VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.2] [Runey]

[shadowtempered]

18.1 is out. Please update

That's the beta. That is almost never posted here because it's for testing.

 

[inthedepths]

That's the beta. That is almost never posted here because it's for testing.

Oh sorry. I’ll wait patiently then

 

[Strike-10]

Oh sorry. I’ll wait patiently then

Ya it sucks but in a week or two ish we will get the next version minus any problems that are found from this beta.

Your response about waiting patiently shows an attitude that’s great to see!

 

[Deleted member 289409]

Content drip feed is real, is the author working on other projects besides this one?

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[Perniciousducks]

That's the beta. That is almost never posted here because it's for testing.

it’s not even really the main reason people don’t post it. The Alpha and Beta builds only have some of the content (and that usually needs some fixes and theoretically could break saves), the version that has everything basically comes out publicly for everyone and gets posted here right away.

 

[c3p0]

18.1 is out. Please update

There, now better?

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And of course, as the others have written, this is the beta. Rune himself made post here with links and all, when the final version, for this case 0.18, is out. Rune's game is free for all and without time delay between paying supporter and public. Alphas, betas and pre releases are different, but because they are alphas, betas or pre releases a lot of us don't care or paying Runey some bucks or doing both.

 

[Segnbora]

The base game already does this

It does nothing of the sort, save for the basic leveling, but we've argued about this in the past and we'll never agree, so let's let it fade. I still love the game.

 

[Runey]

It does nothing of the sort, save for the basic leveling, but we've argued about this in the past and we'll never agree, so let's let it fade. I still love the game.

The game does in fact tell you what you need to do to advance every event. If you've noticed any bugs, please report them. If you just need to wait, there are no requirements other than time.

I don't need to convince you of anything if you don't want to accept it, but I won't let misinformation about my game spread.

 

[MrHatIsHere]

I just completed the last quest for Lin, where Lin started a protest for ending slavery that resulted in Cornwall taking over (seemingly the country) using an all-powerful AI that was apparently developed in secret. It seemed to have twists and turns for the sake of twists and turns, getting more and more ridiculous, with such drastic up-and-down shifts in tone that I ended up just being annoyed at the whole thing.

Runey seems to be constantly shifting about what the story is supposed to be, between a fun slice-of-life harem story, or a less-violent Shadowrun-like dystopia about slavery and genocide.

 

[DigDug69]

I just completed the last quest for Lin, where Lin started a protest for ending slavery that resulted in Cornwall taking over (seemingly the country) using an all-powerful AI that was apparently developed in secret. It seemed to have twists and turns for the sake of twists and turns, getting more and more ridiculous, with such drastic up-and-down shifts in tone that I ended up just being annoyed at the whole thing.

Runey seems to be constantly shifting about what the story is supposed to be, between a fun slice-of-life harem story, or a less-violent Shadowrun-like dystopia about slavery and genocide.

That is weird that you see it that way, because I have been playing this from the beginning, and I could see from very early on that this was all coming...
From the very beginning they spoke of the corrupt government and the cruelty of slavery to both the elves and the androids.
So, obviously going after making changes in the government, and dealing with the issue of slavery, were both planned for the future...
So, it boggles my mind that anyone could not see where Harem Hotel was heading for a story line from the very beginning...

I would say that the story has never waivered at all from the course that it was set on, from the very beginning.
And that it is in no way like the visual novels where the dev's cave in to the demands of players, which is good.
Because those games rarely ever get finished, because the dev's caved in so many times, that any plans that they had for the game, became impossible to achieve, and because of that the stories tend to get confusing.
Runey has been very good at staying with his vision, and not caving in to people who whine that they want things done their way...
And for that Runey, I say, THANK YOU!

 

[Smarmint]

I just completed the last quest for Lin, where Lin started a protest for ending slavery that resulted in Cornwall taking over (seemingly the country) using an all-powerful AI that was apparently developed in secret. It seemed to have twists and turns for the sake of twists and turns, getting more and more ridiculous, with such drastic up-and-down shifts in tone that I ended up just being annoyed at the whole thing.

Runey seems to be constantly shifting about what the story is supposed to be, between a fun slice-of-life harem story, or a less-violent Shadowrun-like dystopia about slavery and genocide.

You weren't clued in from the beginning when told that all Elves were slaves? The whole game has been building up to this point.

 

[Shark_inA-chiar]

Content drip feed is real, is the author working on other projects besides this one?

it looks like your new so i am not going to be a dick like the others any question you ask you can just 99% look back a few pages and you will find the answer or try the search in the top right

 

[MrHatIsHere]

My issue is with the tonal whiplash, where, as I stated, there are "twists and turns for the sake of twists and turns, getting more and more ridiculous, with such drastic up-and-down shifts in tone that I ended up just being annoyed at the whole thing." For example, I was actually drawn into Lin's protest, and it seemed to culminate in Android hacking the robots and signs, until ARCHON appears as a blatant Diabolus ex Machina that even the characters seem to admit comes right the f*** out of nowhere and results in a plot twist that is confusing as h***.

