TheDevian

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But if he looses his job than how is he going to write history to ensure he gets remembered as a "good" leader?
While that depends on various things, but generally speaking, yes. History tends to remember the people who sacrifice for the greater good. They may not be considered a 'good politician', but a good leader, more likely than not, at least once people can look back on it honestly and leave their biases out of it. Not to mention the old excuse "I just just following orders" is one of the worse excuses there is to history...

While 'history is written by the winner', we tend to discover the truth ...eventually. I could give some real world examples, but real world politics is not really an acceptable topic here.
I don t know wath kind of government is in place in HH world but i suspect some kind of democracy and for doing the right thing you need to have the power and the consesus to do so or someone more complaint to the idea of its peolpe can step in your shoes.
He is not actively try to put fuel on the fire of the slavery but instead subtract it, is the sistem of retrograde belief of the people of his nation to blame for it, blame him its plain stupid expecially because its one of the most influent people of his time and seems openly to consider the MC take on things.
Not all democracies require a majority of the population to vote on every piece of legislation, and not every rule is put in place the same way. Some laws/rules are implemented by voting (usually local, and even those can be ignored by the higher ups), some are voted in by the representatives who are voted for, but they are then free to "vote their conscience" (assuming they have one), and others can be put in place by non elected/appointed positions such as the head of a department (which is where Cornwall falls) or a judge (some judges are elected, others are appointed).

A judge or appointed department head can make huge changes to the laws we have or how they are interpreted, far more than many elected politicians.
 

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to my recollection all the type in answers are one letter responses but id have to tell you to use the search function to get them as i dont remember most of them at this point
This is not an answer to a riddle, this is when you have finished all of her riddles, you speak to her and are given a type prompt with no suggestion what goes in it.
 
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This is not an answer to a riddle, this is when you have finished all of her riddles, you speak to her and are given a type prompt with no suggestion what goes in it.
Yes, and it is the 5th 'hidden riddle', which is based on the other 4.

Think about the answers to the other 4 'letter' riddles'...

Then think about them in reverse...

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Leobbb

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save with slave route?
If you mean the slave route for the two proud sanctuary elves then most of the training events are not repeatable, you can only get repeatable bjs, you would need a save before training. If you are in the love route and want to try slave you can "resetelves" on your pc, but note that you will be back to the point you have to build sanctuary again so better have some spare cash or cheat to get it.
 

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If you mean the slave route for the two proud sanctuary elves then most of the training events are not repeatable, you can only get repeatable bjs, you would need a save before training. If you are in the love route and want to try slave you can "resetelves" on your pc, but note that you will be back to the point you have to build sanctuary again so better have some spare cash or cheat to get it.
Thank you, I didn’t know.
 

Runey

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I can come another day, she sits at her table and I can talk to her.
But the event itself is not triggered.

Damn it, looks like a bug.
Yep, same thing
There is a very specific bug that happens when you had Kali's friendship at level 13 during v0.11, then updated to v0.12. Because her events were reshuffled, that messed things up.
 
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Two new polls!

Who are your favorite main characters? >

Who are your favorite side characters? >

Top 3? Top 5? Tell me why :)
Main, I chose Kali, Lin, Maria, and Autumn.
Kali and Lin are really close, nearly tied, but Kali has a small lead, due to her complementing the real me more than almost anyone, nearly perfect in every way. XD
Lin is just awesome, and she gets better all the time. I love her, her personality, her dedication, her story, and almost everything about her.
Maria has always been a favorite, and I just want to protect her even more now.
I added Autumn in as a 4th, in part due to her story starting to get interesting, she is going to be really fun to corrupt, and I :love: redheads.

The side girls is harder to limit, since there are so many great ones.

I chose Moon, Luci, Kate, Juliet, and Qiya...
I really love those first 4, and I want to see more of them and the desert elves...

That said, I also and enjoying the content with Jia, and the college girls, and want more of them.

Nidra is really hot, but her racism is a big turnoff. XD

And, of course, I wanted to vote for Hazel too, because ...redhead, but only so much one voter can do... XD
 

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Two new polls!

