DigDug69

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OK, this is exactly what I'm talking about, any time there is any level of criticism, someone immediately flips out. You get hyper defensive in a way that's frankly weird.
My post was not a criticism of your post in any way.
I was simply pointing out for anyone that might read it that not all Dev's have the same work conditions or time to spend on game creation.

Your post simply made me think that such a post might be needed for anyone that is newer to F95 and unaware that the vast majority of games found here are created not by companies.
But by people who have real lives to live, with different amounts of time to spend on game creation...

The only thing that it had to do with your post, was that it made me think of it, and nothing more.
Which is the only reason that I hit reply to your comment.
 
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Well, I think that the current topic was discussed fully and into depth and from all points of view, so there is nothing that I could add to it.

Anyway, Christmas is coming soon.

Do you like the music, that A11-Y makes?

Did you like their songs like "Why am I not allowed to play in the dungeon?", "Mommy told me to go play with Aunt Ashley and then she locked herself in our room with Mister MC and now they are making weird sounds and I wonder what they are doing", "I wish that I could taste what Miss Lin is cooking" or their latest song, the one that won the Rune-Emmy-y Award, "I just found out how elves and androids are treated outside the hotel and now I need a therapy"?

If yes, then you should go to RuneyTunes or Runey-Mart Music and buy their album "Dancing under the Christmas Tree and other Christmas songs".

It is a great album with a lots of hit songs, like the titular "Dancing under the Christmas Tree", "Do android kids get presents from Santa?", "This Christmas everybody will get headpats" (I think that TheDevian will like this one), "Is Die Hard a Christmas Movie?", or "It's Christmas time so don't be mean to Mister Runey and don't ask for update or Aunt Ashley will stab you".

I am pretty sure that you all will like it. But if you will not like it, please, pretend that you like it, A11-Y worked really hard on creating all these songs on this album.

(also, please, don't tell me that this album cover looks terrible, there is no need to tell me that I suck at editing photos, I already know that I am an idiot with zero talent.)


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DigDug69

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Well, I think that the current topic was discussed fully and into depth and from all points of view, so there is nothing that I could add to it.

Anyway, Christmas is coming soon.

Do you like the music, that A11-Y makes?

Did you liked their songs like "Why am I not allowed to play in the dungeon?", "Mommy told me to go play with Aunt Ashley and then she locked herself in our room with Mister MC and now they are making weird sounds and I wonder what they are doing", "I wish that I could taste what Miss Lin is cooking" or their latest song, the one that won the Rune-Emmy-y Award, "I just found out how elves and androids are treated outside the hotel and now I need a therapy"?

If yes, then you should go to RuneyTunes or Runey-Mart Music and buy their album "Dancing under the Christmas Tree and other Christmas songs".

It is a great album with a lots of hit songs, like the titular "Dancing under the Christmas Tree", "Do android kids get presents from Santa?", "This Christmas everybody will get headpats" (I think that TheDevian will like this one), "Is Die Hard a Christmas Movie?", or "It's Christmas time so don't be mean to Mister Runey and don't ask for update or Aunt Ashley will stab you".

I am pretty sure that you all will like it. But if you will not like it, please, pretend that you like it, A11-Y worked really hard on creating all these songs on this album.

(also, please, don't tell me that this album cover looks terrible, there is no need to tell me that I suck at editing photos, I already know that I am an idiot with zero talent.)


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You left out Ally's other new song.
I saw Mommy blowing Santa Claus
Underneath the mistletoe last night
She didn't see me creep
Down the stairs to have a peep
She thought that I was tucked up
In my bedroom, fast asleep
Then I saw Mommy rimming Santa Claus
Underneath his balls so very deep
Oh, what a laugh it would have been
If daddy had only seen
Mommy blowing Santa Claus last night
 
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You left out Ally's other new song.
I saw Mommy blowing Santa Claus
Underneath the mistletoe last night
She didn't see me creep
Down the stairs to have a peep
She thought that I was tucked up
In my bedroom, fast asleep
Then I saw Mommy rimming Santa Claus
Underneath his balls so very deep
Oh, what a laugh it would have been
If daddy had only seen
Mommy blowing Santa Claus last night
Yeah, I forgot about that one. But I don't know the lirics correctly, are you sure that it is "daddy"? Isn't it "Mister MC"? I am not really sure.
 
