Dylan741

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Must be an android incompatibility then I'm running it on JoiPlay and those options change nothing with the text box.
It's possible, I'm playing it on Mac and always had this feature available, but I read that joiplay had some issues and that can be another one.
I hope you will solve it, I wish I could be of much help but sadly I'm a complete noob about android and joiplay, sorry.:)
 
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MafiaTaco

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Random question for the community: Are there any easter eggs for Android or other characters other than telling Lin to call you "Daddy" when you first meet her?

I started a new playthrough and have been trying fun ideas for stuff like choosing the Androids name but haven't found any that change dialog.
 

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Android version???
Yeah JoiPlay,
but you need a at least 2x the size of the game in Storage around 20 to 25 gb free (rar folder and extracting the game),
and when you do get it to run Save often like every 3 min cause it will ctd occasionally,
and a text box you can't get rid of. but it works.

 

DashFlash

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One - she's a robot, technically a gynoid. There is no blood relationship there.
Two - They are not legally related, despite how the grandfather might have seen her.
Three - I've made her call the MC "Big Brother".
Of Course they're not legally related. The grandfather died before he finished her and properly have a conversation.
 

Evil13

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Of Course they're not legally related. The grandfather died before he finished her and properly have a conversation.
You're kind of missing the point. He couldn't have adopted her, she's a robot and at that time, I would imagine the government was not going to give rights to tools. She might be unique, created that way by the grandfather, but at the end of the day, she would have no legal standing, except as something to be inherited. Which she was.
 
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Finished the latest update, i feel like this game is kind of getting away from me, kind of like my tastes have changed or something, i used to be heavily invested in it but now it just feels like 'watch elves get shat on simulator', i feel powerless in every scene and it never feels like it pays off. Kali being pro vampirism whilst the MC just nods his head for example. These aren't objective criticisms, just my personal experience but i feel powerless enough in real life and i just want the girls to be happy and it feels like that's never really going to happen, at least not until the very very end when Runey wraps the story up. Having Lin make her stand only to rip it away with yet another deus ex machina just makes me frustrated, is Archon a new big bad just to keep our android from becoming narratively too powerful? Dunno, feels bleak and unsatisfying.

I'm still a big proponent of authors writing what they want to write without dipshits coming in and demanding changes so don't take my post for that, please.
This is a project in development, you're witnessing a story being written in real time. You wouldn't leave in the middle of a movie because something confusing or frustrating happened, because it serves the purpose of making the ending better. The point of something confusing or frustrating is to make you question something or mad at something for story-telling purposes. If a writer does this well, you actually feel something.

So please sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. It's all a part of the plan, and we're not near the end.
 

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Ran the Girls through stable diffusion, maybe you like it:

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I still find it funny that any AI always seems to have problems with drawing hands, and there could be made some comparisons with people that just started drawing.

So I always look for hands when I see AI images and I am not disappointed;

Android looks like she got 6 fingers




And Marias nails are looking funny







TLDR; Human or AI, drawing hands is hard.
 

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This is a project in development, you're witnessing a story being written in real time. You wouldn't leave in the middle of a movie because something confusing or frustrating happened, because it serves the purpose of making the ending better. The point of something confusing or frustrating is to make you question something or mad at something for story-telling purposes. If a writer does this well, you actually feel something.

So please sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. It's all a part of the plan, and we're not near the end.
I know Runey, but it's just getting to me, i've watched elves get shat on by every element of society so many times now i don't want to see it any more, not narratively or on a meta level sitting in my bedroom at my computer. I'm not enjoying myself any more. Again, you make your game the way you want to, i'm not remotely suggesting otherwise, but i'm bowing out. It's just too bleak, i need to have lighter, happier stories filling my head up these days, not more images of defenseless elves getting shocked with stun battons or spat on or used as blood bags etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

I don't think you're writing a bad story at all, it's just not for me any more. Good luck with it, you have a big following, my dropping out isn't going to be noticed.
 
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DigDug69

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I know Runey, but it's just getting to me, i've watched elves get shat on by every element of society so many times now i don't want to see it any more, not narratively or on a meta level sitting in my bedroom at my computer. I'm not enjoying myself any more. Again, you make your game the way you want to, i'm not remotely suggesting otherwise, but i'm bowing out. It's just too bleak, i need to have lighter, happier stories filling my head up these days, not more images of defenseless elves getting shocked with stun battons or spat on or used as blood bags etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

I don't think you're writing a bad story at all, it's just not for me any more. Good luck with it, you have a big following, my dropping out isn't going to be noticed.
Come back when the story is done. Then you can see the elves take their revenge and shat on some oppressors for a change.
Although, since scat is not one of the genres mentioned, you won't actually get to see it, but you will know that it is happening, somewhere.
 
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I still find it funny that any AI always seems to have problems with drawing hands, and there could be made some comparisons with people that just started drawing.

So I always look for hands when I see AI images and I am not disappointed;

Android looks like she got 6 fingers




And Marias nails are looking funny







TLDR; Human or AI, drawing hands is hard.
Very true. With a little more effort this can be done better, but yeah hands are difficult.
 

