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Wow, thanks. I still won't do the sportsball thing, but nice to have it fixed. lol
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Lin found a nice pond, and wanted to wash up.
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Out of curiosity: Did you also make the environment? I don't remember having seen it anywhere else.
Hello everyone. I may be posting here a bit more often in the future now that development has been going on \o/
A rant, feel free to ignore:
It is disheartening to see that as time goes on and Harem Hotel gains a clearer identity, that identity seems to be more and more misconstrued, specifically only by some people on this website. I'm not sure if the demographics of this website changed in the last year, or what, but it's one of the reasons I've been avoiding this place more recently. The clearer I try to become, both in game and with my words, the worse it seems to get here.
I want to be clear, Harem Hotel's overarching story is not about slavery. However Lin's story is, and every elf you encounter will have a story about slavery, but that should be obvious. They've all been enslaved.
Story is my sole focus. In simple terms, the story is about changing the world. More broadly, it's about fighting a very powerful injustice with your own justice in a near-future contemporary world that is a twisted mirror to our reality. (These are similar themes to The Boys, which is one of my favorite series right now)
Each character has their own story, each story has it's overarching themes as well. (Lin = Slavery/Hope) (Kali = Capitalism) (Ashley = Poverty) (Maria = Feminism) (Android = Humanity) (F&E = Greed) (Autumn = Freedom) (Next Character = Connection)
A lot of these descriptors are very reductionary. Many may be confused by what I mean by Maria = Feminism for example. By that I mean, she's our most independent woman trying to take her body back from higher powers, whatever they may be at the time. Other words could be used to describe these, and they obviously aren't the only themes. Many of these themes mix, like with Maria and Lin, or F&E and Ashley.
It's not my goal to write a depressive, dark story. It's quite the opposite in fact. Harem Hotel was always planned to have a happy ending. Every character's personal story is planned to have a happy ending, and even every character's arc within those stories are will have at least neutral endings. It's common writing sense to start each chapter off with a challenge that needs to be overcome by the end of it, and that's what I plan on continuing. I love writing all types of stories, and attempting to make the reader feel different emotions. I don't want to reduce myself, or be reduced to sadness. I hope that isn't the only emotion I'm making people feel. Though, apparently it is from the feedback I get here.
But I know most people who hold these opinions will never see this post, so I apologize for the rant. I miss coming to F95 to discuss lore or answer game questions or read suggestions / hopes for the future. All I've been noticing lately is this huge disconnect between me and a lot of people here.
If anyone would like some clarification, or would like to share their hopes for the future, I would love to discuss
===
In other news, I finished a massive event for Android last week should be wholesome!
I have also been working hard on Caliber's environments for the new early game MC-only explore events. Many things, like the ads are still under construction.
MC arrives in Caliber after first starting the game (optional at front door), not knowing anywhere to go, he Explores. At which point a small event will come up and you'll unlock some areas.
After the Explore/Continue option, you will arrive at the "2nd Street", where you get more and different options. Each location is meant to have many short 2 - 5 minute events that will appear. You will likely have the ability to view 3 of these events in a row before going back to the hotel, 1 for each street.
These images should also help the player get immersed in the culture of Syl'anar. Elvish slavery, androids, police with very expensive cars next to homeless people, etc etc
A rant, feel free to ignore:
It is disheartening to see that as time goes on and Harem Hotel gains a clearer identity, that identity seems to be more and more misconstrued, specifically only by some people on this website. I'm not sure if the demographics of this website changed in the last year, or what, but it's one of the reasons I've been avoiding this place more recently. The clearer I try to become, both in game and with my words, the worse it seems to get here.
I want to be clear, Harem Hotel's overarching story is not about slavery. However Lin's story is, and every elf you encounter will have a story about slavery, but that should be obvious. They've all been enslaved.