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The reason being that the MC is the one wearing the Santa suit, and since the curling iron is an inanimate object, it would not have been cheating on the MC.
In the same way that Maria has her toys.
OK, anyway, we should come up with answers to A11-Y's questions in case that they will ask any of these questions again.

The questions:

"Why am I not allowed to play in the dungeon?"
"Do android kids get presents from Santa?"
"Is Die Hard a Christmas Movie?"
 

DigDug69

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OK, anyway, we should come up with answers to A11-Y's questions in case that they will ask any of these questions again.

The questions:
"Why am I not allowed to play in the dungeon?": She is still under warranty, and the MC might break her.
"Do android kids get presents from Santa?": Yes, batteries, but Maria will exchange the batteries for cash.
"Is Die Hard a Christmas Movie?": Yes.
 
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"Why am I not allowed to play in the dungeon?": She is still under warranty, and the MC might break her.
I was thinking about saying that she doesn't have the correct body to play in the dungeon and she needs to wait until we will get her a better body, or that she is too young to play in the dungeon and she needs to wait until she gets older, because the dungeon is only for grown-ups.

"Do android kids get presents from Santa?": Yes, batteries, but Maria will exchange the batteries for cash.
I am not sure if A11-Y is powered by batteries or why they would need batteries, so yes, A11-Y is probably selling the batteries from Santa to Maria, but what could she be doing with the cash?
 

Runey

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I've thought of that before, but it tends to make me a little sympathetic. An indie Dev would essentially have to start planning their next game somewhere around the halfway mark of the current one, then start developing it as the current game was being finished, and bank that the support will still be there for the new project, because doing this has turned into their livelihood. That is a rough set of circumstances.

At the same time, it is a bit questionable for some of these to end up being projects that go on for five years after getting significant support. This is kind of the point where that fact that these projects get started with no long term plan (because success is so uncertain) starts causing some issues.
I really wish the subject wouldn't get so heated though.
A project going for longer than 5 years is a sign of success. It's only when a project stops being developed or when a project's development slows down that questions should be raised. We can look at examples such as GTA 6 being developed for 10 years, the whole Harry Potter series 17 years, One Piece for 25+ years. These projects can afford to be developed for so long because they're successful, otherwise they would move on to something different. Considering HH has about as much words as the first 4/7 Harry Potter books combined, I'd say I'm making wonderful progress, and in about 1/4th the time. (4 and a half years). After all, more money, after a certain point, doesn't mean a project gets done faster. Likewise it doesn't mean the Harry Potter sequels will be better than the original, it's just a sign of success or hype.

Harem Hotel is an Odyssey, unlike Harry Potter but similar to One Piece. It has an ending point in mind, or a direction, but it does not have everything between the beginning and end planned. We have story beats we want to hit of course. Another comparison could be Jazz. Jazz music heavily relies on improvisation and goes on as long as the composer wants it to. Being able to play Jazz is a testament to the composers skill because they're able to seamlessly continue playing music for hours if they wanted to while staying on rhythm and maintaining harmony in a live setting.

Unfortunately it's very common for things to get heated on F95, even extremely mundane things.
 
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A project going for longer than 5 years is a sign of success. It's only when a project stops being developed or when a project's development slows down that questions should be raised. We can look at examples such as GTA 6 being developed for 10 years, the whole Harry Potter series 17 years, One Piece for 25+ years. These projects can afford to be developed for so long because they're successful, otherwise they would move on to something different. Considering HH has about as much words as the first 4/7 Harry Potter books combined, I'd say I'm making wonderful progress, and in about 1/4th the time. (4 and a half years). After all, more money, after a certain point, doesn't mean a project gets done faster. Likewise it doesn't mean the Harry Potter sequels will be better than the original, it's just a sign of success or hype.

Harem Hotel is an Odyssey, unlike Harry Potter but similar to One Piece. It has an ending point in mind, or a direction, but it does not have everything between the beginning and end planned. We have story beats we want to hit of course. Another comparison could be Jazz. Jazz music heavily relies on improvisation and goes on as long as the composer wants it to. Being able to play Jazz is a testament to the composers skill because they're able to seamlessly continue playing music for hours if they wanted to while staying on rhythm and maintaining harmony in a live setting.

Unfortunately it's very common for things to get heated on F95, even extremely mundane things.
The hardest part of making anything significant is the tenacity to continue despite self-doubt. Runey, you're making something wonderful and you're doing it the right way. Keep it up, and don't let the assholes or even your biggest supporters sway you. If your vision has taken you to where we are today, that vision is the best possible way to finish it.
 
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