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Well, my understanding of Patreon was not deep. After some review, I do believe that sserobinsse is correct, as in: Patreon is a place for people to sell things.

However, to say that these are transactions is not correct, but neither are donations. The answer is that it depends. The main point is that Patreon is just the hub for people to trade money for "service". And it can actually be used by people seeking donations to fund a project, donations to charity, or to sell services.

Whether it's a legally enforceable transaction depends on whether you're paying a business, organization, or an individual. An individual has no legal obligation to complete the transaction without a contract. It is just an informal agreement between individuals, or at least that's what I assume, and most of the creators here fall under this category.

So, yes, they're right that Patreon is for selling things, but not when it comes to legal liability.

And now, I'm done derailing.
 

Runey

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Well, my understanding of Patreon was not deep. After some review, I do believe that sserobinsse is correct, as in: Patreon is a place for people to sell things.

However, to say that these are transactions is not correct, but neither are donations. The answer is that it depends. The main point is that Patreon is just the hub for people to trade money for "service". And it can actually be used by people seeking donations to fund a project, donations to charity, or to sell services.

Whether it's a legally enforceable transaction depends on whether you're paying a business, organization, or an individual. An individual has no legal obligation to complete the transaction without a contract. It is just an informal agreement between individuals, or at least that's what I assume, and most of the creators here fall under this category.

So, yes, they're right that Patreon is for selling things, but not when it comes to legal liability.

And now, I'm done derailing.
The conversation started with what I was doing with Patreon, not what Patreon says they offer. This isn't a thread about Patreon after all. I do not sell anything on patreon at the moment, but I plan to. Let's get back to topics surrounding Harem Hotel.
 

HBKTheIcon69

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Patreon is pretty shitty, especially Mastercard and whoever else they're forced to bow to in order for anyone to make money. Patreon is pro sex work, but Mastercard is not. But Patreon's administration is abysmal. They send us polls every few months, but I don't know anyone confident enough in Patreon to leave their feedback, it's sad. Like, I've emailed staff at patreon reporting pedophiles making money on their website, but because that content wasn't on their site, they didn't care. Now they certainly would if I took this to Fox News or CNN, but I'm not trying to expose myself either. And besides that, they ruined the site design to make pledging to us the first thing you see, instead of what the creator is even creating.

Look at this! It's horrible. You know nothing about what I'm creating or who I am unless you click that tiny About button
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Yeah that's as well like similar sites that have "subscribe to view" setups anything related to adult/sex/porn content sites are very shady on how the viewing is allowed. Also I did post a comment in regards to precisely on the tags that it was stating actual incest interactions so when and who is going to get that torch passed to?
 
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You're going to have to be a bit more specific on the unlocking part - because she unlocks almost immediately after getting the 2nd floor, which is like... 10-20mins? of gameplay if you focus your money on that. That's nearly the start of the game.
Hmm. I had just finished the clocktower story quest with Ashley, was decently progressed on all characters besides Autumn. Had no progress on the dungeon. The save doesn't have to be perfect, whatever you can share would be appreciated.
 

Runey

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What is the Possible release dates for this month of July?????
I'm waiting for a programmer to finish some requests I made for the garden, in the mean time I am making more story, mainly with Jin. I've doubled her story content.

I am also working with Devian to make more crops for the garden. He has completed strawberries, watermelon, and is now working on raspberries

Myconids will attack your garden, Jin will defend it, and collect shroom juice from their corpses, which you have the option to collect and sell in Old Town. Normal crops can be sold at The Park.

A food drive minigame is also in the works, where you may donate food instead of selling it. Reaching milestones will reward you with tools, fertilizer, and more crops.

A system is being designed to allow Jin to randomly farm massive super crops, which sell for much more. This should happen once Jin is over her addiction and a better farmer.

Later down the line, Jin may create hybrid crops. Botany was huge culturally for the common elves before humans came along, and they actually have the lifespan to see their crops change over decades. But I'm not completely sure these last two things will be developed in v0.18, so consider them plans.

The garden is an expansion to the game bigger than any other addition, it affects almost every part of the game, so making sure it's fun is vital.
 

