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Sadly I was too late to vote, but for the record... ;)
1) Anyone but Ashley.
2) All of the above.
3) All of the above.
4) I am not fond of blondes, and I can't stand lolis. Boobs that are too big are also not my favorite.
5) All of the above.
6) I don't like Type A Tsundere, and Yandere tend to go overboard. Basically I don't like being threatened, it is a real turn off.

I can deal with some traits I don't like if they have enough other good ones that I do like. For example, I am not fond of tiny breasts, but Lin is adorable in almost every other way, Ann is not bad, even if she is a bit 'curvier' than I prefer and blond, but she is kind and caring, and I feel for her situation, I want her to be loved.

I missed a few updates, so I ended up doing things in a different order than I suppose you expected, and I noticed a few things that I thought might be worth pointing out.
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I am not the developer, but I have two pieces of advice. First, perhaps try again in a few days, or maybe you need to raise some of her other stats or even perhaps buy her an outfit. The other is that it's rude to shout like that.
Firstly, I hope you give Ashley another chance. You may begin to like her beginning in v0.6, and possibly even more in v0.7.

Things aren't necessarily tied to Ashley's story, but the characters are, sort of. For instance, for Maria to join, you have to do Ashley's story. For you to continue Ashley and Maria's story, you have to get them both to a certain friendship to continue the story.

At one point, certain sex actions did increase affection. I removed that due to balancing. There is also a difference between someone being a slut, and someone being your slut. I don't want to date any slutty girls, but if a girl were to be slutty for me, and only me? I'd like to get down and dirty with her.

Maria's bug has been fixed. She also doesn't say the tip things (all I've noticed anyway).

I will also change afternoon to evening. I think that sounds better.

As for all the other things you've mentioned... Egh, listen, no game will be perfect, and I do understand people will find problems, no matter how small the problems are... But those are some very niche problems. I don't really want to go back and redo the story for the 2% of people who finished the Twin's story before they started Ashley's, it's just work I could allocate into a new event. I think it's fairly obvious to a player that you're supposed to play through Ashley's story, and if you don't want to, that's fine. But you should expect a little bit of inconsistency if you skip things.

The shower stuff with Emma obviously haven't been touched on yet, as well as Felicity. I just added those shower scenes, you know? The game is far from being done, and far from being fully polished. I will go back to the earlier points of the game and remake, or even add new things, like new story in between story. The story you play right now may be entirely different in v0.21 for example. Right now, Kali asks for Sex soon after you have a blowjob from her, like within days. I'm obviously (to me anyway) going to add events in between those two. I wouldn't expect you to expect that from me though, typically devs don't care about the earlier parts of their games, so your worries are justified.

edit: for example, you'll be able to purchase the bar as soon as you have the money to do so. The bar could be considered an early game addition if you have the funds.
 

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Agreed, man :unsure:
Having to choose between Felicity-Emma and Kali-Lucia, eventhough Lucia isn't a canon is so damn difficult


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I think you're misunderstanding what canon is. Canon means not real, or not true to the story. Lucia is aboslutely apart of the story, whereas Violet isn't. I think you're meaning Lucia isn't a main character, which is true.
 
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My advice is to relax, and turn off caps lock

What's Android's friendship?
sorry for caps,,. i attach a pic. of android stat.. and also try to add ".save file" .. so you can check others stats. also..

I am not the developer, but I have two pieces of advice. First, perhaps try again in a few days, or maybe you need to raise some of her other stats or even perhaps buy her an outfit. The other is that it's rude to shout like that.
bro i already try that , more than a week..

thanks to both of you for reply...
 

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sorry for caps,,. i attach a pic. of android stat.. and also try to add ".save file" .. so you can check others stats. also..



bro i already try that , more than a week..

thanks to both of you for reply...
You cheated Android's friendship. 25 friendship is impossible.