Story is my sole focus. In simple terms, the story is about changing the world. More broadly, it's about fighting a very powerful injustice with your own justice in a near-future contemporary world that is a twisted mirror to our reality. (These are similar themes to The Boys, which is one of my favorite series right now)
Each character has their own story, each story has it's overarching themes as well. (Lin = Slavery/Hope) (Kali = Capitalism) (Ashley = Poverty) (Maria = Feminism) (Android = Humanity) (F&E = Greed) (Autumn = Freedom) (Next Character = Connection)
A lot of these descriptors are very reductionary. Many may be confused by what I mean by Maria = Feminism for example. By that I mean, she's our most independent woman trying to take her body back from higher powers, whatever they may be at the time. Other words could be used to describe these, and they obviously aren't the only themes. Many of these themes mix, like with Maria and Lin, or F&E and Ashley.
It's not my goal to write a depressive, dark story. It's quite the opposite in fact. Harem Hotel was always planned to have a happy ending. Every character's personal story is planned to have a happy ending, and even every character's arc within those stories are will have at least neutral endings. It's common writing sense to start each chapter off with a challenge that needs to be overcome by the end of it, and that's what I plan on continuing. I love writing all types of stories, and attempting to make the reader feel different emotions. I don't want to reduce myself, or be reduced to sadness. I hope that isn't the only emotion I'm making people feel. Though, apparently it is from the feedback I get here.
But I know most people who hold these opinions will never see this post, so I apologize for the rant. I miss coming to F95 to discuss lore or answer game questions or read suggestions / hopes for the future. All I've been noticing lately is this huge disconnect between me and a lot of people here.
If anyone would like some clarification, or would like to share their hopes for the future, I would love to discuss
===
In other news, I finished a massive event for Android last week should be wholesome!
I have also been working hard on Caliber's environments for the new early game MC-only explore events. Many things, like the ads are still under construction.
MC arrives in Caliber after first starting the game (optional at front door), not knowing anywhere to go, he Explores. At which point a small event will come up and you'll unlock some areas.
After the Explore/Continue option, you will arrive at the "2nd Street", where you get more and different options. Each location is meant to have many short 2 - 5 minute events that will appear. You will likely have the ability to view 3 of these events in a row before going back to the hotel, 1 for each street.
These images should also help the player get immersed in the culture of Syl'anar. Elvish slavery, androids, police with very expensive cars next to homeless people, etc etc
- Jan 26, 2021
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Praise Gaius you aren't dead... <3Hello everyone. I may be posting here a bit more often in the future now that development has been going on \o/
A rant, feel free to ignore:
It is disheartening to see that as time goes on and Harem Hotel gains a clearer identity, that identity seems to be more and more misconstrued, specifically only by some people on this website. I'm not sure if the demographics of this website changed in the last year, or what, but it's one of the reasons I've been avoiding this place more recently. The clearer I try to become, both in game and with my words, the worse it seems to get here.
I want to be clear, Harem Hotel's overarching story is not about slavery. However Lin's story is, and every elf you encounter will have a story about slavery, but that should be obvious. They've all been enslaved.
Story is my sole focus. In simple terms, the story is about changing the world. More broadly, it's about fighting a very powerful injustice with your own justice in a near-future contemporary world that is a twisted mirror to our reality. (These are similar themes to The Boys, which is one of my favorite series right now)
Each character has their own story, each story has it's overarching themes as well. (Lin = Slavery/Hope) (Kali = Capitalism) (Ashley = Poverty) (Maria = Feminism) (Android = Humanity) (F&E = Greed) (Autumn = Freedom) (Next Character = Connection)
A lot of these descriptors are very reductionary. Many may be confused by what I mean by Maria = Feminism for example. By that I mean, she's our most independent woman trying to take her body back from higher powers, whatever they may be at the time. Other words could be used to describe these, and they obviously aren't the only themes. Many of these themes mix, like with Maria and Lin, or F&E and Ashley.
It's not my goal to write a depressive, dark story. It's quite the opposite in fact. Harem Hotel was always planned to have a happy ending. Every character's personal story is planned to have a happy ending, and even every character's arc within those stories are will have at least neutral endings. It's common writing sense to start each chapter off with a challenge that needs to be overcome by the end of it, and that's what I plan on continuing. I love writing all types of stories, and attempting to make the reader feel different emotions. I don't want to reduce myself, or be reduced to sadness. I hope that isn't the only emotion I'm making people feel. Though, apparently it is from the feedback I get here.