GamerDaddy

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I'm waiting for a programmer to finish some requests I made for the garden, in the mean time I am making more story, mainly with Jin. I've doubled her story content.

I am also working with Devian to make more crops for the garden. He has completed strawberries, watermelon, and is now working on raspberries

Myconids will attack your garden, Jin will defend it, and collect shroom juice from their corpses, which you have the option to collect and sell in Old Town. Normal crops can be sold at The Park.

A food drive minigame is also in the works, where you may donate food instead of selling it. Reaching milestones will reward you with tools, fertilizer, and more crops.

A system is being designed to allow Jin to randomly farm massive super crops, which sell for much more. This should happen once Jin is over her addiction and a better farmer.

Later down the line, Jin may create hybrid crops. Botany was huge culturally for the common elves before humans came along, and they actually have the lifespan to see their crops change over decades. But I'm not completely sure these last two things will be developed in v0.18, so consider them plans.

The garden is an expansion to the game bigger than any other addition, it affects almost every part of the game, so making sure it's fun is vital.
and most if not all of us have been waiting for the garden since it was teased
 
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I'm waiting for a programmer to finish some requests I made for the garden, in the mean time I am making more story, mainly with Jin. I've doubled her story content.

I am also working with Devian to make more crops for the garden. He has completed strawberries, watermelon, and is now working on raspberries

Myconids will attack your garden, Jin will defend it, and collect shroom juice from their corpses, which you have the option to collect and sell in Old Town. Normal crops can be sold at The Park.

A food drive minigame is also in the works, where you may donate food instead of selling it. Reaching milestones will reward you with tools, fertilizer, and more crops.

A system is being designed to allow Jin to randomly farm massive super crops, which sell for much more. This should happen once Jin is over her addiction and a better farmer.

Later down the line, Jin may create hybrid crops. Botany was huge culturally for the common elves before humans came along, and they actually have the lifespan to see their crops change over decades. But I'm not completely sure these last two things will be developed in v0.18, so consider them plans.

The garden is an expansion to the game bigger than any other addition, it affects almost every part of the game, so making sure it's fun is vital.
hopefully it won't take long. I'm Craving for the updates
 
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Runey

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Ah yes, that's what we're all dying to see... garden content. And a new way to make more money in a game where it's already stupid easy to make a ton of money quickly.

It's cool though, at least we didn't wait over a year for this.

....Oh wait
In fact you waited for over 2 or 3 years for the garden, it's taken a long time to program and plan for. Love to see your dedication though, I didn't think a garden in a porn game could be that serious to someone :eek: I will forward your complaints to the guy that offered to use his spare time to help me so I could focus on story content. Matter of fact I'll also get the Lithuanian translation team on the phone for you.
 

thelastone98

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In fact you waited for over 2 or 3 years for the garden, it's taken a long time to program and plan for. Love to see your dedication though, I didn't think a garden in a porn game could be that serious to someone :eek: I will forward your complaints to the guy that offered to use his spare time to help me so I could focus on story content. Matter of fact I'll also get the Lithuanian translation team on the phone for you.
Runey, let's be honest. The porn part of Harem Hotel is what draws people in, but it's the story, characters, and pretty much everything else that keeps us coming back every time there's an update. At this point, I don't think that Harem Hotel is a porn game, but rather a game with porn in it. None of this is a bad thing, just to be clear. I freaking love the game, and I am patiently (but excitedly) waiting for the next update. Keep making amazing content.
 

Runey

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Runey, let's be honest. The porn part of Harem Hotel is what draws people in, but it's the story, characters, and pretty much everything else that keeps us coming back every time there's an update. At this point, I don't think that Harem Hotel is a porn game, but rather a game with porn in it. None of this is a bad thing, just to be clear. I freaking love the game, and I am patiently (but excitedly) waiting for the next update. Keep making amazing content.
Oh I agree, I refer to it as a porn game only colloquially because that's what most people understand. I've always described HH as an AVN officially, but a strange amount of people get upset about that.
 

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Oh I agree, I refer to it as a porn game only colloquially because that's what most people understand. I've always described HH as an AVN officially, but a strange amount of people get upset about that.
With the garden stuff going live will we need a fresh start?
 
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