TheDevian

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I still find it funny that any AI always seems to have problems with drawing hands, and there could be made some comparisons with people that just started drawing.

So I always look for hands when I see AI images and I am not disappointed;

Android looks like she got 6 fingers




And Marias nails are looking funny







TLDR; Human or AI, drawing hands is hard.
Yeah, I used to be able to draw a hand when that was all I was doing, but putting one on a person is another story.

That said, I do wish people would stop with this AI obsession, the art is just ...gross, and way too 'samey'. Even if you ignore the hands and other things it can't do, it's just wrong. Like, look at the lips (on the ones that have them), they were mostly the same, and only looked decent on a couple of them.
Don't get me wrong, it has its uses, but the marked it already over-saturated with it, and people are losing their jobs over it.

I can't say I would want to play a game that uses it for the art, the more I see of it, the less I like it.
 

TigerWolfe

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Yeah, I used to be able to draw a hand when that was all I was doing, but putting one on a person is another story.

That said, I do wish people would stop with this AI obsession, the art is just ...gross, and way too 'samey'. Even if you ignore the hands and other things it can't do, it's just wrong. Like, look at the lips (on the ones that have them), they were mostly the same, and only looked decent on a couple of them.
Don't get me wrong, it has its uses, but the marked it already over-saturated with it, and people are losing their jobs over it.

I can't say I would want to play a game that uses it for the art, the more I see of it, the less I like it.
Capitalism is gonna capitalize and any advancement that makes something more accessible to the masses, will be used to save the board a few bucks at the expense of the final product and people in general.

AI art is awesome if you can't art or don't know an artist or can't afford one yet, and have a story you want to tell.

The McCorporateGameAndArt studios of the world will be sure to make us all hate it though as they replace all their amazing in house talent for pennies on the dollar.
 

TheDevian

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Capitalism is gonna capitalize and any advancement that makes something more accessible to the masses, will be used to save the board a few bucks at the expense of the final product and people in general.

AI art is awesome if you can't art or don't know an artist or can't afford one yet, and have a story you want to tell.

The McCorporateGameAndArt studios of the world will be sure to make us all hate it though as they replace all their amazing in house talent for pennies on the dollar.
No, it's broken and inconsistent, and anyone can use the Illusion games or whatever to make art, it just takes some practice.
 
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You have to consider that I took the images from the game files. These were 400x400 low res icon images.
I upscaled these and then ran some standart stable diffusion converter over them.
I also converted these as a batch. So no afterward editing.
Just used "smile" and "looking at viewer" promts.

It all takes just a couple of minutes.
For that little effort, the results are great, imho.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to show of or something. I just find it fascinating how good it works and how fast this can be done, with this little effort.
Ya … I figured it was a first pass down and dirty proof of feasibility exercise.

I said 60%-80% were improved.
Which is a huge amount.

Sorry if you took the positive feedback as a neg.
I figured that with my upvotes and the improved comment I could share where I saw that the AI “improvement” … wasn’t.

Specifically if Ash looses her sometimes crazy eyes. (Which was DigDug69’s comment)
Also the AI seem to add bunny teeth when it sees bunny ears.
And OFC the hands but whatever.
Consistency could also be an issue … don’t want to have 12 “different” versions of a character.

It raises lots of great possibilities… and it will only get better with time.

I tend to try and identify the broken parts to correct or to maintain consistency on a project.
 
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TigerWolfe

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No, it's broken and inconsistent, and anyone can use the Illusion games or whatever to make art, it just takes some practice.
Tech has to be used to get better. And if koikatsu isn't the look you're going for, it's not gonna work... Also not everyone has infinite time to learn things.

You don't have to like ai art, but it does expand the field of creators (I see this as a good).
It will also be abused by the same people who've abused every productivity advancement we've had since the industrial revolution (I see this as a bad).
 
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TheDevian

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Tech has to be used to get better. And if koikatsu isn't the look you're going for, it's not gonna work... Also not everyone has infinite time to learn things.

You don't have to like ai art, but it does expand the field of creators (I see this as a good).
It will also be abused by the same people who've abused every productivity advancement we've had since the industrial revolution (I see this as a bad).
Koikatu, HS, HS2, Daz, Blender, etc... Any look you want, you can get with minimal to some skill.

No, it makes people with no skills, think that they can do the same things that people who have trained their whole lives can do. All of whom will be eliminated because some pc can do their job, and who cares if it is accurate (it doesn't just fuck up fingers, it also fucks up math, facts, grammar, and anything else).

But we are way the fuck off topic for this thread, so here's Para-Para Lin.
Para-Para-Lin (2).gif
 

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Koikatu, HS, HS2, Daz, Blender, etc... Any look you want, you can get with minimal to some skill.

No, it makes people with no skills, think that they can do the same things that people who have trained their whole lives can do. All of whom will be eliminated because some pc can do their job, and who cares if it is accurate (it doesn't just fuck up fingers, it also fucks up math, facts, grammar, and anything else).

But we are way the fuck off topic for this thread, so here's Para-Para Lin.
Lin needs a hula hoop.
 
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