But I know most people who hold these opinions will never see this post, so I apologize for the rant. I miss coming to F95 to discuss lore or answer game questions or read suggestions / hopes for the future. All I've been noticing lately is this huge disconnect between me and a lot of people here.
If anyone would like some clarification, or would like to share their hopes for the future, I would love to discuss
===
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In other news, I finished a massive event for Android last week should be wholesome!
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I have also been working hard on Caliber's environments for the new early game MC-only explore events. Many things, like the ads are still under construction.
MC arrives in Caliber after first starting the game (optional at front door), not knowing anywhere to go, he Explores. At which point a small event will come up and you'll unlock some areas.
View attachment 1971161
After the Explore/Continue option, you will arrive at the "2nd Street", where you get more and different options. Each location is meant to have many short 2 - 5 minute events that will appear. You will likely have the ability to view 3 of these events in a row before going back to the hotel, 1 for each street.
View attachment 1971160
These images should also help the player get immersed in the culture of Syl'anar. Elvish slavery, androids, police with very expensive cars next to homeless people, etc etc
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Runey
Dude...
Please... don't let he haters get to you... your game is amazing and it's one of the best.
Do what you like to do and please just continue with your vision.
Dude...
Please... don't let he haters get to you... your game is amazing and it's one of the best.
Do what you like to do and please just continue with your vision.
- Nov 20, 2017
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I 'm very sad to hear that. I don't think that this thread is one of the zone snake pit and I even say that it is one of the better ones. So I'm a little shocked to hear that.
I missed that time too. The time in the past, where we've discussed not only the broken bar of some other players or their headpat count, but also the story of the girls and the overall lore.
For me this game was always about the girls and they story. I know that Lin's story is a linked a lot to slavery, not because of slavery, but because of Lin.
I haven't found Autumn to my liking, but that is a strong point for me. I don't need to like all aspect or girls here and I can only like or not like something when I care about it and this is only possible thanks to your writting skill.
So, I hope to see you back more here, even if it is only to give us long-time resident a life sign. So I give you my best wish until next time.
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Fuck the haters is what I think. Harem Hotel is one of the best AVNs I've ever played. And while I don't have 50k hs in it like TheDevian it's still worth every minute.
The thing is that 70,78% of the users of this website are dumb as fuck... write shit like "uPDaTe wHeN" or ask for saves to access the gallery and missing the point of the game entirely.
As I said before.
Runey.
Do your thing. And don't let some "fucktards" make you doubt yourself for even one second.
The thing is that 70,78% of the users of this website are dumb as fuck... write shit like "uPDaTe wHeN" or ask for saves to access the gallery and missing the point of the game entirely.
As I said before.
Runey.
Do your thing. And don't let some "fucktards" make you doubt yourself for even one second.
- Jun 4, 2019
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Runey , remember that at times like these, the idiots who don't read your explanations or understand the story you present before them are just that. Idiots.
And if things get really bad for you, I'd like you to remember this paraphrased quote, one that I hope will offer some inspiration:
And if things get really bad for you, I'd like you to remember this paraphrased quote, one that I hope will offer some inspiration:
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The forum doesn't need a bunch of white knights coming to defend Runey every time he posts. He doesn't need an echo chamber telling him how amazing everything is: it limits growth and ideas.
What he also doesn't need? This kind of bullshit. If you have an opinion, post it constructively so that it encourages discussion and provokes thoughts and ideas to build on. Specifically Autumn's story and content progression has been covered ad-nauseam, even on the last couple of pages, yet you still thought this was the kind of thing that would acceptable discussion? Ridiculous.
He specifically said why he's been backing off posts, yet you spout this shit and I can only assume it's as a form of trolling entertainment, because what person who read his post would continue to attempt to push him away.
No, I downloaded that one, would take too much time I don't have right now. It's called Fairy Haven, by Magix 101. I did add the water ripples, they were from some water set, then I just applied the same texture from the water that was already there, so it matched.
