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You don't know, maybe she is a secret sub, but either way, we are talking about a short term, temp thing, vs. a lifetime of abuse and slavery. The nurse and her people we brutal and violent, this is just humiliating.

Besides, just from looking at that scene, there is nothing that would show anyone that Maria is anything less than human there. She passed her whole life, there is no reason anyone would think otherwise, unless they saw her test.

Even if the kinky fun is only on Maria and our side, it is still nothing even close to slavery, even if blackmail is bad.

No, if it is not okay for Maria, then it is not okay for the player, or anyone else. If ANYone should be getting revenge (or others she abused), it is her, not us. She is the one who was hurt, not us. She is the one who deserves the payback, not us.

Who says she didn't ask? Looks like she is having fun to me. hehe

I say every single elf that she abused should get a chance at her.
But again, she would be submitting to a known elf slave, not a good look on the pro-slavery side, even as the owner of the elf slave in question, owners and humans are supposed to be on top. I also never said it would be long term abuse, which is what Maria would have suffered had Ellen not been on the ball in the aftermath of the DNA test. I am not an expert in torture, but death by a thousand cuts, and I do mean literally a thousand, can actually go by fairly quickly if the victim's body can't take the full thousand before succumbing.

Unfortunately, she became a slave within the system and I doubt her lack of obvious elven features will save her. The only thing keeping her from a terrible fate is that Ellen got to her first, so she's technically been claimed. With a system like this, they have got to be registered in order to keep track of slave vs non-slave elves, the latter being ones who don't hit the minimum level of DNA, and what slave elves are owned. They probably have her information in a database somewhere considering they seized her assets and that database probably has images of each elf for identification purposes.

Which is why I say death by a thousand cuts instead of making them submit to Maria maybe once. They deserve something equal or greater than the suffering Maria went through.

It isn't okay and I'm not justifying it as such, revenge never is okay. What I said here was that the MC should do it so Maria doesn't have to dirty her hands and possibly traumatize herself in the process if the task proves too much for her after she has gone through with it. The absolute last thing I want to do is break the poor girl, but the other two are a completely different story. I would love to do way worse on those two. I also specifically said that she should still be the one to do it if she actually asks to, I specifically left open the possibility that she could do it herself if she shows desire to do so. If not, she should not be made to do it, but those two can't get off with nothing.

I didn't say she didn't ask, I said if she doesn't ask to carry out the sentence I proposed, death by a thousand cuts making sure to keep each alive and conscious as long as possible, then she should not be made to do it. If she asks, she gets to do it, no questions asked, as she is the most deserving of anyone in the hotel to carry it out. However, if she proves unwilling to carry out this revenge, then she should not have to and another should take her place, the MC being the next most deserving candidate since he was right there when she was enslaved.

I absolutely agree with that last part, any who are willing should be able to come in and carry out their share of the cuts themselves, any who are not should have theirs carried out by a willing proxy, but under absolutely no circumstances should it be either the elf in question does it or those cuts get skipped. ALL cuts should be carried out even if a human or non-abused elf proxy has to do it in their stead. It would be kind of scummy, but the MC could even charge a fee for each elf to carry it out themselves and/or for spectators of any race to watch, that might make a nice bit of money.

Hey, little fiddle,
That cat I will diddle...
Right after I spank her full moon.

A little minx laughed
To see such sport,
And her hand, reached right down to her poon.
Nice, that got a bit of a laugh out of me, I wasn't expecting that.

hi I only have 2questions does anyone know ( Harem Hotel )

1>)Can you add more change skin this game ?
2.) ow can we change skin color in male domination , male protagonist

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1. No, Runey would have to do this and that gets tedious real fast.
2. You can't until Runey adds it IF he does.

This game has no customization as far as character appearance, not counting the android scenes with her modules, I mean things you can decide outside of temporary scene changes.

