VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.1] [Runey]

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Runey

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Harem_Master said:
I agree, and if Runey were to flesh out more male NPC's, I'm sure he'd get even more complaints that it's distracting from the gist of the game. There are enough trees in this forest, but nobody minds a few more beavers! ;)
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Yeah, I just don't really care to include other dudes. I mean, what's better than a bro with tits and a pussy, right? Why give 'em a dick?
 
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So a bit of constructive criticism...of sorts. not gonna spoiler anything because this is a random scene with little context. screenshot0002.png
in scenes like this, where several characters are gathered with one talking, i would have the others paying attention to the speaker. this can be done by having them directly looking at the speaker, or glancing in his/her direction.

other ways to make this scene(and others like it.) feel more alive is to have the other characters(during dialogue changes) glance around or shift their weight a bit. a couple scenes ago, Lin, Maria, Autumn and Hana were all posed EXACTLY the same way with Ashley just standing in the back. adding some more personality to their poses like in this scene would liven things up some(examples: Maria having both arms behind her back in a coy manner. autumn and hana are fine but Lin should look more uncomfortable here due to her past. Not sure what Ashley would be doing.)

I'v noticed this as of late and realized it's a constant thing. so adding in some minute interactions like the above can make them feel more "alive" if you will.
 
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saru341 said:
So a bit of constructive criticism...of sorts. not gonna spoiler anything because this is a random scene with little context. View attachment 901891
in scenes like this, where several characters are gathered with one talking, i would have the others paying attention to the speaker. this can be done by having them directly looking at the speaker, or glancing in his/her direction.

other ways to make this scene(and others like it.) feel more alive is to have the other characters(during dialogue changes) glance around or shift their weight a bit. a couple scenes ago, Lin, Maria, Autumn and Hana were all posed EXACTLY the same way with Ashley just standing in the back. adding some more personality to their poses like in this scene would liven things up some(examples: Maria having both arms behind her back in a coy manner. autumn and hana are fine but Lin should look more uncomfortable here due to her past. Not sure what Ashley would be doing.)

I'v noticed this as of late and realized it's a constant thing. so adding in some minute interactions like the above can make them feel more "alive" if you will.
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There's a scene from the old show "Friends" where the group is gathered around the character Ross's new baby and they talk, but look into the camera as if fascinated by the kid. It's what I thought of when I saw this event.
 
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Harem_Master said:
There's a scene from the old show "Friends" where the group is gathered around the character Ross's new baby and they talk, but look into the camera as if fascinated by the kid. It's what I thought of when I saw this event.
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I'v never seen friends, or not much of it. but when i'm with friends and one of us is talking(even if its about an art piece or other.) we usually at least show we're paying attention in some way.

It's just a way to possibly make these scenes feel more alive. at least from my perspective.
 
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saru341 said:
I'v never seen friends, or not much of it. but when i'm with friends and one of us is talking(even if its about an art piece or other.) we usually at least show we're paying attention in some way.

It's just a way to possibly make these scenes feel more alive. at least from my perspective.
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Perhaps, I can see looking at the thing we are all talking about too though, to show you are interested in the piece.
 
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Runey said:
Yep, you can buy Peni, just buy her on the computer, go to sleep, and pick her up in the morning.
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Did I wait too long? Kept getting interrupted in the mornings and I can't seem to find her... XD
 
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Assassini said:
I'm actually kind of surprised to see a comment saying this... I actually remember I left a comment here back in January/February, right after v0.10 dropped where I basically questioned the amount of content in the update, because it felt like a pretty small update (with the exception of the first half of Lin's adventure to Elf-land) and I was pretty disappointed by that.

I've only now got around to trying v0.11 in the last few days and it feels like there's at least a few solid hours of content. Every girl has at least a few "story" interactions and quite a few of them feel very major, so I'd say it feels like a pretty substantial update.

One also needs to be a bit understanding of any issues caused by COVID, so if it somehow seems like a smaller update to anyone else (which, again, I'd dispute), remember to keep that in mind.

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I also wanted to give a few overall thoughts on the update (I did a review on here ages back so at some point will need to update that as well, I suspect...) so I hope you'll all forgive the forthcoming word-vomit (I just love the sound of my own opinions I guess? :p ).

Basically, I seriously enjoyed it. As always, Kali is best girl (fite me), and I fucking love a lot of the kinks Runey uses. I also like that a bunch of the side-girls got wee snippets of content as well. Although I will say that given how many different girls there at this point I am beginning to think a clue/hint system might not go amiss. For example, I had a point with Autumn saying for me to join her in the shower and I have ABSOLUTELY no idea when that happens... And she's one of the main girls, not even a side one.

Also, just gonna call it now (assuming it's not already been announced) but protest girl from Kali's Uni is gonna be the last girl introduced to the hotel. She stands out way too much to be relegated as a background character. Although I guess Runey did do that with goth shop-girl... Either way though, I'd put money on this.

For the first time I'm starting to have a couple of minor complaints though. It's happened before to a minor degree, but as of this update I'm starting to feel a tiny bit exhausted with some of the "lore" aspects. It seemed like this particular episode had SO much exposition just dumped on you, which isn't ideal I think.