As the others said, 'haters gonna hate'. As this next guy proves.
Having some political elements in the story is going to bring out the worst in some people, especially these days, not a lot you can do about it, other than ignore them, and keep doing what you do. It's working for you, and most of your fans love it. You can't please everyone, so there is no point in even trying.
Art needs to offend people sometimes to do its job.
Oh, FFS! For the umpteenth time, Autumn's vaginal sex will be LAST! Get over it. She will do anal first, and needs more time. He IS working on it, said so in the post you quoted.
- Sep 3, 2017
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RUNEY!!!Hello everyone. I may be posting here a bit more often in the future now that development has been going on \o/
A rant, feel free to ignore:
It is disheartening to see that as time goes on and Harem Hotel gains a clearer identity, that identity seems to be more and more misconstrued, specifically only by some people on this website. I'm not sure if the demographics of this website changed in the last year, or what, but it's one of the reasons I've been avoiding this place more recently. The clearer I try to become, both in game and with my words, the worse it seems to get here.
I want to be clear, Harem Hotel's overarching story is not about slavery. However Lin's story is, and every elf you encounter will have a story about slavery, but that should be obvious. They've all been enslaved.
Story is my sole focus. In simple terms, the story is about changing the world. More broadly, it's about fighting a very powerful injustice with your own justice in a near-future contemporary world that is a twisted mirror to our reality. (These are similar themes to The Boys, which is one of my favorite series right now)
Each character has their own story, each story has it's overarching themes as well. (Lin = Slavery/Hope) (Kali = Capitalism) (Ashley = Poverty) (Maria = Feminism) (Android = Humanity) (F&E = Greed) (Autumn = Freedom) (Next Character = Connection)
A lot of these descriptors are very reductionary. Many may be confused by what I mean by Maria = Feminism for example. By that I mean, she's our most independent woman trying to take her body back from higher powers, whatever they may be at the time. Other words could be used to describe these, and they obviously aren't the only themes. Many of these themes mix, like with Maria and Lin, or F&E and Ashley.
It's not my goal to write a depressive, dark story. It's quite the opposite in fact. Harem Hotel was always planned to have a happy ending. Every character's personal story is planned to have a happy ending, and even every character's arc within those stories are will have at least neutral endings. It's common writing sense to start each chapter off with a challenge that needs to be overcome by the end of it, and that's what I plan on continuing. I love writing all types of stories, and attempting to make the reader feel different emotions. I don't want to reduce myself, or be reduced to sadness. I hope that isn't the only emotion I'm making people feel. Though, apparently it is from the feedback I get here.
But I know most people who hold these opinions will never see this post, so I apologize for the rant. I miss coming to F95 to discuss lore or answer game questions or read suggestions / hopes for the future. All I've been noticing lately is this huge disconnect between me and a lot of people here.
If anyone would like some clarification, or would like to share their hopes for the future, I would love to discuss
===
View attachment 1971157
In other news, I finished a massive event for Android last week should be wholesome!
View attachment 1971158
I have also been working hard on Caliber's environments for the new early game MC-only explore events. Many things, like the ads are still under construction.
MC arrives in Caliber after first starting the game (optional at front door), not knowing anywhere to go, he Explores. At which point a small event will come up and you'll unlock some areas.
View attachment 1971161
After the Explore/Continue option, you will arrive at the "2nd Street", where you get more and different options. Each location is meant to have many short 2 - 5 minute events that will appear. You will likely have the ability to view 3 of these events in a row before going back to the hotel, 1 for each street.
View attachment 1971160
These images should also help the player get immersed in the culture of Syl'anar. Elvish slavery, androids, police with very expensive cars next to homeless people, etc etc
View attachment 1971166
Welcome back to the porn game version of Tortuga. Quickly, someone get this man a whore and some rum.
Also : Group event - Game night! Hint hint...
