VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.2] [Runey]

[c3p0]

(There's NO WAY you can compress down to 5 GB a 12 GB file that WAS ALREADY COMPRESSED!!! So there's NO WAY that that 12 GB zip file was contained all in the first rar file: it was contained in all the three RAR files combined together.)

First the problem was already solved, see The Halo's latest post. Second although mostly technically true, this statement isn't true in general.

All depend on the used compression algorithm and the data itself. Most time you won't end with that and only get sightly better compression, but I wouldn't general write that you can't compress a already compressed file to 41% of it size.

 

[DigDug69]

First the problem was already solved, see The Halo's latest post. Second although mostly technically true, this statement isn't true in general.

All depend on the used compression algorithm and the data itself. Most time you won't end with that and only get sightly better compression, but I wouldn't general write that you can't compress a already compressed file to 41% of it size.

True, some files are able to be compressed more than others, but as we all know, extreme compression can be bad.
A funny example, mixed with a warning.
A long time ago, in an internet world that is slowly fading away, (warez forums) you could find super compressed downloads that contained the installer iso image of Windows XP that were only 14.5 mb's in size.
The actual pre compression size was about 4gb's.
The program used was KGB Archiver. <<<< EVIL PROGRAM, DO NOT USE!!!!!!!!!!!
After compression, you, the one compressing it could extract the file to test it and it would work fine, and you could install windows with the ISO you had compressed and then extracted, after burning it to disc.
Hint: The data for the compressed file was stored in your system when you compressed it, and that data was used during the test extraction.
BUT!!!!
Anyone who downloaded that compressed file got nothing but an ISO file that was full of dummy files that had file names, but contained no code at all when you examined the files with notepad ++.
The code was compressed right out of the files.
Needless to say, a lot of people got really pissed, especially when people kept sharing those crappy downloads on other sites.

 

[Deleted member 6236999]

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, most games are compressed in size by reducing the quality of the renders and animations or the bitrate of videos.

EDIT: I think this is the most used, Cruncher

 

[DigDug69]

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, most games are compressed in size by reducing the quality of the renders and animations or the bitrate of videos.

True, but we were talking about the compression of zip, rar and other such files.

 

[ZenoMod]

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, most games are compressed in size by reducing the quality of the renders and animations or the bitrate of videos.

EDIT: I think this is the most used, Cruncher

Yes, but that is by definition lossy compression. It can be applied to images and other media, but obviously not to code, nor to data structure (like a zip file)...

...BECAUSE what you get when you decompress it is not an exact copy of the original.

On this forum are marked as "compressed" all those archives which once extracted give something that is not the exact byte per byte copy of what you would have had if you extracted the zip published by the author.

If you want to make a "[LOSSLY] compressed" version of Harem Hotel you have to first unzip the official zip, crunch the images and other media, loosing quality, then create another zip that once unzipped will obviously give your smallest version of the game with lower image quality and not the version given by decompressing the original zip by Runey.

The split version is not marked as "compressed" because it doesn't contains lower quality media due to LOSSY compression.

It is indeed compressed, because they give Runey's zip as input to WinRAR which is a compression algorithm, but it is a LOSSLESS compression: what you get after extraction is an EXACT copy of what you have compressed, so it's not marked as "compressed" on this forum.

They simply compressed Runey's zip with WinRAR not to reduce it's size, but only to use the feature "divide in multiple archives of max 5 GB each".

The purpose is not to save transmission bandwidth, but to decrease the probability of connection timeout during download, because many users with poor internet connection (including me) experienced this problem even with JDownloader: 60% or so of download that can't be resumed and the only option was restarting from zero.

So once you extract the RAR you get exactly the same zip as Runey published.

 

[ZenoMod]

First the problem was already solved, see The Halo's latest post. Second although mostly technically true, this statement isn't true in general.

All depend on the used compression algorithm and the data itself. Most time you won't end with that and only get sightly better compression, but I wouldn't general write that you can't compress a already compressed file to 41% of it size.

If the problem was already solved, my bad, sorry I missed it.

About the compression, see my previous reply.

We were talking about RAR-ring a ZIP, so of course about LOSSLESS compression.
You can't compress a zip "loosing quality" change even a single bit and it will not be a valid zip anymore, and you won't be able to unzip it.