There is no way in game to change skin color.
The only way to do it is to extract all of the images and edit them using your favorite image editing software, and then replace them in the game files.
Which would only take a few months to do.
Or to get the character cards and plug those into the corresponding Illusion character editor, which is not doable when Runey doesn't give out the cards. This method would not take as long, but again, no cards to do it with, you would have to create new ones based on in game images from Harem Hotel.


Which would be just long enough for Runey to put out a new update. In which case, there's the distinct likelihood of even more images to edit.
Not even, at the lengths of time image editing can take, it would be a near certainty.

Exactly, but as a bonus, you will become very good at editing skin tone in pictures.
Which unfortunately would make you want to go back and redo many of the earlier images that you had already done, before you got so good at it.
And by the time that you got those done, Runey would have released yet another update with more images that you would need to edit the skin tone on.
A very good skill to have, you could even put that on a resume, just don't say you learned it editing a porn game, I can already see the either shocked or disappointed face of the person doing the interview.

Playing an F95 game for the PLOT!?!?!?!?
You are truly demented. :p
Hey, some of those are pretty good, like this one and Lessons in Love. :p

you have no idea

i like hand holding too
*gasp* You monster, that's too lewd for these poor girls. :p

Yeah, we are a bunch of sick perverts around here, huh?
Someone has to be, or the games would get boring.
I'm not afraid to admit it, either. :p

:LOL:

We just wanted to feel loved.
Nothing wrong with that.

We are a lot like Ann that way... :sneaky:
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But again, she would be submitting to a known elf slave, not a good look on the pro-slavery side, even as the owner of the elf slave in question, owners and humans are supposed to be on top. I also never said it would be long term abuse, which is what Maria would have suffered had Ellen not been on the ball in the aftermath of the DNA test. I am not an expert in torture, but death by a thousand cuts, and I do mean literally a thousand, can actually go by fairly quickly if the victim's body can't take the full thousand before succumbing.

Unfortunately, she became a slave within the system and I doubt her lack of obvious elven features will save her. The only thing keeping her from a terrible fate is that Ellen got to her first, so she's technically been claimed. With a system like this, they have got to be registered in order to keep track of slave vs non-slave elves, the latter being ones who don't hit the minimum level of DNA, and what slave elves are owned. They probably have her information in a database somewhere considering they seized her assets and that database probably has images of each elf for identification purposes.

Which is why I say death by a thousand cuts instead of making them submit to Maria maybe once. They deserve something equal or greater than the suffering Maria went through.

It isn't okay and I'm not justifying it as such, revenge never is okay. What I said here was that the MC should do it so Maria doesn't have to dirty her hands and possibly traumatize herself in the process if the task proves too much for her after she has gone through with it. The absolute last thing I want to do is break the poor girl, but the other two are a completely different story. I would love to do way worse on those two. I also specifically said that she should still be the one to do it if she actually asks to, I specifically left open the possibility that she could do it herself if she shows desire to do so. If not, she should not be made to do it, but those two can't get off with nothing.

I didn't say she didn't ask, I said if she doesn't ask to carry out the sentence I proposed, death by a thousand cuts making sure to keep each alive and conscious as long as possible, then she should not be made to do it. If she asks, she gets to do it, no questions asked, as she is the most deserving of anyone in the hotel to carry it out. However, if she proves unwilling to carry out this revenge, then she should not have to and another should take her place, the MC being the next most deserving candidate since he was right there when she was enslaved.

I absolutely agree with that last part, any who are willing should be able to come in and carry out their share of the cuts themselves, any who are not should have theirs carried out by a willing proxy, but under absolutely no circumstances should it be either the elf in question does it or those cuts get skipped. ALL cuts should be carried out even if a human or non-abused elf proxy has to do it in their stead. It would be kind of scummy, but the MC could even charge a fee for each elf to carry it out themselves and/or for spectators of any race to watch, that might make a nice bit of money.


Nice, that got a bit of a laugh out of me, I wasn't expecting that.


1. No, Runey would have to do this and that gets tedious real fast.
2. You can't until Runey adds it IF he does.

This game has no customization as far as character appearance, not counting the android scenes with her modules, I mean things you can decide outside of temporary scene changes.