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This has been my favorite game here for a looong time, and I've always been a fan of the upbeat/somewhat light-hearted approach you take to your brand of story telling, so reading this post all I can say is:Hello everyone. I may be posting here a bit more often in the future now that development has been going on \o/
A rant, feel free to ignore:
It is disheartening to see that as time goes on and Harem Hotel gains a clearer identity, that identity seems to be more and more misconstrued, specifically only by some people on this website. I'm not sure if the demographics of this website changed in the last year, or what, but it's one of the reasons I've been avoiding this place more recently. The clearer I try to become, both in game and with my words, the worse it seems to get here.
I want to be clear, Harem Hotel's overarching story is not about slavery. However Lin's story is, and every elf you encounter will have a story about slavery, but that should be obvious. They've all been enslaved.
Story is my sole focus. In simple terms, the story is about changing the world. More broadly, it's about fighting a very powerful injustice with your own justice in a near-future contemporary world that is a twisted mirror to our reality. (These are similar themes to The Boys, which is one of my favorite series right now)
Each character has their own story, each story has it's overarching themes as well. (Lin = Slavery/Hope) (Kali = Capitalism) (Ashley = Poverty) (Maria = Feminism) (Android = Humanity) (F&E = Greed) (Autumn = Freedom) (Next Character = Connection)
A lot of these descriptors are very reductionary. Many may be confused by what I mean by Maria = Feminism for example. By that I mean, she's our most independent woman trying to take her body back from higher powers, whatever they may be at the time. Other words could be used to describe these, and they obviously aren't the only themes. Many of these themes mix, like with Maria and Lin, or F&E and Ashley.
It's not my goal to write a depressive, dark story. It's quite the opposite in fact. Harem Hotel was always planned to have a happy ending. Every character's personal story is planned to have a happy ending, and even every character's arc within those stories are will have at least neutral endings. It's common writing sense to start each chapter off with a challenge that needs to be overcome by the end of it, and that's what I plan on continuing. I love writing all types of stories, and attempting to make the reader feel different emotions. I don't want to reduce myself, or be reduced to sadness. I hope that isn't the only emotion I'm making people feel. Though, apparently it is from the feedback I get here.
But I know most people who hold these opinions will never see this post, so I apologize for the rant. I miss coming to F95 to discuss lore or answer game questions or read suggestions / hopes for the future. All I've been noticing lately is this huge disconnect between me and a lot of people here.
If anyone would like some clarification, or would like to share their hopes for the future, I would love to discuss
===
View attachment 1971157
In other news, I finished a massive event for Android last week should be wholesome!
View attachment 1971158
I have also been working hard on Caliber's environments for the new early game MC-only explore events. Many things, like the ads are still under construction.
MC arrives in Caliber after first starting the game (optional at front door), not knowing anywhere to go, he Explores. At which point a small event will come up and you'll unlock some areas.
View attachment 1971161
After the Explore/Continue option, you will arrive at the "2nd Street", where you get more and different options. Each location is meant to have many short 2 - 5 minute events that will appear. You will likely have the ability to view 3 of these events in a row before going back to the hotel, 1 for each street.
View attachment 1971160
These images should also help the player get immersed in the culture of Syl'anar. Elvish slavery, androids, police with very expensive cars next to homeless people, etc etc
View attachment 1971166
THAT IS FREAKING AWESOME!
It'll be great seeing you popping in again more often.
I admit, I'm more a dating sim person, so I don't really enjoy the "Slave" stories or any of the overarcing storylines that have very little to do with sex, but that's more of a personal taste thing rather than a critique on the story telling. I think you're very good at story telling and the game is thought out and the world building is well done, I just play AVGs for the sexy time stuff tbh rather than the plot, the only plot that I actually stop and read are the one's leading directly up to sexy times. Everything else is just filler for me personally, but that doesn't mean it's not very well done, nor does it mean I can't recognize how well designed this game is.Hello everyone. I may be posting here a bit more often in the future now that development has been going on \o/
A rant, feel free to ignore:
It is disheartening to see that as time goes on and Harem Hotel gains a clearer identity, that identity seems to be more and more misconstrued, specifically only by some people on this website. I'm not sure if the demographics of this website changed in the last year, or what, but it's one of the reasons I've been avoiding this place more recently. The clearer I try to become, both in game and with my words, the worse it seems to get here.