Turn it back to whatever it was before, story is based off of specific friendship points. You wont get another event until like v0.8 or v0.9
 

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I think you're misunderstanding what canon is. Canon means not real, or not true to the story. Lucia is aboslutely apart of the story, whereas Violet isn't. I think you're meaning Lucia isn't a main character, which is true.
Welps, u're right, i was mistaken the canon with main character :LOL:
Didn't use that word really often, I guess I should never skip my english class
 
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Agreed, man :unsure:
Having to choose between Felicity-Emma and Kali-Lucia, eventhough Lucia isn't a canon is so damn difficult


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With Felicity and Emma, for me it's easy, Emma is the girlfriend/wife material, and Felicity is our pet kitty. :devilish:
I did not realize Lucy was not canon, that's disappointing, the two of them in a 3-way would be fun, screwing one while the other watches is fun, and just watching them banter is fun. She is like an alternate reality version of Kali, just adorable. And her I was hoping to give her the last empty room and start repairing the next floor, though the two of them sleeping together while I watch on the camera is fun too. :LOL:

Kali I love, she was a good example of a tsundere done well.

Firstly, I hope you give Ashley another chance. You may begin to like her beginning in v0.6, and possibly even more in v0.7.

Things aren't necessarily tied to Ashley's story, but the characters are, sort of. For instance, for Maria to join, you have to do Ashley's story. For you to continue Ashley and Maria's story, you have to get them both to a certain friendship to continue the story.

At one point, certain sex actions did increase affection. I removed that due to balancing. There is also a difference between someone being a slut, and someone being your slut. I don't want to date any slutty girls, but if a girl were to be slutty for me, and only me? I'd like to get down and dirty with her.

Maria's bug has been fixed. She also doesn't say the tip things (all I've noticed anyway).

I will also change afternoon to evening. I think that sounds better.

As for all the other things you've mentioned... Egh, listen, no game will be perfect, and I do understand people will find problems, no matter how small the problems are... But those are some very niche problems. I don't really want to go back and redo the story for the 2% of people who finished the Twin's story before they started Ashley's, it's just work I could allocate into a new event. I think it's fairly obviously to a player that you're supposed to play through Ashley's story, and if you don't want to, that's fine. But you should expect a little bit of inconsistency if you skip things.

The shower stuff with Emma obviously haven't been touched on yet, as well as Felicity. I just added those shower scenes, you know? The game is far from being done, and far from being fully polished. I will go back to the earlier points of the game and remake, or even add new things, like new story in between story. The story you play right now may be entirely different in v0.21 for example. Right now, Kali asks for Sex soon after you have a blowjob from her, like within days. I'm obviously (to me anyway) going to add events in between those two. I wouldn't expect you to expect that from me though, typically devs don't care about the earlier parts of their games, so your worries are justified.
With Ashley, it's hard, I am trying, but almost every trait she has is one that tics off a cringy 'nope' in my book, she displays almost every pet peeve I have. Maybe if she goes back to her natural hair color (or anything else) and starts being a decent person, but that is about the only way I can reconsider her as someone I want to be around. If the option were there, I would have called the cops on her and kicked her out a long time ago. Rape, assault and possibly battery, death threats, breaking and entering, etc... Maybe some of that isn't a crime in this world, but I figure if raping an elf slave against her will is a crime, then doing it to the player should be too.
I do plan to do her story, I am trying to keep her affection low, and her slut and exhibition high, to treat her as badly as she treated me and others, though it is a challenge since many events are tied to her affection score, when it might feel more natural to have it to slut, exhibition, or 'friendship'.