Or to get the character cards and plug those into the corresponding Illusion character editor, which is not doable when Runey doesn't give out the cards. This method would not take as long, but again, no cards to do it with, you would have to create new ones based on in game images from Harem Hotel.



Not even, at the lengths of time image editing can take, it would be a near certainty.


A very good skill to have, you could even put that on a resume, just don't say you learned it editing a porn game, I can already see the either shocked or disappointed face of the person doing the interview.


Hey, some of those are pretty good, like this one and Lessons in Love. :p


*gasp* You monster, that's too lewd for these poor girls. :p



I'm not afraid to admit it, either. :p


Nothing wrong with that.


Indeed
Known to her, yes, but not publicly. Most people would have no idea. Without the ears or the collar, no one would have any reason to question it.

Legally speaking, she is a half elf, but no one is going to know that, unless they look at her papers. If the bitch doesn't shout about it as they are going, then no one would be the wiser.

Who says you can't do both? I am just thought it was a fun idea. It's a meme after all. I just think Maria should get to do whatever she wants first, before anyone does anything. hehe

Glad you enjoyed it. ;)
 
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It would be a good twist if that nurse who did the DNA tests had hers done and turned out to be more elf than Maria was, and the nurse was purchased and given to Maria.
When Lin and the bot rule the world, she could be set free.
 
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Known to her, yes, but not publicly. Most people would have no idea. Without the ears or the collar, no one would have any reason to question it.

Legally speaking, she is a half elf, but no one is going to know that, unless they look at her papers. If the bitch doesn't shout about it as they are going, then no one would be the wiser.

Who says you can't do both? I am just thought it was a fun idea. It's a meme after all. I just think Maria should get to do whatever she wants first, before anyone does anything. hehe

Glad you enjoyed it. ;)
As I said, she was enslaved, which I am sure means she's registered in some government system where she can be identified in case, for example, she somehow escapes her current owner. This system would mean she can be identified as an enslaved elf without looking at her physical appearance.

The papers are what I am referring to, they may be available publicly and I don't think people like the nurse and especially Cornwall would be willing to risk being found out if these papers are accessible.

It would be a fun idea, but we would have to force them into it if they choose not to risk the above and that would make us no better than them. I'd say get the revenge over with, a thousand cuts per elf they each wronged, obviously not combined on both, just each getting the ones they individually earned. For added effect, make whoever goes second watch the first.

It would be a good twist if that nurse who did the DNA tests had hers done and turned out to be more elf than Maria was, and the nurse was pirchased and given to Maria.
When Lin and the bot rule the world, she could be set free.
Ah yes, karma, that would indeed be brilliant. Then a fate worse than death by a thousand cuts awaits, even death alone will not save her in that case.
 

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As I said, she was enslaved, which I am sure means she's registered in some government system where she can be identified in case, for example, she somehow escapes her current owner. This system would mean she can be identified as an enslaved elf without looking at her physical appearance.

The papers are what I am referring to, they may be available publicly and I don't think people like the nurse and especially Cornwall would be willing to risk being found out if these papers are accessible.

It would be a fun idea, but we would have to force them into it if they choose not to risk the above and that would make us no better than them. I'd say get the revenge over with, a thousand cuts per elf they each wronged, obviously not combined on both, just each getting the ones they individually earned. For added effect, make whoever goes second watch the first.


Ah yes, karma, that would indeed be brilliant. Then a fate worse than death by a thousand cuts awaits, even death alone will not save her in that case.
Yes, IF someone checks, but no one is going to run her ID by just walking down the street, most people in the world do not have the ability to do so, even if they want to. Just seeing someone on the street, no one is going to know what she is, otherwise she would have been busted already. How often does someone just run your papers because you are outside?

Even if they are available to the public, no one is going to look, just because they see her. They don't just randomly check people like that. No one would have any reason to check, unless you give them that reason.