I want to be clear, Harem Hotel's overarching story is not about slavery. However Lin's story is, and every elf you encounter will have a story about slavery, but that should be obvious. They've all been enslaved.
Story is my sole focus. In simple terms, the story is about changing the world. More broadly, it's about fighting a very powerful injustice with your own justice in a near-future contemporary world that is a twisted mirror to our reality. (These are similar themes to The Boys, which is one of my favorite series right now)
Each character has their own story, each story has it's overarching themes as well. (Lin = Slavery/Hope) (Kali = Capitalism) (Ashley = Poverty) (Maria = Feminism) (Android = Humanity) (F&E = Greed) (Autumn = Freedom) (Next Character = Connection)
A lot of these descriptors are very reductionary. Many may be confused by what I mean by Maria = Feminism for example. By that I mean, she's our most independent woman trying to take her body back from higher powers, whatever they may be at the time. Other words could be used to describe these, and they obviously aren't the only themes. Many of these themes mix, like with Maria and Lin, or F&E and Ashley.
It's not my goal to write a depressive, dark story. It's quite the opposite in fact. Harem Hotel was always planned to have a happy ending. Every character's personal story is planned to have a happy ending, and even every character's arc within those stories are will have at least neutral endings. It's common writing sense to start each chapter off with a challenge that needs to be overcome by the end of it, and that's what I plan on continuing. I love writing all types of stories, and attempting to make the reader feel different emotions. I don't want to reduce myself, or be reduced to sadness. I hope that isn't the only emotion I'm making people feel. Though, apparently it is from the feedback I get here.
But I know most people who hold these opinions will never see this post, so I apologize for the rant. I miss coming to F95 to discuss lore or answer game questions or read suggestions / hopes for the future. All I've been noticing lately is this huge disconnect between me and a lot of people here.
If anyone would like some clarification, or would like to share their hopes for the future, I would love to discuss
===
View attachment 1971157
In other news, I finished a massive event for Android last week should be wholesome!
View attachment 1971158
I have also been working hard on Caliber's environments for the new early game MC-only explore events. Many things, like the ads are still under construction.
MC arrives in Caliber after first starting the game (optional at front door), not knowing anywhere to go, he Explores. At which point a small event will come up and you'll unlock some areas.
View attachment 1971161
After the Explore/Continue option, you will arrive at the "2nd Street", where you get more and different options. Each location is meant to have many short 2 - 5 minute events that will appear. You will likely have the ability to view 3 of these events in a row before going back to the hotel, 1 for each street.
View attachment 1971160
These images should also help the player get immersed in the culture of Syl'anar. Elvish slavery, androids, police with very expensive cars next to homeless people, etc etc
View attachment 1971166
Don't let people dictate what you do with your game and don't let it get you down. I'm admittedly not very active in F95 outside of the ocassional comment, but I got an email that you dropped a comment, so I came to read it and want to give you a bit of support so you don't feel down in the dumps over some haters crapping on the game for whatever reason.
Youre game is great, I'm honestly not even a big fan of 3D AVGs, I prefer 2D Hand Animated ones from Renpy more, but I loved your game the first time I tried and have looked fwd to every update since!
People complaining just need to learn to sift through the aspects of the game that may or may not interest them and skip to the more "sexy times" parts if that's what they prefer. Nobody's bogging them down and force feeding them dialogue, there's a skip button there for a reason if they're just here for the Bobs and Vegene.
Keep up the great work! Looking fwd to the next update, can't wait to see more content for Autumn, Lucy, Ellen, Julia, Sylvia, Nia, Hana, Moon, Nala, Vanessa, Kate and the Faries.
I tend to go for the underdogs, and since Ashley, Kali, Lin, Emma, Felicity, Maria, Jin and the Android tend to get the bulk of the attention and story in the game, I'd love to see some more focus being pivoted on lesser included characters like when we had that Threesome with Kali and Moon after Bowling, or the couple of times we've had sex with Emma while Maria watches.
