole elfish slave thing. So unless the MC threatens what he built, he is relatively safe. Next point is that Cornwall has seen how the MC treats his slave(s) so the risk of him taking them away is minimal at the moment.
I just don‘t like him thinking about giving love to all those sweet elven girls out there. That‘s my job. I mean... the MC‘s job.
Cornwall didn't set up the Elvish slave thing. That would have been the "Crusaders" who found this new continent, who purged and enslaved the Elvish population.

Regarding Elven politics, the player knows that everything for Elves changed roughly 20 years ago, Autumn's father was the reason behind that, and Cornwall has the ability to take away anyone's slave.
 

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Yeah, that seems to be true. Maybe, I am just biased against him, because of my personal opinions on humans, unvoluntary slavery and those who profit from it.
I don't distrust Cornwall. I think the important thing to realize is that he sees elves as basically like animals. I think that Runey made this point once before.

People can love, respect, and want to protect animals without feeling the need to treat them the same way they treat humans. We don't let people let their dogs loose in the streets without leashes. Elf owners are expected to exhibit a degree of control over their elves, just like any other animal. The story-line appears to be moving towards convincing Cornwall and others that elves are more than animals, and are, in fact, just like humans.

Sometimes you just have to accept a fictional world's history. I know slavery is contentious, but after all, the reasoning above is basically what we used in our real world, so it's not like it completely destroys the bounds of reasoning.
 

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Cornwall didn't set up the Elvish slave thing. That would have been the "Crusaders" who found this new continent, who purged and enslaved the Elvish population.

Regarding Elven politics, the player knows that everything for Elves changed roughly 20 years ago, Autumn's father was the reason behind that, and Cornwall has the ability to take away anyone's slave.
IF HE TAKES MAH LIN IMMA GONNA SEE HIM IN COURT
 

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Cornwall didn't set up the Elvish slave thing. That would have been the "Crusaders" who found this new continent, who purged and enslaved the Elvish population.

Regarding Elven politics, the player knows that everything for Elves changed roughly 20 years ago, Autumn's father was the reason behind that, and Cornwall has the ability to take away anyone's slave.
I was just assuming he played a major role in either the enslavement or the introduction of slave rights, because of his ability to take slaves away. Now that I think about it, wasn't he regulating the slave market or something? I need to replay that story event, I think.

I don't distrust Cornwall. I think the important thing to realize is that he sees elves as basically like animals. I think that Runey made this point once before.

People can love, respect, and want to protect animals without feeling the need to treat them the same way they treat humans. We don't let people let their dogs loose in the streets without leashes. Elf owners are expected to exhibit a degree of control over their elves, just like any other animal. The story-line appears to be moving towards convincing Cornwall and others that elves are more than animals, and are, in fact, just like humans.

Sometimes you just have to accept a fictional world's history. I know slavery is contentious, but after all, the reasoning above is basically what we used in our real world, so it's not like it completely destroys the bounds of reasoning.
Yeah, that seems to be true. Maybe, I am just biased against him, because of my personal opinions on humans, unvoluntary slavery and those who profit from it.
I agree on where the story will go as it seems reasonable. If somebody doesn't like how people treat their slaves you can still create your head canon where you buy all the slaves, treat them decently but keep up the facade of a slave owner without freeing them. It seems to be a really bad idea to free your slave, since Runey said that any ownerless elf is free to be taken again which could end up with a much worse owner.
 

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Maria - Please don't cum inside me, I don't want to get pregnant (picture 1).
MC - Choose to cum inside Maria.
Maria is genuinely surprised, shocked, and terrified (picture 2).

MC - Cums inside Maria with every shower sex scene. Doesn't seem to fit. Maria asks the MC not to cum inside her in this scene and in every shower sex scene. She doesn't appear to have a secret desire to want to be creampied. You don't get really upset at someone and call them an asshole if she did. Maria - "DUDE! What the fuck!? You're such as asshole!" (picture 3) Maria is clearly not joking here. Maria's affection was reduced... (picture 4) - no secret creampie fetish. If Maria had a secret desire to be creampied it wouldn't result in an affection reduction / penalty.

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Maria - Please don't cum inside me, I don't want to get pregnant (picture 1).
MC - Choose to cum inside Maria.
Maria is genuinely surprised, shocked, and terrified (picture 2).

MC - Cums inside Maria with every shower sex scene. Doesn't seem to fit. Maria asks the MC not to cum inside her in this scene and in every shower sex scene. She doesn't appear to have a secret desire to want to be creampied. You don't get really upset at someone and call them an asshole if she did. Maria - "DUDE! What the fuck!? You're such as asshole!" (picture 3) Maria is clearly not joking here. Maria's affection was reduced... (picture 4) - no secret creampie fetish. If Maria had a secret desire to be creampied it wouldn't result in an affection reduction / penalty.