You are okay with torturing them to death, but you have a problem with making them go for a naked walk? I just don't get this?

I have no interest in hurting anyone, or killing them, but humiliating them, far worse than they did to anyone else, I think is good. Show them what it is like, you can't learn anything if you are dead.
 

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Yes, IF someone checks, but no one is going to run her ID by just walking down the street, most people in the world do not have the ability to do so, even if they want to. Just seeing someone on the street, no one is going to know what she is, otherwise she would have been busted already. How often does someone just run your papers because you are outside?

Even if they are available to the public, no one is going to look, just because they see her. They don't just randomly check people like that. No one would have any reason to check, unless you give them that reason.

You are okay with torturing them to death, but you have a problem with making them go for a naked walk? I just don't get this?

I have no interest in hurting anyone, or killing them, but humiliating them, far worse than they did to anyone else, I think is good. Show them what it is like, you can't learn anything if you are dead.
Are you so sure? In real life legal slavery, I mean back when it was legal, there were people whose job was specifically to hunt down runaways and given the position of the slaves in game, I wouldn't exclude the possibility of runaways being a thing in Syl'anar as well, which means there are possibly people who not only could, but that have to run IDs. Then there's the fact that enslavement eligible elves don't necessarily look the part, such as Maria, who looks human except her eyes, even her skin tone isn't a giveaway. That alone would make the pro-slavery bunch wary that there could be enslavement eligible elves among them without even knowing, so this would then extend to checking for them for security purposes, especially with rogue elements like Nia.

I don't have a problem with having them walked naked like animals, but it would not make sense for them to willingly submit to it and what I do have a problem with is stooping to their level. Forcing them into the act would be stooping to their level, which is why I would be against it.

Unfortunately for those two, I've gone full Nia at this point. The thousand cuts thing is entirely driven by revenge for Maria's treatment and that of almost an entire race of people. I would make it quick, but they've hurt way too many elves for that to be possible, the sheer volume of elves would be their demise, at least most likely, they might survive.

Normally, I have no interest in hurting others without cause or unless the game is specifically based around hurting people, such as rape content, and I don't have this ability to do so in real life except in self defense, but they've gone too far. I don't think these two have the capacity to learn this lesson, they are too far gone. Others might have such capacity, but the nurse especially almost seemed like she was enjoying it and Cornwall doesn't care as long as his position isn't threatened, which we cannot do with what we have except to threaten his life in the process.

Hey, maybe if they're lucky, they'll either pass out or run out of elves they've wronged while still alive. Maybe the trauma of the experience will be enough to drive into their thick skulls the lesson they seem to be unable to learn normally. It is a long shot, but just maybe it will change them for the better assuming they survive. Either that or it will break them completely, still eliminating the threat they pose without them dying.

In games, I go eye for an eye, no exceptions, not even games where I have come to actually care about the characters as if they were real, like the girls at the hotel in this case. They essentially stripped Maria of her life by enslaving her and seizing her assets, leaving her unable to survive without the MC being generous and kind enough to help her for nothing in return, so my idea is to strip them of theirs, but they aren't enslavement eligible currently and we would have to force a test on them to put them through the exact same thing as Maria. The next best thing is literally stripping them of life.

Not my first choice, but I'm not seeing an equivalent alternative as most things already mentioned are too light to be equivalent to what Maria went through not to mention the others.
 
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Are you so sure? In real life legal slavery, I mean back when it was legal, there were people whose job was specifically to hunt down runaways and given the position of the slaves in game, I wouldn't exclude the possibility of runaways being a thing in Syl'anar as well, which means there are possibly people who not only could, but that have to run IDs. Then there's the fact that enslavement eligible elves don't necessarily look the part, such as Maria, who looks human except her eyes, even her skin tone isn't a giveaway. That alone would make the pro-slavery bunch wary that there could be enslavement eligible elves among them without even knowing, so this would then extend to checking for them for security purposes, especially with rogue elements like Nia.

