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DigDug69

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Err not sure what VNs you've played but you are confused, by definition VNs have multiple paths not a set path. You might be thinking of Kinetic novelss which have a set path.
The option of two paths still exists.
Success or failure.
So, yeah, I do know what visual novels are.

On that note, the mods will likely soon be bashing heads in this thread, because they get angry when topics just go back and forth in the comments like this...

I am out, before they start swinging the thread ban hammer.
 

shadowtempered

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Then he learns more about how slavery is done, starts to dislike it all, meets fucking Trello, etc etc.
I honestly would have preferred that from a VN standpoint. I might be remembering incorrectly, so please correct me if I am, in that newer city events (which is what, v16/17?) already portray the slavery aspect of things from the MC's point of view in a negative fashion. In that regards, he doesn't really "learn" and adjust. You could argue it reinforces his beliefs in not liking it, but from a "we've been here since v1 and blah blah blah" it just making changes to the MC (avoiding the whole retconning bullshit argument). This just reinforces that the slavery route options make very little sense. Sure he's buying them to "free" them from bad slavers, but when your option is to keep being a slaver type when everything else says you hate slavery it just doesn't make much sense.

As a newer player, the MC appears to have an opinion on slavery very early on. Albeit, it's brief since the city events are new, then there's a bit of a jump as you progress to the later update storylines.
 

DigDug69

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Just a heads up. Since none of the links would download I tried FILESDP and as it was almost completed my AV blocked the page and quarantined the file.

View attachment 4214318
False positives are actually pretty common with games like these.
And since all of the sites used are also commonly used for pirated software and other less than legal things, some firewalls will try to block them.
 
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Darklord_1965

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False positives are actually pretty common with games like these.
And since all of the sites used are also commonly used for pirated software and other less than legal things, some firewalls will try to block them.
Yup, I'm aware but the AV only blocked the page after scanning the file and placing it in quarantine. I normally download using my Mega account or Gofile as the last time I tried Mediafire it tried installing a crypto mining script (Detection ID: Gen:Variant.Barys.438442).
 

DigDug69

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12gb ahhhh anyone can shrink this to a 1 gb or something xD hahaha im gonna play on phone..
The smallest that anyone has shrunk it down to is about 4Gb's.
By default, uncompressed this game is over 100Gb's in size.

Joiplay was an option to get it to work on android, but recently I have seen more reports of people having issues getting even that to work on android.
 

burned01

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I'm wondering if it's safe to sleep with the girls at night while trying to build the garden now. I guess I'll give it a try.
 

Kakushigoto

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The smallest that anyone has shrunk it down to is about 4Gb's.
By default, uncompressed this game is over 100Gb's in size.

Joiplay was an option to get it to work on android, but recently I have seen more reports of people having issues getting even that to work on android.
No issue at all i played the last update on joyplay
 

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Been awhile since I've played the game. Last time I played the MC still couldn't have sex with Autumn. If that's the case, I guess I will continue to wait and hopefully one day Runi will finally get around to it. Seems like having that part of the game/storyline has been that way since the game started getting made however many years back now. I also kind of gave up on the game with a lot of reworks from earlier events in the game and sometimes no real progression on certain storylines.
 

DigDug69

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Been awhile since I've played the game. Last time I played the MC still couldn't have sex with Autumn. If that's the case, I guess I will continue to wait and hopefully one day Runi will finally get around to it. Seems like having that part of the game/storyline has been that way since the game started getting made however many years back now. I also kind of gave up on the game with a lot of reworks from earlier events in the game and sometimes no real progression on certain storylines.
Happy times with Autumn will likely come later, rather than sooner.
She has a lot of religious hangups to deal with before that will happen.
Since she will be an important character in the coming events.
The back door will likely come a bit sooner, because Maria has taught her all about it, and Autumn already owns anal beads.
Although there is a chance that she has no idea what they are for.
I think they were something her mother owned. (on her night stand next to her bed)
 
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Opa Wants

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Happy times with Autumn will likely come later, rather than sooner.
She has a lot of religious hangups to deal with before that will happen.
Since she will be an important character in the coming events.
The back door will likely come a bit sooner, because Maria has taught her all about it, and Autumn already owns anal beads.
Although there is a chance that she has no idea what they are for.
I think they were something her mother owned. (on her night stand next to her bed)
Religious girls are serious freeaks in the sheets once they get over their hangups.:devilish::ROFLMAO:
 

ZenoMod

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Again, I already said that it's not done because it would deviate from the current path. The main plot currently is freeing elves, doesn't mean it Had to be. That's just the direction that it went in. I understand that you Really like the current path, but there are people that like or want slavery. Having a slavery game doesn't make it just another fapping game. That is, again, the whole point in the first place. With more resources, one could make that option, as the game certainly has enough story to allow for it.
I have to agree on this, at least on theoretical basis.