Maria's story is tied to hers pretty strongly in a few places as you said, and with the Twins, it either should be, or it ought to have a variation in the dialogue for if the player has already started a relationship with them. It's disconcerting to have them act as if they don't know you, when they both have the love trait for you by that point. ;) (see below)

I am not trying to tell you how to do your game, I'm not complaining, I totally understand underdevelopment, just pointing things out and making suggestions, take it for what it's worth, no skin off my nose. I'm not bitching, and I don't think less of you and your work because of any of it. Some of it I expect you to get to, some you may have forgotten, who knows? I was just trying to be helpful, not flame you. ;)

If by balancing, you mean having to continue to grind dates when there are lots of far more interesting things to do, then yeah, it does mess that up, maybe if you got to pick what act was at the end of the date, that would go a long way to making it easier. :rolleyes:;) Not sure what other balancing you could mean there... :p Making it feel less repetitive and grindy is a good thing. Don't do it on the early ones, like Hand Jobs, Blow Jobs, and Boob jobs would be slut only, unless that girl is particularly fond of them, like with Emma it is fulfilling a fantasy of hers. Whereas giving her a screaming orgasm ought to give you both. This is just my opinion, but the others I bounced the idea off of seemed to think it worked as well.

That is my point, in my mind, a girl who has a slut stat higher than her affection stat, would be into taking any cock that comes her way, where the other way around she is a slut only for me. That is why I am trying to keep their affection/obedience score higher than their sluttiness, but it is hard when there are so few actions that raise it, but most others raise sluttiness. It took me week of grinding dates with Kali to get her affection high enough over her sluttiness to grind her anal skill, and I don't like having to disappoint her and avoid sex in a sex game, to keep her liking me enough, if that makes sense. :unsure:

Maybe I forgot playing some stuff, but I loaded my save from several versions back and all of a sudden several new girls all showed up, the twins and the bible beater, so of course I started to work on them. How would I know they were supposed to be after Ashley's story to make sense? By this point I had not finished anyone's stories. I also had no idea the shower scenes with them were that new either, 0.4.3 was the last one I played, and I didn't complete it at the time, the grind had gotten to me and I had needed a break, so came back for this one.

I understand not wanting to go back, going back to old work is hard, I hate reading my old stuff. I was hoping to suggest ways to fix that without too much hassle, but there is never an easy way really.

There is a fine line between a good story with a good build up, and making the player wait forever for the sex scenes too. I agree that BJ to sex is a bit fast, but I have had sex on first dates many times in my life, so... One suggestion I have is that as well as boobjobs, you could add an event of the playing going down on her. The only example I have seen so far is the femdom event with the android, which I am not fond of, why can't we do it just for fun? :LOL:

For Kali, the one that seemed too quick, was the sex in the cafe, while I loved that scene, it just seemed to unlock a bit soon. Maybe it was because I had already ground a lot of points before that in the old version though. Hard to say with out starting over, and I don't have enough time for that right now, sorry to say.

Please, don't think I am complaining, I want you to know that (with one notable exception, and most games have at least one character or thing I don't like) I really am enjoying the game. No game is perfect, since perfection is subjective, and we will never all agree, all we can do is the bet we can, and try to iron out any plot holes there might be. In any non-linear game like this, you have to assume that not everyone is going to do things in the same order that they were released, and having variations for that adds to the replayability of a game. As a writer, editor, or continuity expert, these are things help the story flow better.

Thank you for the game, and again, I really have grown to love it since I got past the beginning.

I think you're misunderstanding what canon is. Canon means not real, or not true to the story. Lucia is aboslutely apart of the story, whereas Violet isn't. I think you're meaning Lucia isn't a main character, which is true.
That is very good news, I had hoped that was the case, she was adorable. I look forward to seeing more of her. :giggle:

...also be interesting to see what became of Sophia from the intro.
 

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With Felicity and Emma, for me it's easy, Emma is the girlfriend/wife material, and Felicity is our pet kitty. :devilish:

With Ashley, it's hard, I am trying, but almost every trait she has is one that tics off a cringy 'nope' in my book, she displays almost every pet peeve I have. Maybe if she goes back to her natural hair color (or anything else) and starts being a decent person, but that is about the only way I can reconsider as someone I want to be around.

...also be interesting to see what became of Sophia from the intro.
Totally agree on this. The Jury is very much out on Ashley with me also. She`s the only one who I have not bothered unlocking all the traits on either.....
ATM if I see her standing in the lobby I leave her there & go see one of the others....
 