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Not agreeing or disagreeing with you. I mean, yes it seems strange, but I have not given it much thought. In my head it was something along the lines of "no creampie on stream". The affection reduction is a bit extreme though after the story with her progresses a bit more.
I just thought I dig up what Runey said about this topic the last time. I assume his stance on this hasn't changed much, but I'm not in his head. Although it would result in a need to remake either one or both scenes I believe.
In any case with Maria's shower scene, she secretly loves being creampied. When having anal sex, she loves it when you cum inside. She treats it as a faux pussy. If you think about it even deeper, Maria knows he came inside last time, and she knows he'll cum inside this time unless she says something. So she "forgets" to say something. Claiming "Oh well, I guess I didn't say anything so it's not your fault or anything. Guess we'll just have to live with it ;)"

Not word for word, of course. But she does enjoy creampies, just not getting pregnant. So her not saying anything removed blame from her, and from you.
 

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Maria - Please don't cum inside me, I don't want to get pregnant (picture 1).
MC - Choose to cum inside Maria.
Maria is genuinely surprised, shocked, and terrified (picture 2).

MC - Cums inside Maria with every shower sex scene. Doesn't seem to fit. Maria asks the MC not to cum inside her in this scene and in every shower sex scene. She doesn't appear to have a secret desire to want to be creampied. You don't get really upset at someone and call them an asshole if she did. Maria - "DUDE! What the fuck!? You're such as asshole!" (picture 3) Maria is clearly not joking here. Maria's affection was reduced... (picture 4) - no secret creampie fetish. If Maria had a secret desire to be creampied it wouldn't result in an affection reduction / penalty.

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Different contexts, different reactions.
She probably finds sudden sex in the shower more exciting and thus indulges more in her true desire. Whilst on stream instead she is thinking of other things as well, like the audience. Therefore she doesn't enjoy the MC doing whatever he wants. Besides, the streamed sex is supposed to happen before you are able to have shower sex, iirc, thus it represents a time in which Maria has a lower affection for the MC.
 

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Different contexts, different reactions.
She probably finds sudden sex in the shower more exciting and thus indulges more in her true desire. Whilst on stream instead she is thinking of other things as well, like the audience. Therefore she doesn't enjoy the MC doing whatever he wants. Besides, the streamed sex is supposed to happen before you are able to have shower sex, iirc, thus it represents a time in which Maria has a lower affection for the MC.
The scene with the attached pictures isn't a part of early streaming events ( ). It comes much later once the MC builds her relationship more. Maria invites the MC into her room after her date where she asks the MC lots of personal questions and the MC punches out her ex-boyfriend (mid to late game). She then says she is horny and proposes sex. Maria doesn't want the MC to cum inside her pussy because she doesn't want to get pregnant. Shower sex with Maria is in her pussy. If Maria does have a creampie fetish it is only in her ass, not her pussy.
 
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The scene with the attached pictures isn't a part of streaming ( ). It comes later once the MC builds her relationship more. Maria invites the MC into her room after her date where she asks the MC lots of personal questions and the MC punches out her ex-boyfriend (mid to late game). She then says she is horny and proposes sex. Maria doesn't want the MC to cum inside her pussy because she doesn't want to get pregnant. Shower sex with Maria is in her pussy. If Maria does have a creampie fetish it is only in her ass, not her pussy.
Huh, I am pretty sure that right before your screenshots she has text where she specifically thanks for the tips. But I am thinking of the cowgirl scene you can request from her once it is unlocked. During that you can read from her text, that the action occurs during streaming. I might be off and if that is so, please disregard what I wrote.
 

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Huh, I am pretty sure that right before your screenshots she has text where she specifically thanks for the tips. But I am thinking of the cowgirl scene you can request from her once it is unlocked. During that you can read from her text, that the action occurs during streaming. I might be off and if that is so, please disregard what I wrote.
You are correct, but it isn't the first streaming sex they have. It occurs much later, long after shower sex with Maria is available. After their long date, Maria does turn on the camera but their relationship is quite good at this point. Sorry for the confusion.
 

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MC - Cums inside Maria with every shower sex scene. Doesn't seem to fit. Maria asks the MC not to cum inside her in this scene and in every shower sex scene. She doesn't appear to have a secret desire to want to be creampied. You don't get really upset at someone and call them an asshole if she did. Maria - "DUDE! What the fuck!? You're such as asshole!" (picture 3) Maria is clearly not joking here. Maria's affection was reduced... (picture 4) - no secret creampie fetish. If Maria had a secret desire to be creampied it wouldn't result in an affection reduction / penalty.
Haven't we been over this already? I could be wrong, since it's been a while, but I'm pretty sure I remember her enjoying it at the beach scene with Ashley.
 
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MC - Cums inside Maria with every shower sex scene. Doesn't seem to fit. Maria asks the MC not to cum inside her in this scene and in every shower sex scene.
Haven't we been over this already? I could be wrong, since it's been a while, but I'm pretty sure I remember her enjoying it at the beach scene with Ashley.
There's definitely one scene that changes the whole issue from "you asshole" to "go ahead" - I just can't remember where exactly it was... ...but from that moment on you can come inside her in the repeatables without her complaining...

And about the shower scenes (and I had this discussion with Runey): Felicity and Emma still furiously send the MC away in the shower (even with both having the "in love" trait) ---> Shower scenes just don't have a high priority, just take them as "bonus eye candy" where available...
 
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Probably not going to happen but will the "stressed" appearance Ashley show up again? I found her really cute and felt like she wouldn't stab me or any of the girls. :ROFLMAO:
 
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