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I remember a time when this thread was about a game called... what was it? Harem something or other...
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while the topic did branch a fair bit it most likely branched off of a subject on the android character in the game
another game where this type of subject might make more sense on would be the factorial omega game by inccel
in that u basically are a slum dweller in a low end apartment and stumble across a sexbot that is partly broken when you find it
- Jan 26, 2021
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*reads thread around AI*
*sighs*
People say words but lack the backbone to go read the published papers.
Hard AI, General Purpose AI. Human Grade AI. Is still like... ~40 years away. Maybe. If we're lucky.
Soft AI that you've already seen news headlines about is not cheap nor easy. Androids like in HH is still AT BEST ~60 years away. At best.
Look to success in brain emulation for how stupidly far we still are from human level AI where we emulate whole neural network scans. You'll breathe easier knowing your probably be dead before it becomes a real problem.
However. Teaching your kids to be good to the robots and be open minded but critical thinkers might be more important than ever.
*sighs*
People say words but lack the backbone to go read the published papers.
Hard AI, General Purpose AI. Human Grade AI. Is still like... ~40 years away. Maybe. If we're lucky.
Soft AI that you've already seen news headlines about is not cheap nor easy. Androids like in HH is still AT BEST ~60 years away. At best.
Look to success in brain emulation for how stupidly far we still are from human level AI where we emulate whole neural network scans. You'll breathe easier knowing your probably be dead before it becomes a real problem.
However. Teaching your kids to be good to the robots and be open minded but critical thinkers might be more important than ever.
Anybody able to get the 0.17 update? Or does it require a Patreon link in game too?
Can't seem to find a download link anywhere.
Can't seem to find a download link anywhere.
That is because we don't generally share the incomplete, and partly broken betas here.
You're confusing intelligence with common sense and those don't always go hand in hand. Some of the smartest people have virtually little to no common sense and the reverse can be said as some of the dumbest people may not be smart but they have a ton of common sense.
this is true, but besides the point. If we discovered an asteroid capable of causing a mass extinction heading right for us, and that it would arrive in 40 years, we wouldn't just say "oh, but its so far away, we can wait a decade or two before worrying about it".
AI safety is kinda like global warming, if that makes sense.
For the sake of tidiness. If you don't mind I'll happily message you my reply instead of here in a public thread.
- Jun 29, 2019
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If you go back to an earlier comment that I made, you teach it.
You teach it problem solving.
You teach it how to identify conspiracy theories and propaganda.
You teach it to think logically, but at the same time you teach it to understand that humans are flawed, but that they are evolving and in time will be better.
By teaching it, you can help it learn to think with common sense.
It would take years to teach it by feeding it data by only via visual input and audio input.
People would get to know it, and it would get to know them as it learned.
In essence, you teach it like a child, just as Android is doing with Allie in the game.
As it learns more, you can feed it more data.
Android could have easily just loaded Allie up with everything that she thought that Allie would need, but she chose to teach it to be a child, and in doing so to be more human.
The level of knowledge and kind of knowledge during the AI's early years could easily be controlled, by giving it the data that it needs only for it's current lessons.
That's teaching it knowledge not common sense.
Common Sense is a life skill it's something they have to experience living day to day and learning from those experiences, you can't teach that. You can guide it based on your own similar experiences but ultimately they have to learn for themselves. It's closely tied to one's instincts.
- Jun 29, 2019
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Exactly, and by spending years being educated and talking about the world and events, it can learn wisdom by studying the mistakes of others, and discuss other ways of doing it with people.
Wisdom is built on a mountain of mistakes.
They do not have to be your own mistakes.
You're over complicating and over thinking a practical day to day life skill, it also doesn't take years to develop as it's a natural ability that everyone has but very few these days use it.
The best advice to give anyone on it is to follow their instincts and trust their intuition.
What you are talking about is Phronesis or the practical application of wisdom or intelligence relevant to practical actions. While they are similar they are not the same. As it deals with ethics, habits and morality.
Humans are lazy and shortsighted, and this is Pandora's box. The people who have the power, don't listen to the smart people, so we will open it, and put it in charge of things at some point. While it is possible that we could control its growth, we won't while oligarchs are in charge.
Controlling it won't be profitable, so abusing it and rushing to be the first one to do X will be the goals. Anything to make a buck. We are living in Idiocracy.
Hopefully we do a better job with A11-y and their siblings. But that is the advantage of us raising them because we care, not because we want to make money.
Controlling it won't be profitable, so abusing it and rushing to be the first one to do X will be the goals. Anything to make a buck. We are living in Idiocracy.
Hopefully we do a better job with A11-y and their siblings. But that is the advantage of us raising them because we care, not because we want to make money.
An Idiocracy happens when a Meritocracy becomes corrupt and fails. Just like what people call Capitalism is actually Corporatism as Capitalism disappeared a little over 50yrs ago.
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Well, for once, before that thread goes either in a clean up or become more focus of the game Harem AI
again and not of some possible aspect of it or next is the whole colonialization with the slave trade.
Also, I think that is trhe only post I write about that.
again and not of some possible aspect of it or next is the whole colonialization with the slave trade.Also, I think that is trhe only post I write about that.
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I need more Kali content. Runey where is my Kali content?!