I don't have a problem with having them walked naked like animals, but it would not make sense for them to willingly submit to it and what I do have a problem with is stooping to their level. Forcing them into the act would be stooping to their level, which is why I would be against it.

Unfortunately for those two, I've gone full Nia at this point. The thousand cuts thing is entirely driven by revenge for Maria's treatment and that of almost an entire race of people. I would make it quick, but they've hurt way too many elves for that to be possible, the sheer volume of elves would be their demise, at least most likely, they might survive.

Normally, I have no interest in hurting others without cause or unless the game is specifically based around hurting people, such as rape content, and I don't have this ability to do so in real life except in self defense, but they've gone too far. I don't think these two have the capacity to learn this lesson, they are too far gone. Others might have such capacity, but the nurse especially almost seemed like she was enjoying it and Cornwall doesn't care as long as his position isn't threatened, which we cannot do with what we have except to threaten his life in the process.

Hey, maybe if they're lucky, they'll either pass out or run out of elves they've wronged while still alive. Maybe the trauma of the experience will be enough to drive into their thick skulls the lesson they seem to be unable to learn normally. It is a long shot, but just maybe it will change them for the better assuming they survive. Either that or it will break them completely, still eliminating the threat they pose without them dying.

In games, I go eye for an eye, no exceptions, not even games where I have come to actually care about the characters as if they were real, like the girls at the hotel in this case. They essentially stripped Maria of her life by enslaving her and seizing her assets, leaving her unable to survive without the MC being generous and kind enough to help her for nothing in return, so my idea is to strip them of theirs, but they aren't enslavement eligible currently and we would have to force a test on them to put them through the exact same thing as Maria. The next best thing is literally stripping them of life.

Not my first choice, but I'm not seeing an equivalent alternative as most things already mentioned are too light to be equivalent to what Maria went through not to mention the others.
But she isn't a runaway, no one is hunting her, no one has any reason to look for her, as far as anyone can tell, she is just another human walking down the road with their kinky friend.

I think forcing them to embarrass themselves, is nothing compared to torture.

I wouldn't make it quick, I would show them what it is like to be a slave, teach them some humiliation, and how it feels to be powerless.

In games, like in the real world, I generally try to go for a better future, and education is the usually the best way for that. I mean, sure, there are some games where you don't have a choice, or you do a 'kill all' run, but for my main run, I try to redeem everyone I can.
 
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Also even for the police they need to know how they look like before they can do anything at all. And for half elves with clipped ears they look like anyone other with elven blood in it and thus can't be distinguished from the "normal" folks if they don't wear their collar.
I doubt ever police officer would know about ever half elves in their system. They would only shows the the runaways and dangerous one for normal if they don't do an area sweep.

Yes, face recognition. Sure, it can work, but has a lot of flaws and need a camera. As I didn't see cameras around the only ones that could do that would be the police bots.
Yet they don't care if your half elf is on pet play with a human if this is all right in the eyes of the law.

Also simple solution to this bitchy nurse why on walk with Maria put a gag in her mouth.

And I'm with TheDevian here, as I usual follow a good path in games and not one for revenge or so.

If I'm not wrong, then the only elf we know she've "wrong" is Maria. Also for the official law she've done nothing wrong, but regardless, Maria is the only one we know. So even though for sure she won't be a sage, she could just recently acquired this job and Maria was her first victim...
 
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Of course, it also depends on how much I like the story. Fallout 4 for example, I went on a killing spree pretty quickly. Never did care enough to finish the main story, figured out all of their little twists before the intro was done.
If I'm not wrong, then the only elf we know she've "wrong" is Maria. Also for the official law she've done nothing wrong, but regardless, Maria is the only one we know. So even though for sure she won't be a sage, she could just recently acquired this job and Maria was her first victim...
While that is possible, I am guessing that she has had that job for a while. But this is all based on circumstantial evidence, so like you said, it could go either way. Hard to say for sure.

While her attitude showed that she was in command, she also could have been overcompensating.
 
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