Hanny2000

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Translation: "I made a lot of money with this porn game and don't want to think of myself as a pornographer, so now I think the best thing to do is to take the safest imaginable political positions and beat my readers over the head with them."
 
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Lolicon Kami

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I know it's hard for you to imagine that there are other things in life than porn. Me, I love writing stories. Stay mad, stay sad.
The plot is about ending slavery as much as it is about ending poverty, monopolies, corruption, and any other type of oppression. There are 8 main stories which all involve fighting for freedom. Slice of life stuff happens too.

The amazing thing with Runey is that s/he's so talented about writing on social justice (SJ) issues while retaining an excellent standard of craft, lewd sex scenes, and humor at appropriate times.

I feel like most entertainment that deals with SJ nowadays are either woke bullshit wannabe directors (cough, J. J. Abrams, cough) who use SJ as a shield to defend/sell the soulless crap they sell or full-on realistic/documentary type movies that are god-like in quality but super fucking depressing and something to watch to educate yourself, not unwind or god forbid jack off (ex Spielberg's Schindler's List).

In short, Runey's HH is basically the Black Panther of lewd games. God bless you, hope you've been able to take time off for yourself (saw your post on Patron).
 

TigerWolfe

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I know it's hard for you to imagine that there are other things in life than porn. Me, I love writing stories. Stay mad, stay sad.
I think it's funny that they think anything that could he interpreted as anticapitalist, is the "safest imaginable political position", in our very very capitalist world. Serious uneducated and big mad energy simultaneously.
 

DigDug69

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I can not wait until Friday, then I can afford the newest update! I have to have me some Harem Hotel.
Version 18.0 ALPHA, which is available on patreon, is a test version.
If you get it now, you can expect a strong possibility of glitches, and it is strongly advised that you not make any saves with it.
Saves made with ALPHA releases have been known to cause crashes in full releases when they come out.
They are, USE AT OWN RISK versions.

If you do get it, make sure that you report back any issues here, so that Runey can address them.
 
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ILCjr

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Version 18.0 ALPHA, which is available on patreon, is a test version.
If you get it now, you can expect a strong possibility of glitches, and it is strongly advised that you not make any saves with it.
Saves made with ALPHA releases have been known to cause crashes in full releases when they come out.
They are, USE AT OWN RISK versions.

If you do get it, make sure that you report back any issues here, so that Runey can address them.
I know, I have gotten it before, it is more so when the full version comes out, I can grab it. Right now can only really afford to grab updates, one day I will get back to full support.
 

ILCjr

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Keep in mind that it is just the Alpha, not the full update. Friday is the best time to pledge though because it is the beginning of the month.
Always do, I am just only able to pay for updates, one day I will be back to supporting full time.
 

Quetzzz

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This discussion about social justice is confusing to me. If you consider that Runey is writing with US politics in mind, then the MC striving for freedom, is actually a conservative position. Usually, the people who strive for equality (which MC isn't doing directly), look towards the government to encapsulate that equality into law, and do oversight.

Harem Hotel is a mix of both, and I think It's very even-handed with its political/philosophical messaging. There is social justice, in the sense that Elves are facing injustice. And while the MC cares about that, he cares about his 'charges' first. This is also a much more dystopian situation, where big government is a reality, as is government surveillance. This is the result of humans wanting to be safe instead of free, the opposite of the conservative position. So, very even-handed if you ask me.
 
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Shadesishere

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Keep in mind that it is just the Alpha, not the full update. Friday is the best time to pledge though because it is the beginning of the month.
dang, just realised that the year sub I had ran out... will re-sub at end of month (I like to time payments for end/start of month, makes it easy to keep track of everything)
 
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DigDug69

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This discussion about social justice is confusing to me. If you consider that Runey is writing with US politics in mind, then the MC striving for freedom, is actually a conservative position. Usually, the people who strive for equality (which MC isn't doing directly), look towards the government to encapsulate that equality into law, and do oversight.

Harem Hotel is a mix of both, and I think It's very even-handed with its political/philosophical messaging. There is social justice, in the sense that Elves are facing injustice. And while the MC cares about that, he cares about his 'charges' first. This is also a much more dystopian situation, where big government is a reality, as is government surveillance. This is the result of humans wanting to be safe instead of free, the opposite of the conservative position. So, very even-handed if you ask me.
The mods tend to get angry when politics are discussed here, but I see the social justice comments as being nothing more than trolling...
People who will post their beliefs, or attack others for their own beliefs.
No matter what the topic is, they will try to twist it to their own needs.

The topic currently under discussion, could be about Lin's fine ass and its effects on the economy, but they will pop in and start screaming about social justice.
 

Hentai1987

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Please don't confuse people into thinking that this is a hidden NTR game. It might upset half the community if not more.
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On the other hand, it will give a lot of funny responses though.
NTR at it's finest people.
honestly, the entire story of Harem Hotel would have worked even if you removed the male protagonist and replace it with Maria. If would not even be necessary to change a lot of her backstory.
 