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so I've got an issue, I'm on 5.3 and I've carried my saves over from 4.3 but none of the new events are starting.

I've got the latest version tutorial mod installed and it's telling me what to do for the new stuff but none of it is actually triggering.

any suggestions?
 

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so I've got an issue, I'm on 5.3 and I've carried my saves over from 4.3 but none of the new events are starting.

I've got the latest version tutorial mod installed and it's telling me what to do for the new stuff but none of it is actually triggering.

any suggestions?
That's because in 0.5.3 the event system was changed from having a minimum day to trigger events to having a predetermined # of days as a delay between the events that have to pass before they can be triggered. So now you can't do the events immediately one after the other all on the same day/couple of days if you're far into the game. After you do a girl's event try doing the events for other girls or other scenes for a couple of days then try doing the girl's next event.

The mod will be updated to the new system in a few days.

If you want, you could type this in the console and open the console after sleeping or doing events to see which girls have delays and how many days they are.
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show_delay_debug_info = True
 
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can someone help. I can't seem to download the newest version. When I try and unzip the file, it says its incomplete. pls help
on a mac btw
 

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Okay, hear me out, I have come up with a small fan theory. Autumn, the new girl, is so concerned with the elves, not only out of guilt for what her church has done, but also because she is secretly a half-elf! :geek: Dunt dunt duuuuh... :LOL:

I mean, have we ever seen her ears? Remember what Lin said about Half-Elves? It would explain why she is so oversensitive about the elves' freedom, because she knows that if she is found out, she will lose her rights as a human as well, and be treated as 'just another elf'. It also adds another level to her refusal to talk about how the church (and her family in particular IIRC) was involved in the enslavement of the elves, which would be another reason to be oversensitive on the subject. Also, there is why her family moved away from their home, and her even moving away from them in this new place, as if to put as much distance between them and her as they can, while still being able to support her financially and such.

...Or, maybe I have just spent one too many days grinding in this game this week, and I am going even further crazy. :whistle: The world may never know...
 

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Any walkthrough?
There is, you can check my Patreon page.

Totally agree on this. The Jury is very much out on Ashley with me also. She`s the only one who I have not bothered unlocking all the traits on either.....
ATM if I see her standing in the lobby I leave her there & go see one of the others....
I take it this is because you don't like crazy girls?
 

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Any walkthrough?
Just the mod on page one, or the patreon page. But what you need to know is that knocking on the door will have them let you in their room to have access to their grind menu, where you can work on raising their stats and skills. Then there is the talk option, which, when available, will advance their story. Make sure you are ready to do this when you do, as certain stories might want you to have the girl to have certain skills. It can take a while to grind them all up if you put it off, trust me. ;)

I take it this is because you don't like crazy girls?
Oh, I love crazy girls, they are great in bed, I just don't like the 'Fatal Attraction' kind of crazy girls (usually, especially not when they threaten me). :p
 

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I take it this is because you don't like crazy girls?
There is many different types of crazy.
But having known & tried dealing with bi polar friends, she hits a little too close to home at times.

I have to say tho, you did a good job of the writing with her, she`s just never gonna be top of my popularity tree.
 
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@joethebeast Thanks for the review.

Could you tell me which animations exactly you're saying are bad? Some need to be in 3 frames, or just deleted entirely, as they can't be in more frames, but others may be able to get more frames. Either way, I would love to know the list of animations you noticed are bad.

I guess Android's face is fairly subjective... But how could you call this qt ugly :cry:
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In any case, I have no idea where you got "She hides her face because she's ugly" from. In her story, she states she hides her mouth because it's a sexual organ, since she's sort of a sex doll.

How do you mean "The game fails to let you know which scenes you haven't unlocked"? Like, a counter to the story events? It lets you know when you end each characters story as of the current update. Or do you mean other events, like training events? It lists all the training options you have once you begin training. Either way, I am very curious about what your thoughts are on this. Would love to get a more in depth response.
 

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There is many different types of crazy.
But having known & tried dealing with bi polar friends, she hits a little too close to home at times.