Who are your favorite main characters? >

Who are your favorite side characters? >

Top 3? Top 5? Tell me why :)
My top 5 favorite main girls are Lin, Ashley, Kali, Android, and Maria:
  • I immediately fell in love with Lin and Ashley.
  • Since the beginning of the game, I think Lin and Ashley grew the fastest out of the main characters.
    • You can see the difference from how they act when you first met them to the end of the current version, they’re more confident.
  • Kali: I see a lot of myself in her as well as Ashley.
    • She is stubborn, collected, unsure about herself, distant at first, and very smart.
  • Ashley: As I said before, I immediately fell in love with you.
    • As the story progressed, I learned more about her backstory and the hardships she had to endure.
    • The secret beach scene where we were able to have a 1-on-1 conversation with her, was probably one of my fondest memories of the game so far.
As for the side girls, I liked a lot of them. With that said, my top 5 favorites are Moon, Lucia, Kate, Nia, and Hana.
 
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Two new polls!

Who are your favorite main characters? >

Who are your favorite side characters? >

Top 3? Top 5? Tell me why :)
I play games like this pragmatically as an opportunist.

Kali is #1 Waifu because of the political and material advantages she brings with her family. Plus, she is the only human that submits to being humiliated in public even more than Maria did during her eCam days. And having little sister Lucy as a side-dish with no real ambition except being a Trophy Slut suits the original premise of the game.

Lin is #2 because of her ties to everyone in the Hotel. And she's grown more confident in her abilities like cooking, enough to be obeyed by the Android and mediate the Twins.

Maria #3 is the "Miss Congeniality" of the residence, and equivalent to the MC in making friends and influencing people.

The Android #4 (for better or worse) has that hidden edge to her. She loves and obeys the MC by way of his Grandfather/Creator, but has developed the Angst of Self-Awareness and becomes unpredictable. (If anyone knows of the 1974 movie "Dark Star" by John Carpenter, remember the bomb?)

Autumn #5. The posts about her are becoming more favorable as her story-line develops and we realize the part she and her religious beliefs tie into the whole story. (But c'mon Runey, she's on the list as a future bedmate, and I've talked a few girls into believing that Anal sex still preserves their virginity! ;)
 
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So saying the process for making the patch from 0.11.2 to 0.12 (Runey original PC version) was a pain in the arse would be an understatement. First I encounter an error with my script and then I need to have a word with my PC. It was a long time ago since I saw my lastest bluescreen.

Other than that, here you go.
I encountered an error while trying to update Harem Hotel from 0.11.2 to 0.12
here's the log:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
ScriptError: Name (u'game/animations_and_flags.rpy', 1547521970, 1) is defined twice, at game/animations_and_flags.rpyc:3 and game/scripts/animations_and_flags.rpyc:3.


I don't want to bother you so if it's a pain in the ass to fix this error then just say so and I'm going to download full ver. 0.12 instead of trying to update Harem Hotel from 0.11.2.
 

Culocane

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While that depends on various things, but generally speaking, yes. History tends to remember the people who sacrifice for the greater good. They may not be considered a 'good politician', but a good leader, more likely than not, at least once people can look back on it honestly and leave their biases out of it. Not to mention the old excuse "I just just following orders" is one of the worse excuses there is to history...

While 'history is written by the winner', we tend to discover the truth ...eventually. I could give some real world examples, but real world politics is not really an acceptable topic here.

Not all democracies require a majority of the population to vote on every piece of legislation, and not every rule is put in place the same way. Some laws/rules are implemented by voting (usually local, and even those can be ignored by the higher ups), some are voted in by the representatives who are voted for, but they are then free to "vote their conscience" (assuming they have one), and others can be put in place by non elected/appointed positions such as the head of a department (which is where Cornwall falls) or a judge (some judges are elected, others are appointed).