 

[DigDug69]

My issue is with the tonal whiplash, where, as I stated, there are "twists and turns for the sake of twists and turns, getting more and more ridiculous, with such drastic up-and-down shifts in tone that I ended up just being annoyed at the whole thing." For example, I was actually drawn into Lin's protest, and it seemed to culminate in Android hacking the robots and signs, until ARCHON appears as a blatant Diabolus ex Machina in a twist that even the characters seem to admit comes right the f*** out of nowhere and is confusing as h***.

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[shadowtempered]

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I understood the narrative and explanation, but I kind of agree with his statement. Honestly, I feel there should have been hints or something, perhaps in a different context than how it was presented, so when it did arrive we would be more like "but wait, wasn't that X!" vs. the "SURPRISE!" we got.

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If you don't mind the prolly poor analogy to Deus Ex (the original):

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Course, that's just my feel.

 

[Runey]

I understood the narrative and explanation, but I kind of agree with his statement. Honestly, I feel there should have been hints or something, perhaps in a different context than how it was presented, so when it did arrive we would be more like "but wait, wasn't that X!" vs. the "SURPRISE!" we got.

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If you don't mind the prolly poor analogy to Deus Ex (the original):

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Course, that's just my feel.

Archon is a top secret government project that was not supposed to be released this early. There wasn't supposed to be any hints it existed because it has never been tested before, it was just suddenly released like a kraken. Being normal people, you should have no idea about this, but check Android's 12th event

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[shadowtempered]

Archon is a top secret government project that was not supposed to be released this early. There wasn't supposed to be any hints it existed because it has never been tested before, it was just suddenly released like a kraken. Being normal people, you should have no idea about this, but check Android's 12th event

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I understood it was under wraps, but that complete jump-scare introduction just isn't my jam. I tried to provide examples to subtle introduction that I did like, but not trying to say those are better - just a different way is all.

I didn't catch that reference, but it's been so long that while I do restart with each version I don't 100% slow read the events anymore so I miss some of that nuance. So kudos to that.

 

[Runey]

This just isn't true. Nothing about the early game really indicated that the elf stuff was going to be an overarching theme. The Lin plot was just one of a few different porn troupes sex slave, nerdy computer girl, yandere, slutty school girl. The early game really reads like the elf slave stuff is just the thinnest way they can justify the fetish and they really only start to build on it much later. When Android was introduced it was a one off thing created by the grandfather with no further indication that there is a broader world of robots. The android stuff gets built upon and eventually it they go back and change Android to default to Pixel because it makes no sense in the context the story evolves into. Its pretty clear the author didn't really start with a grand vision and the story just kinda progressed the way that serialized content tends to. I'm guessing the reason it becomes such a focal point is because the author is so bad at writing believable characters and believable character archs that its simpler to wiki dump a bunch of lore stuff than do that.

The insults are totally unnecessary. We get it, you don't want story, you didn't pay attention to it at all, you ignored all of the foreshadowing because you wanted my game to be something it's not. Go play another one. There is no point in arguing on a forum of a game you don't like, it's a waste of your time.

 

[shadowtempered]

This just isn't true. Nothing about the early game really indicated that the elf stuff was going to be an overarching theme. The Lin plot was just one of a few different porn troupes sex slave, nerdy computer girl, yandere, slutty school girl.

Wut

You discover Lin would like to improve things for the Elves in one of her earliest events when she meets the Queen. Is it day 1? No, but who starts a story that way. Even if the story wasn't designed from the get go for that, it did lead up to it early on.

The early game really reads like the elf slave stuff is just the thinnest way they can justify the fetish and they really only start to build on it much later. When Android was introduced it was a one off thing created by the grandfather with no further indication that there is a broader world of robots.

The grandfather purchased Android, he didn't build her from scratch. She was a pet project to fix up. Why would you assume she was a 1-off product?

There are two types of individuals: 1) those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. 2)

The android stuff gets built upon and eventually it they go back and change Android to default to Pixel because it makes no sense in the context the story evolves into.

What?

Its pretty clear the author didn't really start with a grand vision and the story just kinda progressed the way that serialized content tends to. I'm guessing the reason it becomes such a focal point is because the author is so bad at writing believable characters and believable character archs that its simpler to wiki dump a bunch of lore stuff than do that.

Ah yes, the tried and true way to have a discussion about something: insult the creator.

 

[henk1]

... check Android's 12th event

Ahh so nice to hear that this was indeed foreshadowing, it was the first thing I thought about when it appeared on the screen.


Thanks for your hard work devman, I'm looking forward to the next release