I have to say tho, you did a good job of the writing with her, she`s just never gonna be top of my popularity tree.
I am one. I try to save my manic side for when I am either alone, or when I can channel it into my work. Other than coming off sounding mad when I get too excited about things though, the only person I have threatened is myself. :whistle:
@joethebeast Thanks for the review.

Could you tell me which animations exactly you're saying are bad? Some need to be in 3 frames, or just deleted entirely, as they can't be in more frames, but others may be able to get more frames. Either way, I would love to know the list of animations you noticed are bad.

I guess Android's face is fairly subjective... But how could you call this qt ugly :cry:
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In any case, I have no idea where you got "She hides her face because she's ugly" from. In her story, she states she hides her mouth because it's a sexual organ, since she's sort of a sex doll.

How do you mean "The game fails to let you know which scenes you haven't unlocked"? Like, a counter to the story events? It lets you know when you end each characters story as of the current update. Or do you mean other events, like training events? It lists all the training options you have once you begin training. Either way, I am very curious about what your thoughts are on this. Would love to get a more in depth response.
The eyes are a bit too far forward for me, it looks a bit odd, I can't really see that with the mask on. Otherwise, the only thing I find odd is the eyebrow color, but hey it can be anything Granddad made it! :LOL:
Aside from those minor nitpicks, I think she is quite lovely.

While there are always places where the animations could improve (in almost every game), you have to balance it with what is time/cost effective, and compared to most games, I think your animations are quite good. Hair movement is always a good place to add realism, but it's one of the hardest things to do.

While a gallery for the unique events might be nice, since most other events are repeatable, I don't really see a point beyond that.
 
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I am one. I try to save my manic side for when I am either alone, or when I can channel it into my work. Other than coming off sounding mad when I get too excited about things though, the only person I have threatened is myself. :whistle:

The eyes are a bit too far forward for me, it looks a bit odd, I can't really see that with the mask on. Otherwise, the only thing I find odd is the eyebrow color, but hey it can be anything Granddad made it! :LOL:
Aside from those minor nitpicks, I think she is quite lovely.

While there are always places where the animations could improve (in almost every game), you have to balance it with what is time/cost effective, and compared to most games, I think your animations are quite good. Hair movement is always a good place to add realism, but it's one of the hardest things to do.

While a gallery for the unique events might be nice, since most other events are repeatable, I don't really see a point beyond that.
Since development of v0.6 is starting on Monday, I'll be wanting to also work on older animations (as I have done in every update), so specific lists would be great, as there's just so many damn animations to keep track of. I believe Kali's thighjob, Lin and Ashley's shower scenes, and... Hm, that's all I can think of at the moment.
 

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Since development of v0.6 is starting on Monday, I'll be wanting to also work on older animations (as I have done in every update), so specific lists would be great, as there's just so many damn animations to keep track of. I believe Kali's thighjob, Lin and Ashley's shower scenes, and... Hm, that's all I can think of at the moment.
Damn, that was not something I thought to take notes on, sorry. Mostly it is places where the hair or tits might be able to move more (or less if they are like some HS games, though I haven't seen that in yours that I recall, Corruption had it bad), or if the body can be less stiff. If I see anything specific while I am working on it more this weekend, I will try to take note. There was one where the girl was riding a dildo, I think in the utility room, that was amazing, I wish I could remember who it was... The way she was grinding was really nicely done!

One thing, in scenes like Ashley's anal and Felicity's cat walk, it would be nice if their nipples stood out more, to show they were turned on, like many of the others.
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Seeing them excited like that, is a turn on for me. I have no idea how you (and others) have managed to do that with them, I can only get the ones that look almost flat, like this one.
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Slightly different topic, I love it when Lin (or any girl) looks up into our eyes while blowing us, that's always sexy. :love:
 

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Can anyone tell me what I need to do to trigger Android's 15 friendship event? I have already given her all the expansions and am just waiting to give her the two outfits that I can't give her due to a lack of friendship.

Thanks :).
 
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