A judge or appointed department head can make huge changes to the laws we have or how they are interpreted, far more than many elected politicians.
Personally i don t know how laws are emanated in the HH setting or how much power or discretionality the position that Cornwall hold have, but is fairly assume that not all the power are in the hand of Cornwall itself but that he need the support of a political force of some kind and if his ideas were to be too radical or progressist he will never have the support to be in a role of power considering the setting in wich the elves are seen by the majority of his nation like a strange kind of intelligent beasts too stupid to learn many things and without souls at the eyes of the church of HH' s world, so considered evolutionary and morally inferior, exactly like it was many century ago in the real world in the slave trade market.
Cornwall is still a leader of a conservative force and while his first concern is the economic and social stability of his society but he has a progessist take on the slaves condition not a reactionary one or at least seems to me, considering that in real world till the abolition of the slavery many slaves where considered just a property without any kind of rights, giving basic rights to someone is a huge step in the direction of recognize someone as an human being.
Basically i think he is trying to go in the direction of elves rights step by step in a slow but democratic way trying to do so without causing instability chaos and bloodshed, also the not inclusion in the Act of the halfelves it s caused by the same fears, a too repentine subversion of social and economic sistem will cause in his eyes instability of everykind.
 

Runey

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I encountered an error while trying to update Harem Hotel from 0.11.2 to 0.12
here's the log:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
ScriptError: Name (u'game/animations_and_flags.rpy', 1547521970, 1) is defined twice, at game/animations_and_flags.rpyc:3 and game/scripts/animations_and_flags.rpyc:3.


I don't want to bother you so if it's a pain in the ass to fix this error then just say so and I'm going to download full ver. 0.12 instead of trying to update Harem Hotel from 0.11.2.
Don't mess with the files on PC. Simply download, install, launch, and load your save. They transfer automatically.
 
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I encountered an error while trying to update Harem Hotel from 0.11.2 to 0.12
here's the log:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
ScriptError: Name (u'game/animations_and_flags.rpy', 1547521970, 1) is defined twice, at game/animations_and_flags.rpyc:3 and game/scripts/animations_and_flags.rpyc:3.


I don't want to bother you so if it's a pain in the ass to fix this error then just say so and I'm going to download full ver. 0.12 instead of trying to update Harem Hotel from 0.11.2.
Happens, when their is two instance. In this case game/animations_and_flags.rpyc and game/scripts/animations_and_flags.rpyc.
So, do have delete the files listed in the del_files.txt?

Also thanks, you found a small bug in my script.

As for all, the README.txt was false generated and didn't have should ben this:
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Personally i don t know how laws are emanated in the HH setting or how much power or discretionality the position that Cornwall hold have, but is fairly assume that not all the power are in the hand of Cornwall itself but that he need the support of a political force of some kind and if his ideas were to be too radical or progressist he will never have the support to be in a role of power considering the setting in wich the elves are seen by the majority of his nation like a strange kind of intelligent beasts too stupid to learn many things and without souls at the eyes of the church of HH' s world, so considered evolutionary and morally inferior, exactly like it was many century ago in the real world in the slave trade market.
Cornwall is still a leader of a conservative force and while his first concern is the economic and social stability of his society but he has a progessist take on the slaves condition not a reactionary one or at least seems to me, considering that in real world till the abolition of the slavery many slaves where considered just a property without any kind of rights, giving basic rights to someone is a huge step in the direction of recognize someone as an human being.
Basically i think he is trying to go in the direction of elves rights step by step in a slow but democratic way trying to do so without causing instability chaos and bloodshed, also the not inclusion in the Act of the halfelves it s caused by the same fears, a too repentine subversion of social and economic sistem will cause in his eyes instability of everykind.
I don't want to explain his motivations too much since it hasn't been explained in game too well yet, but he is a populist. The most important example of this is his new line in his remade introduction "I want what you want".

Some of his ideas, like giving a crumb of equality to elves is considered progressive to us because we consider slavery to be bad. In his eyes, this may not be the case.

Corpus is also leading what some would consider a heretical sect in Gaius' religion. Believing elves to be equal in many respects. He's been very successful at this and even earned a spot on Cornwall's team. Cornwall sees this and takes advantage of this shift in society's moral compass, becoming Minister of Elves. Which is a seat that's democratically elected every 5 years without limit.

This policy along with ignoring half elves has had dramatic effects in the economy. Elves become more expensive to buy and much more expensive to own. Half Elves become the go-to slave because the upkeep is... well, up to you.
 
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