That's another thing that'd be cool too, more options for group sex with 2 or more partners at the same time, and swappable with characters who maybe don't interact with eachother as often, like pairing Kali and Ashley, or Lucy and Maria, or Lin and Felicity perhaps.
I'm sure it's all easier said than done, but those are all directions the game hasn't really gone in much, so if you're ever pent up on new ideas or content, those ideas above would certainly be welcomed by everybody I'm sure
Anyway, keep your head up, don't listen to the naysayers, Harem Hotel is great and it has a TON of content already, you've already gained the people's trust. The only people complaining now are people who are new to the game more than likely, so the fickle crowd pretty much, but your long time supporters are still here
Runey don't mistake any of this with being a hater, I like Harem Hotel, but I would like to get some clarification on a couple of things you said.
Right now it seems like the better way to encapsulate the overarching story would be "Changing the world by getting rid of slavery". But that's still a story about slavery.
I guess in the next few updates we could discover that there was an error and Maria is not a half-elf, Ashley imagined Mrs Rin, Autumn's story line never goes into the slavery aspect (which would be kinda plot-holy), Kali's dad's elf 2.0 project fails and we don't get the whole "are robots slaves" direction for Android, but that would be a really weird overall direction.
Also I wonder if one of the reasons you get bad feedback is that the 'meta' for visual novels is a small period of build up/forming relationships then once that happens they are 50/50 story to sex scenes (if not more tilted to sex scenes). You were doing this but now you are doing 80%-90% story with the remainder being sex scenes. This makes it seem like you're trying to make some kind of statement rather than make porn.
Just a shower thought though, dunno how accurate it is.
It seems weird to me that you say the story is not about slavery but all the main characters except F&E have direct ties to the overall slavery story focus. Lin is obvious; as is Maria; Ashley is looking for a slave that impacted her life; Autumn is in line to be the new 'pope' of her religion that seems to be instrumental in the elf slavery; Kali's story line focuses on her father who is making slave 2.0 from the elf slaves; lastly Android is a robot that are effectively a slave that is making a new race of robots (I wager that's going to intersect with Kali's storyline). This is not including 5/9 side characters and other reoccurring characters that are also involved in the slavery focus.
Right now it seems like the better way to encapsulate the overarching story would be "Changing the world by getting rid of slavery". But that's still a story about slavery.
I guess in the next few updates we could discover that there was an error and Maria is not a half-elf, Ashley imagined Mrs Rin, Autumn's story line never goes into the slavery aspect (which would be kinda plot-holy), Kali's dad's elf 2.0 project fails and we don't get the whole "are robots slaves" direction for Android, but that would be a really weird overall direction.
Also I wonder if one of the reasons you get bad feedback is that the 'meta' for visual novels is a small period of build up/forming relationships then once that happens they are 50/50 story to sex scenes (if not more tilted to sex scenes). You were doing this but now you are doing 80%-90% story with the remainder being sex scenes. This makes it seem like you're trying to make some kind of statement rather than make porn.
Just a shower thought though, dunno how accurate it is.
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A happy ending for Lin, Ashley and Shir-01 (Android) like they deserve.Hello everyone. I may be posting here a bit more often in the future now that development has been going on \o/
A rant, feel free to ignore:
It is disheartening to see that as time goes on and Harem Hotel gains a clearer identity, that identity seems to be more and more misconstrued, specifically only by some people on this website. I'm not sure if the demographics of this website changed in the last year, or what, but it's one of the reasons I've been avoiding this place more recently. The clearer I try to become, both in game and with my words, the worse it seems to get here.
I want to be clear, Harem Hotel's overarching story is not about slavery. However Lin's story is, and every elf you encounter will have a story about slavery, but that should be obvious. They've all been enslaved.