The very point of a VN over a Kinetic Novel is indeed having different branches. The more those branches differ between each other (even to the extent of being different plots), the more the VN is actually a proper VN and not just a KN with a few bonus minor choices.

Have you ever read the multiple choices books in the Eighties? (Yeah... I'm that old...)

Currently HH is a tree with just a trunk and no actual branching.

Realistically/pragmatically, I guess that it will always be like that, because writing a new plot with a slabery MC would be an effort as big as writing what has been written til now...

... but, precisely, it's just a matter of _resources_ (both of famtasy of the author and of bandwidth and HD space), not a theoretical limit.

A work of function doesn't need to be ethical.
It could be branched into an ethical branch and an ethical one. It would require two different polts? Yes. Is it a problem? No, it would be an added value.

I know. Not gonna happen. But for practical reasons, not for narrative principles.
 

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I got some problem. When i try to hit escape key or right click menu dont show instead it hide UI. How can I back to normal keys, also there is a button left corner that insta throws me outside in the town and it messes with scenes???
 

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I have to agree on this, at least on theoretical basis.

The very point of a VN over a Kinetic Novel is indeed having different branches. The more those branches differ between each other (even to the extent of being different plots), the more the VN is actually a proper VN and not just a KN with a few bonus minor choices.

Have you ever read the multiple choices books in the Eighties? (Yeah... I'm that old...)

Currently HH is a tree with just a trunk and no actual branching.

Realistically/pragmatically, I guess that it will always be like that, because writing a new plot with a slabery MC would be an effort as big as writing what has been written til now...

... but, precisely, it's just a matter of _resources_ (both of famtasy of the author and of bandwidth and HD space), not a theoretical limit.

A work of function doesn't need to be ethical.
It could be branched into an ethical branch and an ethical one. It would require two different polts? Yes. Is it a problem? No, it would be an added value.

I know. Not gonna happen. But for practical reasons, not for narrative principles.
I agree with you and most VNs here are among: do I go first for story a and then b, do I want either LI A, B or both - so overall either choice that omit some story elements already in the game, minor things or flavors.

Having "real" "big" choice in a game leads to either having only a few choice (eg. choices going for endings 1, 2, 3) or it makes the game a "nightmare" or very short.
As Harem Hotel is already a big game, I doubt that anything other than minor or flavors choice will be in it, simple cause otherwise the scope and size of the game would be much much bigger.

Eg. for the whole slave no slave, that at least are 2 big choice and could, if wanted end with a lot of difference scene and I guess 50% more game size if both paths were equal. Adding "good" slaver, "bad" slave and on the other site "true" freedom fighter and "turncoat" freedom fighter, with a lot of choice, unique paths, paths crossing, unique scene and reactions from all the NPC, would make the game big and bigger.
And although such a game is interesting and is more realistic than "choice a for path a, choice b for path b" it is often so, that you invest a lot of resource for a path only a handful of people will see at the end of the day (because it is to specific to a route...).

Therefore, I doubt that Harem Hotel will include more path than it already has.
 

ZenoMod

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I agree with you and most VNs here are among: do I go first for story a and then b, do I want either LI A, B or both - so overall either choice that omit some story elements already in the game, minor things or flavors.

Having "real" "big" choice in a game leads to either having only a few choice (eg. choices going for endings 1, 2, 3) or it makes the game a "nightmare" or very short.
As Harem Hotel is already a big game, I doubt that anything other than minor or flavors choice will be in it, simple cause otherwise the scope and size of the game would be much much bigger.

Eg. for the whole slave no slave, that at least are 2 big choice and could, if wanted end with a lot of difference scene and I guess 50% more game size if both paths were equal. Adding "good" slaver, "bad" slave and on the other site "true" freedom fighter and "turncoat" freedom fighter, with a lot of choice, unique paths, paths crossing, unique scene and reactions from all the NPC, would make the game big and bigger.
And although such a game is interesting and is more realistic than "choice a for path a, choice b for path b" it is often so, that you invest a lot of resource for a path only a handful of people will see at the end of the day (because it is to specific to a route...).

Therefore, I doubt that Harem Hotel will include more path than it already has.
Totally agree.

It's a matter of resources.

It would be hard to do it for practical reasons.
Probably it won't be done.
 

TheDevian

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I got some problem. When i try to hit escape key or right click menu dont show instead it hide UI. How can I back to normal keys, also there is a button left corner that insta throws me outside in the town and it messes with scenes???
Can't say I have heard of that one, have you tried restarting the game?
 
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