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I think it's funny that they think anything that could he interpreted as anticapitalist, is the "safest imaginable political position", in our very very capitalist world. Serious uneducated and big mad energy simultaneously.
capitalism recuperates and sells any critique of it. look at Che Guevara t-shirts or that squid game reality show.

hey runey have one of the characters read mark fisher to us
 
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hochlander

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I kind of see where some people are coming from. When I first found this game there was a lot less social justice and more action. In my opinion it feels like a lot of what originally attracted me to this game has been left in the dust. I wish there was more focus on interpersonal relationships than political/ideological ones. That being said, Runey is still the most trustworthy dev I've seen on this site and the spider web of a story they have crafted so far is actually interesting. And to be fair, as freeloaders, we really don't have a right to complain. It is what it is. I plan on cancelling some subs soon and Runey is on the top of my list to pick up.
 

TigerWolfe

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I wish there was more focus on interpersonal relationships than political/ideological ones
Peoples' political and ideological beliefs shape their interpersonal interactions... This is only a complaint because the views being espoused don't mirror your own.
 

DigDug69

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Peoples' political and ideological beliefs shape their interpersonal interactions... This is only a complaint because the views being espoused don't mirror your own.
Which, is why F95 does not allow people to bring politics into their comments here.
People will disagree with them, and fighting will happen.
No politics allowed, makes it easy for them to deal with, without taking sides.
 

Runey

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This discussion about social justice is confusing to me. If you consider that Runey is writing with US politics in mind, then the MC striving for freedom, is actually a conservative position. Usually, the people who strive for equality (which MC isn't doing directly), look towards the government to encapsulate that equality into law, and do oversight.
Social Justice is not an American concept, unless your knowledge of history only goes back to 2016. Your usage of conservativism and everything makes me think this is the case. Most revolutionaries who fought for our freedom are "Liberals" in the global sense (not the modern American-centric sense). Liberal meaning Free. This is where the statue of "Liberty" comes from. AKA, the statue of freedom. To conserve in this case would mean to bring back the monarchies. There is so much more to history than the last 10 years of the US.

The reason we have freedom is in large due to revolutionary protestors overthrowing their governments, mostly violently. Such as the French Revolution, Boston Tea Party, and many many more. None of them were trying to conserve the past or use legal means to gain their freedom, because that fails. People in power don't give up their power from being asked nicely.

The history of liberation and the fight for freedom for all people is what I take inspiration from, going back hundreds of years and all around the world.

Harem Hotel is a mix of both, and I think It's very even-handed with its political/philosophical messaging. There is social justice, in the sense that Elves are facing injustice. And while the MC cares about that, he cares about his 'charges' first. This is also a much more dystopian situation, where big government is a reality, as is government surveillance. This is the result of humans wanting to be safe instead of free, the opposite of the conservative position. So, very even-handed if you ask me.
Every character faces social injustice, among many other types of injustice, such as political and economic injustice. I wrote MC in a way where he cares about the world through his favorite people because caring about the world first and people second is unfortunately not really how humans work. We're more selfish. Most want to live for their loved ones, you know?

No, they do not want to be "safe", they want to be "free". They are putting themselves in grave danger for freedom.

capitalism recuperates and sells any critique of it. look at Che Guevara t-shirts or that squid game reality show.

hey runey have one of the characters read mark fisher to us
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Harem Hotel is free and always will be if I can keep it that way. I think all books should be. There are an infinite amount of copies of HH in the digital era. Donations put food on my table, clothes on my back, and well much more. I'm very lucky to not simply survive, but thrive with my work.

I kind of see where some people are coming from. When I first found this game there was a lot less social justice and more action. In my opinion it feels like a lot of what originally attracted me to this game has been left in the dust. I wish there was more focus on interpersonal relationships than political/ideological ones. That being said, Runey is still the most trustworthy dev I've seen on this site and the spider web of a story they have crafted so far is actually interesting. And to be fair, as freeloaders, we really don't have a right to complain. It is what it is. I plan on cancelling some subs soon and Runey is on the top of my list to pick up.
90% of each character's story focuses on personal relationships between characters where politics and ideology are in the background. It's all about the characters, first and foremost. If it was not about the characters, I would just cut out the slice of life, character growth, relationship development, drama, sex, outfits, etc etc and cut straight to random people you don't know whipping out the guillotines. But what fun is that? A reader needs to be invested to continue reading, and HH isn't a history lesson or a documentary. Within a story, you cannot jump to the boss fight and retain the same emotional impact and catharsis you would have if you connected to the main characters and want to see them thrive, and the enemy vanquished.

Since most people are probably aware of One Piece, and our stories share similar themes, try considering what that story is about and what it focuses on. The characters are the focus, each one of them has a different political theme (being a slave, being from royalty, being dirt poor, oppressed by the world government, etc) and each one of them has a dream they want to achieve that is prevented by outside forces, and each battle is a battle of ideology in the background. But we fall in love with the characters and their growth first and foremost. How they connect, how they disagree and fight each other, how they grow, how they love. This is a very similar formula to HH.
 
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