Story is my sole focus. In simple terms, the story is about changing the world. More broadly, it's about fighting a very powerful injustice with your own justice in a near-future contemporary world that is a twisted mirror to our reality. (These are similar themes to The Boys, which is one of my favorite series right now)
Each character has their own story, each story has it's overarching themes as well. (Lin = Slavery/Hope) (Kali = Capitalism) (Ashley = Poverty) (Maria = Feminism) (Android = Humanity) (F&E = Greed) (Autumn = Freedom) (Next Character = Connection)
A lot of these descriptors are very reductionary. Many may be confused by what I mean by Maria = Feminism for example. By that I mean, she's our most independent woman trying to take her body back from higher powers, whatever they may be at the time. Other words could be used to describe these, and they obviously aren't the only themes. Many of these themes mix, like with Maria and Lin, or F&E and Ashley.
It's not my goal to write a depressive, dark story. It's quite the opposite in fact. Harem Hotel was always planned to have a happy ending. Every character's personal story is planned to have a happy ending, and even every character's arc within those stories are will have at least neutral endings. It's common writing sense to start each chapter off with a challenge that needs to be overcome by the end of it, and that's what I plan on continuing. I love writing all types of stories, and attempting to make the reader feel different emotions. I don't want to reduce myself, or be reduced to sadness. I hope that isn't the only emotion I'm making people feel. Though, apparently it is from the feedback I get here.
But I know most people who hold these opinions will never see this post, so I apologize for the rant. I miss coming to F95 to discuss lore or answer game questions or read suggestions / hopes for the future. All I've been noticing lately is this huge disconnect between me and a lot of people here.
If anyone would like some clarification, or would like to share their hopes for the future, I would love to discuss
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In other news, I finished a massive event for Android last week should be wholesome!
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I have also been working hard on Caliber's environments for the new early game MC-only explore events. Many things, like the ads are still under construction.
MC arrives in Caliber after first starting the game (optional at front door), not knowing anywhere to go, he Explores. At which point a small event will come up and you'll unlock some areas.
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After the Explore/Continue option, you will arrive at the "2nd Street", where you get more and different options. Each location is meant to have many short 2 - 5 minute events that will appear. You will likely have the ability to view 3 of these events in a row before going back to the hotel, 1 for each street.
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These images should also help the player get immersed in the culture of Syl'anar. Elvish slavery, androids, police with very expensive cars next to homeless people, etc etc
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You're focusing on one theme too much, the slavery theme. That's why you notice it everywhere. The same could be said about greed. Why does slavery exist? Greed. Why does poverty exist? Greed. Capitalism? Greed. It's reductionary, like what I just did. It could easily be said that every story is about Freedom too. Freedom from slavery, power, greed, etc. Ms. Ren isn't just missing because she's a slave, she's missing because powerful, greedy people wanted to abuse her.
The point is, every theme bounces off each other, and always has. I think what you really might be saying is "I don't like the slavery and wish there was less of it". You notice things you hate more, after all.
It was certainly my intention to front load the sexual content, because I hate it when games with porn in them string you along forever. That content is also repeatable, so you can always come back to it. That content keeps being refreshed with outfits, or freestyle. I wouldn't say it's 80%-90% story, It's more like 60%-70% story, which is actually what most people polled prefer. 1 sex event for every 3 - 4 story events. (With a priority on story, meaning I don't just include sex to fill a quota, I do it when it feels right)
And no, I'm not "trying to make porn". As I've tried to make very clear, I'm trying to write a story. This is an Adult Visual Novel.
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To be fair though, their world, or rather the continent(?) country(?) they live in is primarily into legalized slavery, it's not a surprise that most of the characters will brush with the concept since it's a key part of their culture.
But I think Lin is the key story of slavery here. While Ashley is looking for her slave "mom", her core story is about her struggles as a poor kid and her depression, like Kali's is about her being born a rich girl and the responsibility that comes with that, and the Twin Clones being about, like Runey, said, Greed.
Most of F&E's scenes aren't slavery, they're about them always fighting over you. And Shir-01 (android, sorry it's just I named her and it's easy to forget it's a custom named character), is about her existence, while the questions of elf slavery and human acceptance comes into play, it's still mainly about her being a new species and how she'll be treated while using humans' treatment of elves as comparison for what her fate might be.
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To add on to this, these themes are just flavors on the core, which is the characters. So yeah, common themes won't even always be present. Not every Lin event will include something about slavery.