 

[TheDevian]

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Gonna take a look at your save in a moment.

EDIT: fixed. It was that one new var that I talked about in this other post.

Thank you kindly!

 

[Agile7961]

Gonna take a look at your save in a moment.

EDIT: fixed. It was that one new var that I talked about in this other post.

Thank you for this, was able to fix mine as well.

 

[plain77]

Wow, I have to say when I started this game I read no reviews, comments, or walkthroughs so I assumed this was just going to your average harem game.

I have never been glad to be more wrong, the depth you taken with the games story is fantastic, your characters are really well fleshed out, and I really enjoy the world building.

The conflict between the elves and the human is so good! I normally hate the tired humanity bad trope but you've done a great job with how ignorant and vile the people of Syl'anar are. I can't wait for more.

 

[TheDevian]

I love this game, the story is nothing worthy of a Pulitzer, but it's great for a porn game and the girls are awesome...



...but holy fucking shit do I hate the MC's character model :|. He looks so weird and creepy and lanky. He looks like Review Brah with more modern clothes. I wish we never had to see his model, would've been incredible if it was fully pov. But that's just my opinion.

That is a limitation of HS, there is almost no content for males, and some of that is broken. Runey tried to make it generic as possible, to allow more people to relate, it's why we never see his face.

 

[danb35]

I seem to be running into the same problem with Maria being stuck at level 30. I have Nia and she's maxed out; I've even gotten to some dialog from Maria referring to events in and after level 31, but the event doesn't happen. Is it possible for me to change the variable in question myself? If not, where would I find a game save on a Mac?

 

[shadowtempered]

I seem to be running into the same problem with Maria being stuck at level 30. I have Nia and she's maxed out; I've even gotten to some dialog from Maria referring to events in and after level 31, but the event doesn't happen. Is it possible for me to change the variable in question myself? If not, where would I find a game save on a Mac?

Post or edit your save in an editor.
Per torresm 's post:

if mar_friendship == 30 and maria.no_delay and time_of_day == 2 and not nia_alert00:
if not hasniasupplies:
c "I should get closer to Nia."
$nia_alert00 = True
jump yourroom
else:
call clearscreen
jump mar_doctest

Change the nia_alert00 from True to False

 

[danb35]

Post or edit your save in an editor.

Any idea where I'd find that on a Mac? I saw some references up-thread to where it is on Windows, but I'm having trouble translating that to where I'd need to look on my Mac.

 

[ZenoMod]

Any idea where I'd find that on a Mac? I saw some references up-thread to where it is on Windows, but I'm having trouble translating that to where I'd need to look on my Mac.

You could open the Console (shift+O) and then just type
nia_alert00 = False
and hit return

If the Console is disabled, you should be able to enable it with UnRen for MacOS, but since I don't have a Mac I've never tested it.

 

[shadowtempered]

Any idea where I'd find that on a Mac? I saw some references up-thread to where it is on Windows, but I'm having trouble translating that to where I'd need to look on my Mac.

If ZenoMod 's option doesn't work -- I don't know how mac's file structure is setup for the game, but on PC the saves are stored inside the game -> saves folder. I'd see if the file hierarchy is similar and start there.

 

[danb35]

You could open the Console (shift+O)

Thanks--I'd been looking for how to do that, but this is the first place I've seen the key command (and the reference to UnRen, which I did need). That worked.

 

[torresm]

btw I just finished coding a small patch for this issue, as a fun exercise. Next person that pops up with the same problem, I'll try employing it and see how it goes.

 

[shadowtempered]

btw I just finished coding a small patch for this issue, as a fun exercise. Next person that pops up with the same problem, I'll try employing it and see how it goes.

At this point I'm wondering if we should have the front page edited to include the shift-o fix or see if Runey has another patch on the way before the next major update. We've seen how the broken saves from mods brings the repeated questions, this is only going to keep increasing. At least you spotted the issue.

 

[TheDevian]

At this point I'm wondering if we should have the front page edited to include the shift-o fix or see if Runey has another patch on the way before the next major update. We've seen how the broken saves from mods brings the repeated questions, this is only going to keep increasing. At least you spotted the issue.

I am sure he will, he had to step away for a while, but when he gets back, I am sure he will be on it.