Edit: I actually also just saw the recent review by HogRocket and honestly, I think I 100% agree. I love Harem Hotel for being basically the ultimate fantasy in BDSM harem porn... But it really does feel like the sheer level of political/lore-focused content right now is just a bit over-the-top and kind of ruins the "fun" a bit. I feel like it could benefit from being spread out a bit during updates, but that is just me.

I also fucked myself a tiny bit by having to spend the $4000 at one point, coinciding with Autumn's anger with you. So now I'm $2000 in debt and need to skip forward basically 2 weeks so I can actually proceed with her again. Which is a bit... Frustrating...

On a technical note, I'm beginning to see a LOT of minor inconsistencies in terms of clothes for the models. Individually it's not a huge deal, but it happens so regularly that I can't imagine how long it'd take to fix all of them (I could list the ones I remember if it helps). For example, off the top of my head, one very egregious example is that during the "Kali get's a haircut" scene, her appearance changes in the mirror but NOT the actual model. Which was a bit weird.

Lastly, I may have mentioned this before but I'm kind of getting a bit pissed off with the main character and how he acts with Edi. I realise for the most part he's not supposed to have a very strong personality so that we can self-insert... However, the scene with Edi showing off tonnes of other women's nudes and then showing off, scaring others and then basically blowing up and threatening others when they reacted poorly. That whole thing frustrated me. It feels like the protag needs to take a MUCH harder stance here and have the option to tell Edi to tone it down. He keeps just letting her do stupid things and then being all "Oh you just have a lot to learn". Like, fuck that. No? You have to be the one to teach her!

Maybe there's plans for this down the line, but I seriously fucking hope that you get the opportunity to actually get her in line a bit. I realise that might be odd for a basically omnipotent AI, but at this rate she's one tantrum away from just zapping people dead. And that's not fun!

Overall though, it has to be said, fucking props to Runey. Amazing as always and it's just never enough for me...
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Just like you said Runey set the bar so high with this game that we all have very high expectation with it. Runey added atleast 2-3 events per character in the last update (v0.10). Now after months waiting when I returned to this game, It seriously felt like a loose update. Yeah storywise it developed well in this update but content wise definitely not. I mean the events basically finished so fast that I wrapped everything up in just half an hour or something. There's no memorable scenes that I can say about this update except Lucy one (That scene was damn hot ngl).

I subsequently also following Mythic manor. The last time both of them get an update about same time(Back in june). Then MM updated twice while HH only once after that. And to say each MM updates were equal to this update of HH content wise.

Hope for the best.
 
Assassini

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Runey said:
I can definitely understand. Did you take into account that you could skip most of Kali's history lesson at uni? (meaning, would it still be too much lore for you even if you skipped that part?)
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Indeed, even taking that into account, it seemed like there was a lot of much longer, exposition-heavy scenes than have been present until now. For example, the museum bit directly following on from elf-land and then also there were a few other scenes with a lot of individual back-story for the different girls. It was basically just quite a lot...

Also, for the record, with the history lesson bit, I actually chose the option to listen to it but then skipped through most of the dialogue, which I did in case there would be any additional exciting mini-scene or stat boost from doing so. And I reckon I might not have been alone in playing it like that.

Runey said:
She was using a virtual dress up mirror, that's what Juliet called it. It's future tech. Kali can't change her hair like magic haha
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Oh... That must have completely went over my head. Fair enough! :LOL:

Another example though that I remember off the top of my head: when you choose the option to have Kali sleep in your bed, she wakes up wearing different clothes than she has when she gets into bed.

Like I say, minor, but I'm confident there were one or two other small examples like that.

Runey said:
Android was absolutely being reckless here, and MC sorta went along because he got to see some titties, until Kali gets his mind out of the gutter, I felt like that was in line for MC. But you're right, MC needs to be more aggressive going forward when it comes to taming Android. That seems like the next logical step to me. I wanted to show off her going a little crazy with her newfound power, and I think I achieved that. Now MC needs to make her understand "with great power, comes great responsibility" right? ;)
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That does make sense and honestly I figured it was the direction the story was going. It's probably just a bit frustrating because you have that whole scene, plus the scene at Kali's dad's party back-to-back, and so at this point I was starting to think she was basically getting a bit out-of-control!

I actually thought I'd mention as a technical side-note here: that scene at Kali's Uni, it actually happened for me before I then saw the scenes with Kali's first day and "meeting" the characters who the Android messes with. Just in case that isn't supposed to happen... It was a bit confusing when I played the Android's thing and a few of the class characters reacted like we'd met before.

Again though: cheers for making the game Runey. Smashing work as per.
 
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Assassini said:
Another example though that I remember off the top of my head: when you choose the option to have Kali sleep in your bed, she wakes up wearing different clothes than she has when she gets into bed.

Like I say, minor, but I'm confident there were one or two other small examples like that.
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She wears the same thing, the strap is on her shoulder, just hard to see.


 
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another bit that has me confused... was Ashley telling the truth, or was she lying when she told the sad story about her life? if she was telling the truth, it made absolutely no sense when her mother came to the hotel to try and force her to go home, as in her story she was kicked out when she was 18

also, have been trying to *talk* to Felicity & Emma, but it keeps saying I need to raise my friendship with Ashley.... how high, I brought her friendship to 30 and it still says I need to raise her friendship first
 
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